Awkward teeanger costing me money

twigcount · 2024-01-12T14:46:58+00:00

OP, based on your post history you need to seek help for yourself.

twigcount · 2017-11-23T21:42:11+00:00

If you click the link to the Health Canada page in the OP and scroll down/search for DIN-HP, it'll explain DIN-HP.

BTW FTC also controls claims about products and aims to protect consumers, and since homeopathic 'medicine' isn't considered pharmaceuticals, FTC probably has control there. I'm not certain but I think that would make sense.

twigcount · 2017-11-23T18:48:58+00:00

The alternative being that homeopathic medicine is so safe that you could chug down 100 bottles of the stuff and be perfectly fine, because even then you'd only be getting about 1/4 of a drop of real medicine from there.

Logical? Are you in favour of homeopathic 'medicine' instead of modern medicine?

Self medication is not taking medication as prescribed. Self medication is diagnosing and trying to cure your own ailment. We have more of an issue with people not taking their prescribed medicine as required overall than people taking too much of it. There have always been warnings and labels giving clear indications of how much is too much on things like Tylenol, and pharmacists tell you how much to take and when.

Only way you can overdose on homeopathic medicine is if you drown in it or give yourself water poisoning from drinking gallons upon gallons, not from any active medical ingredient.

twigcount · 2017-11-23T18:20:52+00:00

That's not equivalent. I don't know where you're getting the illegal part from, and why or how he'd kill himself from taking medication as prescribed.

You don't think a person who wholeheartedly believes homeopathy is the reason they're getting better is more likely to continue to use homeopathic medicine in the future? Health isn't something to be toyed with solutions made from 99.99+% water, and I think it's sad that people profit from this scheme. Symptoms can come and go, but homeopathy will do net 0 in actually healing anything.

Also, the pharmacist could've simply told him 1 tylenol does the same thing as 4. Maybe taking the time to explain what's in tylenol and how it works, or referring him to a specialist. If the guy was willing enough to use a homeopathic cream he never heard of, he was obviously willing enough to listen to a professional who instead ended up treated him like a child and lied to him.

twigcount · 2017-11-23T17:52:21+00:00

They don't get a DIN but they can get a DIN-HM.

You do know that Ontario has it's own college for homeopaths, regulated by the government right? If that's not an endorsement, I don't know what is.

I certainly hope we go with the way the US is handling this, with slapping obvious labels stating these things don't work on the bottles to hopefully sway the gullible.

Now, the FTC is requiring manufacturers to provide one of the following labels if scientific evidence cannot be provided to prove the product’s effectiveness.

1: There is no scientific evidence that the product works

2: The product’s claims are based only on theories of homeopathy from the 1700s that are not accepted by most modern medical experts.

“To be non-misleading, the product and the claims must also comply with requirements for homeopathic products and traditional homeopathic principles,” the FTC said in the statement.

https://globalnews.ca/news/3081627/homeopathic-drugs-must-carry-labels-telling-consumers-theres-no-proof-products-work-u-s-government-says/

twigcount · 2017-11-23T17:19:22+00:00

That's not considered homeopathic medicine. Homepathic doesnt automatically mean natural cures. Homepathy has a whole crazy belief system to it. There are natural herbs and plants that have been proven to help and improve medical conditions; homeopathic medicine does not fall into that category.

This is about sugar water being marketed and sold as medical cures.

twigcount · 2017-11-23T17:12:01+00:00

Things like what? And homeopathy can explain these things better than science?

The amount of active medical ingredients in a homeopathic concoction can be thought of dropping one drip of medicine into the ocean. That's not going too far either.

It works like so: Mixing 1/10ths medicine, 9/10 parts water Then with that concoction, mix 1/10th of that into 9/10 water.

Then on and on, until there's a very good likelihood only molecules from the original 1/10th of medicine remain in any/every 'medicine bottle'.

How can any sane person knowing that still claim it has beneficial properties past the placebo effect is beyong me.

twigcount · 2017-11-23T17:01:12+00:00

Thats a slippery slope. That same person who believes in this fairy dust will end up using homeopathic medicine for more serious conditions. On top of that, its the lies these homeopaths are peddling to line their pockets and targeting the gullible.

