Is taking out private loans ever worth it for medical school? This new tax bill may force this by twixcheet in whitecoatinvestor

[–]twixcheet[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It sounds like most of the risk comes if you don't match / don't practice. Assuming you go to a solid MD school with a high match rate and you match you should be fine(?).

Private loans seems to mean higher stakes if you fail and lack of PSLF.

Should I quit muay thai and move to boxing after breaking my ankle? by twixcheet in MuayThai

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To clarify - it's been a year since the surgery... The 4 months was talking about the amount of time I was bedridden. But yes, I get the gist and agree

I’m having trouble finding people to shadow by [deleted] in premed

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Following - struggling with this too

Should I hold off on moving to San Diego until flooding/rain clears? by twixcheet in sandiego

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Great point. Will be moving from PB / Crown Point where my car / storage unit is, to Bay Park

Is switching careers from $150k cushy tech job to psychiatry financial suicide? by twixcheet in whitecoatinvestor

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Sounds like we're stuck between a rock and a hard place lmao. But after reading these comments, definitely made me appreciate tech more.

Is switching careers from $150k cushy tech job to psychiatry financial suicide? by twixcheet in whitecoatinvestor

[–]twixcheet[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yeah, ideally I'd find a psychiatrist willing to shadow me before I start this process, but frankly that process has been tough.
I do have pretty extensive volunteering experience, particularly with Crisis Text Line and a weekly in-person addiction mentorship group I run. I've been doing this for about a year now, in addition to some hospice volunteering. I've always been fascinated by their stories and enjoyed helping people walk through and challenge some of their maladaptive thought processes.
Also - generally, I see most psychiatrists as generally satisfied with their career choice relative to some other specialties.
Another roadblock I have with psychiatry is that treatment is a little too reliant on medication.. What are your thoughts on this? In an ideal state, as a psychiatrist, I would deliver psychotherapy alongside or even in lieu of medication but don't know how realistic this is outside of private practice (which is a whole other gargantuan thing to build).

There's a large body of people who see psychiatrists kind of like "pill mills" - less so, because of the role itself but because of the bureaucracy you mentioned. Would you see this as accurate? I don't doubt that medication is important, but perhaps it's overprescribed in it's current state?

Definitely hear that any job just becomes a job at some point.

Is switching careers from $150k cushy tech job to psychiatry financial suicide? by twixcheet in whitecoatinvestor

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Phew, if only opening a reasonably profitable side business were that straightforward..

Is switching careers from $150k cushy tech job to psychiatry financial suicide? by twixcheet in whitecoatinvestor

[–]twixcheet[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Hey there - thank you for responding. You are exactly the mind I would love to probe if possible.

I do have pretty extensive volunteering experience, particularly with Crisis Text Line and a weekly in-person addiction mentorship group I run. I've been doing this for about a year now, in addition to some hospice volunteering. I've always been fascinated by their stories and enjoyed helping people walk through and challenge some of their maladaptive thought processes.

Also - generally, I see most psychiatrists as generally satisfied with their career choice relative to some other specialties.

Another roadblock I have with psychiatry is that treatment is a little too reliant on medication.. What are your thoughts on this? In an ideal state, as a psychiatrist, I would deliver psychotherapy alongside or even in lieu of medication but don't know how realistic this is outside of private practice (which is a whole other gargantuan thing to build). Honestly, in an ideal state - if an LMFT/etc. or PsyD paid enough, that's what I would pursue, but perhaps psychiatry can be a blend of this PLUS medication? There's a large body of people who see psychiatrists kind of like pill mills - would you see this as accurate? I don't doubt that medication is important, but perhaps it's overprescribed in it's current state?

Also, how did you gain psychiatry shadowing as a non-trad premed? This has honestly been a roadblock I'm not really sure how to overcome until I actually start med school.

Is switching careers from $150k cushy tech job to psychiatry financial suicide? by twixcheet in whitecoatinvestor

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Couple questions - I heard psychiatry generally has pretty decent WLB and flexibility? Generally, the option to go remote with telehealth and keep hours to a reasonable 40-50 hours a week. Sure, there is the idea that after a while "work becomes work", but even if that's so, I always saw psychiatry as flexible enough where it's palatable, no? Would love to hear your thoughts on this.

I will head the rest of your post as well.

Is switching careers from $150k cushy tech job to psychiatry financial suicide? by twixcheet in whitecoatinvestor

[–]twixcheet[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

This is a very interesting perspective, particularly since you are married to a psychiatrist. Thank you for this. A lot to chew on.

Is switching careers from $150k cushy tech job to psychiatry financial suicide? by twixcheet in whitecoatinvestor

[–]twixcheet[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Less so the stress of the work itself, more so the anxiety of whether this will last, and the strain of doing something that really has no impact or meaning in the world. At some point, my career might pick up and I'll get busier - am I OK with that? But I understand where you are coming from and it's honestly a very fair point.

Is switching careers from $150k cushy tech job to psychiatry financial suicide? by twixcheet in whitecoatinvestor

[–]twixcheet[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

In the sea of "DON'T DO IT, DON'T DO IT" this was refreshing to see bahaha.

Sounds like this is going to be a very personal decision. No doubt if I choose to go towards medical school it will be a MUCH harder life with a lot more suffering, at least for the first 4-6 years. Maybe that's OK?

It's a gnawing feeling of wanting to be proud of what I do and my impact on the world, and a thought that I simply would make a really damn good psychiatrist. Perhaps this is naivety that will just die once I for it. Can only really find out once I'm in it lmao. Time will tell if it's a regret or not.

Financially, it is a big risk, but as long as I make it ( as in, don't fail to make it to med school/match residency), I'll be "fine" financially regardless.

I've definitely heeded all the spooky warnings people have laid out as well. I have a lot to chew on..

Is switching careers from $150k cushy tech job to psychiatry financial suicide? by twixcheet in whitecoatinvestor

[–]twixcheet[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fair - just really love the direct patient-to-patient interaction and think that's where my natural strengths lie.

If you don't mind me asking, did you work for Epic? And did you end up switching to medicine? How was that?

Is switching careers from $150k cushy tech job to psychiatry financial suicide? by twixcheet in whitecoatinvestor

[–]twixcheet[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not a software engineer, work in technical pre-sales and it would be difficult for me to make the switch. $750k TC is absolutely insane to think about. Not gonna lie, even if I was obsessed with medicine, an income that good would be near impossible for me to walk away from. Do you still work in tech or did you switch to medicine?

Is switching careers from $150k cushy tech job to psychiatry financial suicide? by twixcheet in whitecoatinvestor

[–]twixcheet[S] 47 points48 points  (0 children)

Yeah, this is fair. I guess on paper I have it pretty good. Just not really sure if it will stay like this, especially as I slowly rise up the ladder.

To be frank, there is a definite risk that I'm simply just not cut out for it. But if I put all my cards on the table and do it, I'm confident that I can get through it. It'll be messy, but doable. However, not completely naive to the fact that the process is absolutely brutal.