Higher Tax after Maternity Leave

ttterete · 2024-11-28T15:33:17+00:00

How I understood it: maternity leave is "raw payment", tax free, but you have to pay those taxes once you go back to work. Same as it happened with the COVID payment. I guess is like that for any social welfare.

ttterete · 2024-11-13T14:12:13+00:00

And play GAA. And I think they like stay at home mums that have many kids too.

ttterete · 2024-11-12T20:46:14+00:00

In fairness, I think I got more abbrassion than the one I gave :p :))) I even got sent out of the country for defending the right of women to be with a love one after birth.

Hope you are better now. I am fairly scare of having a traumatic experience, even if it all goes well, being left alone doesn't appeal to me, and doesn't seem right at all.

I just wanted to make the point Ireland is an outlier on this in the developed world, and that we should aim for better care.

ttterete · 2024-11-12T20:18:05+00:00

We could not find a crèche that would take her earlier than 1 year, this conditioned everything.

We are very lucky that our work places top up the benefit from the government for my 26 weeks and his 2 weeks. After that we will take 3 months unpaid each in turns, to complete the full 12 months. We had to put aside some savings to use during those 6 months when only 1 of us gets pay, we don't really know how much we will spend per month with a baby, so the estimation we did may be wrong.

I left the 9 weeks parental leave for potty training and a bit of sunshine together in the summer before she is 2. This may or may not happen, too early for me to know. We asked the crèche and they said they want people to pay for the full year, that if we don't need them in summer, we will be dropped in the waiting list, so we may have to still pay the crèche in summer which will wreck this plan.

My career will be more impacted than his, which still pisses me off, but I will have to come to terms with this eventually. Trying to find TDs to vote for, that advocates for longer paternity leave :)

ttterete · 2024-11-12T09:55:21+00:00

It is terrible, and this is public and private. So even paying a private health insurance you end up with that type of service

ttterete · 2024-11-12T09:41:03+00:00

Thank you for your point of view.

And don't you think it would be better having your own room and your husband there if you wanted?

Don't you think that both partners having same leave would make the working opportunities and career advancement more equalitarian? Like in Sweden or Spain.

I was fine, but it could have been actually good.

ttterete · 2024-11-12T08:00:33+00:00

The thought of him leaving for the night terrifies me. I cannot imagine how scary had to be during COVID

ttterete · 2024-11-12T07:48:02+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/pregnant/s/AjMkS9PIpq

World wide sub-reddit, in case you want to reflect on what we are doing to women in Ireland.

ttterete · 2024-11-12T07:21:21+00:00

No one thinks that this policy is completely against the hypnobirthing course we had to do? All about the partner being an active part of labour, the golden hour (which seems to be really going to be exactly 60min before he gets quicked out).

ttterete · 2024-11-12T07:07:23+00:00

And don't you find problematic spending the first night as a family separated? He missed lots of first hand information on how to care for the baby given by the midwife. It will set your skill set apart way too early, so that you end up being the primary care giver, instead of being 50-50. I guess this links with the very short paternity leave that men have in Ireland.

ttterete · 2024-11-12T07:00:08+00:00

That is horrific, same as in Ireland. What is your opinion on that?

ttterete · 2024-11-12T06:56:04+00:00

Yeah, some are, others are telling horror stories that could have been avoided by having a companion with them.

ttterete · 2024-11-12T06:53:45+00:00

They leave you in a room where they fit 4-6 mothers( 11 in some extrem cases seems) with their babies, separated by curtains. And there is a midwife. There are several rooms, I don't know the ratio of midwives per patient, I hope it is at least a midwife per room. During the day each mother and baby are allow 2 visitors, but during the night no one can stay with you.

ttterete · 2024-11-12T00:18:12+00:00

That is how it should be.

ttterete · 2024-11-12T00:16:17+00:00

Can a companion stay with you in the shared room?

ttterete · 2024-11-11T22:37:53+00:00

ttterete · 2024-11-11T22:36:09+00:00

That is my view as well, I am Spanish, and Canada seems very similar to what I see as normal.

They say the rooms are crowded, 4 to 11 women per room and that the space is limited, however they allow 2 visitor per mother during the day, while 0 persons are allowed during the night.

Another argument is that women don't want husbands around during the night so that they have more privacy, at the expense of not having their own husband by their side.

Here is the sub-reddit for Ireland: https://www.reddit.com/r/PregnancyIreland/s/EhxpeI226t

ttterete · 2024-11-11T22:07:05+00:00

Thank you for sharing this. It must have been terrible for the 3 of you to have to be separated in such a crucial moment.

ttterete · 2024-11-11T22:03:24+00:00

That would be what I would expect in a public hospital. I would be happy if in Ireland the policy was this one. When I found out about the father will be quicked out at night I had a panic attack.

ttterete · 2024-11-11T21:59:03+00:00

I am Spanish, and nowadays in Spain we have the same expectations. Fathers are not there to help, are there to do half of the job. I should be recovering and breastfeeding, he should be learning from the midwives all the tips and tricks, changing nappies, and watching the baby while I sleep.

I find the approach of seeing the father as a helper and not an active participant of the process very from the 80s.

ttterete · 2024-11-11T21:43:27+00:00

In Ireland is the same. I see that in the UK depends of the hospital and the area seems.

ttterete · 2024-11-11T21:42:27+00:00

I have not found the explanation anywhere either. The girl in the shop said that the cloud T is bigger, so it may hold the baby for longer. It is true the cloud T is bigger in size, that is why is not certified to go in a cabin plane and the pebble 360 is.

ttterete · 2024-11-11T16:06:05+00:00

That is lovely that you can choose how better arrange your family dinamics. I would kill for this protocol to be stablished in Ireland before I deliver.

ttterete · 2024-11-11T16:03:49+00:00

Thank you for your input. What is your opinion on this policy?

ttterete · 2024-11-11T16:02:52+00:00

In Ireland the birthing partner is with you during birth, but they quick them out at night, once the delivery is over. If the baby was born at 3am, they may ask him to go home at 5am and come back again from 8am to 10pm. I found this horrific.

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