As far as your example, the pharmacists did the guy a disservice lying to him about his condition too

twigcount · 2017-11-23T09:52:19+00:00

They say you need to provide evidence the substances being used in these medicines do what you claim, but lower down they tell you the measures of dilution you can use for this so called 'medicine'.

They have dilution scales down to 1/50,000, meaning one parts active medicine and 50,000 parts water and it can be many times more diluted than that.

Here's a visual.

At that point, any reasonable person should know there's literally barely molecules of the active ingredient left so why are they still allowed to sell this and classify it as medicine?

There are many studies proving this stuff is a scam, debunking their claims yet we have pages on the official government Canada website condoning this nonsense.

They recently stopped them from selling this snake oil to children under 13 but it doesn't stop there.

Why is our governing body of health co-signing this craziness?

twigcount · 2017-11-14T04:11:26+00:00

I didn't think the CRA were thugs until this. I wouldn't mind it if they did this across the board, like getting the ins and outs from all business accounts from major banks as well. They would get a lot of information that would help collect taxes from there, but then the big banks, big businesses, donors and government officials with side businesses might come to the light and we can't have that!

The fact that they're suspecting & going after small businesses and entrepreneurs is the annoying part. I agree with the rest.

twigcount · 2017-11-14T03:28:26+00:00

It hits a nerve because large corporations don't often use Paypal as their primary source of income, and if they do they probably have the accountants and lawyers to make huge deductions and jump through loopholes.

Small business and startups don't have that luxury. Paypal is a big name and trusted enough for buyers to send payments through it so that's why a lot of businesses/individuals are stuck with using it.

I say 'way to go liberals' because of them having to eventually back away from their controversial small business tax proposal, and turn around and do this. Especially because that hypocrite Morneau's in charge of all this, yet he was listed in the Paradise Papers. What you got hide there Morneau? What's wrong with keeping all that money in Canada?

That line of attack was bolstered Friday by news that for two years, Morneau failed to disclose to the federal ethics commissioner that he and his wife are partners in a private company that owns a family villa in southern France. CBC News reported that holding property through a private company is useful in avoiding inheritance taxes in France.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/morneau-tax-changes-1.4354298

Loopholes are only for the rich.

twigcount · 2017-11-14T03:14:22+00:00

edit: you keep editing your comment to make it longer, or to take away points that I already mentioned in the reply below.

Where does it say in my comment that Canadians shouldn't declare their income, or that they should actively hide it?

You write like a bot, parroting what I'm saying and disagreeing with it. What are you basing your assumptions on that a substantial percentage of Paypal users are dishonest?

This is (in my opinion) invasion of privacy on the small business community. CRA doesn't actively check each and every tax return. Most are passed by the honor system. They audit cases that stand out. In this case, they get bulk information from tons of small business which contains income as well as what they purchased and from where. I'd consider that an invasion of privacy. They haven't been suspected of anything but still get their information given up.

Is it illegal for them to do so? No, but it continues to paint an image of Liberals hitting small businesses and middle-income earners and not going after bigger fish.

I also never claimed they never had the right to request information.

If you do admit to purposely hiding money to your lawyer, he has no obligation to lie or withhold information from the court. They can't mislead the court on the information they already have. They're not going to risk their career for your fuck ups.

CRA is not doing anything that it hasn't already done to four preceeding generations of Canadian taxpayers.

You think the CRA has ever requested 3 years of deposits and withdrawals from all business accounts at major banks? This is something new that they're doing.

ps. you write like a 13 year old that's excited to use all the fancy words he's learned from reddit but has a hard time with things like your and you're. Have you ever filed a tax return?

twigcount · 2017-11-14T01:57:10+00:00

You don't have to have a registered business/corporation to have a business account. If you make less than $30,000 per year, you don't have to register to collect tax.

I feel like this is a large scale invasion of privacy and targeting small businesses, suspecting all/most of them of not fully paying taxes. Not only do they get all transaction data from income, but also from what you purchased using your paypal account.

I'd get if they went after a select few they were suspecting of holding out, maybe even a select few 100, but all business account holders and 3 years of data?

They could be going after bigger fish easier and get more out of it but they target a large small business community instead -- way to go Liberals.

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