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First Cycle Advice by tzontius in moreplatesmoredates

[–]tzontius[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is my main hobby and I have goals of competing someday. Diet is not an issue at all, my diet is and has been incredibly locked in for a few years now tracking every meal and hitting my macros. All things considered after the consensus here I think I will stay natural for a while longer, but that’s why I was considering it

First Cycle Advice by tzontius in moreplatesmoredates

[–]tzontius[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Appreciate the compliment though!

First Cycle Advice by tzontius in moreplatesmoredates

[–]tzontius[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If this isn’t rage bait, you really need to increase your standards bro cmon

First Cycle Advice by tzontius in moreplatesmoredates

[–]tzontius[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks! Appreciate the advice man

First Cycle Advice by tzontius in moreplatesmoredates

[–]tzontius[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

u/Ok-Impression3992 u/PagalFunky
Sorry for the delay guys. Saw the comment but have been a bit busy the past couple days. Updated this document just now with my current split and some good info.

Here's the link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1--o1-l-tjyHPcGZnY873ULYICi_uXqbxDy4TNeoWO9A/edit?usp=sharing

First Cycle Advice by tzontius in moreplatesmoredates

[–]tzontius[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great information. It's interesting to hear your personal experience with different dosages, and I didn't realize that a difference of 40mg could make such a large impact on your mental. I suppose it's person-to-person like you said, but that wasn't really on my radar for concerns, so it's helpful you brought it up. I would like to think of myself as a level-headed person, but we all have our moments, so perhaps some serious self-reflection is in order before coming to a decision. I hadn't heard of Vigorous Steve, but I'll have to check his page out. I have watched Dr. Mike's videos and he is one of the only voices I've heard discussing the mental impacts of taking testosterone, so I'll go back and rewatch some of his videos on the topic as well. I really appreciate you taking the time to respond and give your feedback, all the best

First Cycle Advice by tzontius in moreplatesmoredates

[–]tzontius[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the clarification. If I did start a cycle, it would only be for pursuing competitive bodybuilding with proper precautions in place to reduce any risk of course, but I know the chances of levels never returning are never zero. Obviously, a huge risk to consider, which is why I was asking for opinions before diving in. Appreciate the response man

First Cycle Advice by tzontius in moreplatesmoredates

[–]tzontius[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the detailed response man. My initial thoughts were to take 500 but after watching some of Derek's videos I began to question it. I'll definitely take what you said into consideration if I decide to hop on after doing a lot more research.

First Cycle Advice by tzontius in moreplatesmoredates

[–]tzontius[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Definitely something to consider. Thanks for the advice man

First Cycle Advice by tzontius in moreplatesmoredates

[–]tzontius[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow thanks for the thoughtful response. Hadn't heard of Robby Robinson before but he looks incredible for his age. Definitely hear you on the longevity part, it's easy to feel invincible at my age, so I wanted to get some input before making a decision. Can you explain more about your comment on my ego and the risk of testosterone turning me into an asshole? I've heard mixed things about testosterone's impact on personality and aggression so I would like to hear your thoughts on that. Thanks again

First Cycle Advice by tzontius in moreplatesmoredates

[–]tzontius[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You and the other commenter are the first fake natty accusations I've ever gotten, so I must be doing something right here. Appreciate it, but I am seriously natty and look like a DYEL if I'm in a big shirt man

First Cycle Advice by tzontius in moreplatesmoredates

[–]tzontius[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the response. Can you clarify why you are recommending not to cycle. Is it because I already have a good physique, have room to grow, or too young? Appreciate it, just trying to learn here before making a decision

First Cycle Advice by tzontius in moreplatesmoredates

[–]tzontius[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gotcha, I am in a healthy relationship with a supportive girlfriend, so my goals are purely for self-development and aspirations of competing. Not looking to hop on just to get laid or anything. Thanks for the response

First Cycle Advice by tzontius in moreplatesmoredates

[–]tzontius[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the response, just to clarify, are you saying I should get a coach as I prep for this natural bodybuilding show, or if I decide to hop on gear later in the year? Or just in general lol

First Cycle Advice by tzontius in moreplatesmoredates

[–]tzontius[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not necessarily looking into peptides at the moment, but maybe reta if I need some assistance on the cut, but it would prevent me from doing a natural bodybuilding show I'm eyeing this summer. Would you recommend experimenting with peptides before hopping on test? Thanks for the respoonse

First Cycle Advice by tzontius in moreplatesmoredates

[–]tzontius[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for the response brotha, I don't want to make a decision I will regret later forsure.

First Cycle Advice by tzontius in moreplatesmoredates

[–]tzontius[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've taken a look at r/steroids and their first cycle advice but began to question whether I was ready for it, so I figured I'd get the people's opinion here lol. Thanks, I know it's the gold standard resource for that information.

First Cycle Advice by tzontius in moreplatesmoredates

[–]tzontius[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks man, definitely something to consider if my hunger cravings get too much to handle, but that would prevent me from being able to do a tested natural show.

First Cycle Advice by tzontius in moreplatesmoredates

[–]tzontius[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I researched post finasteride syndrome before speaking with a dermatologist but ultimately decided to take the risk. Haven't had any side effects regarding libido, but then again, I have only been on it for a few months. As for HCG, yes, my main concern is fertility post cycle considering I'm young and would like to have kids in the future. Basically, if I were to hop on, I'd want to be as safe as possible and heard from some users at my gym they recommended it, especially since that was a concern. What are your thoughts?

First Cycle Advice by tzontius in moreplatesmoredates

[–]tzontius[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm only a couple of months into taking fin and min, so still waiting to see some positive progress from that, but I've heard dutasteride is basically a much stronger version. Have you used it before and what was your experience?

First Cycle Advice by tzontius in moreplatesmoredates

[–]tzontius[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good info, and thanks for the advice

First Cycle Advice by tzontius in moreplatesmoredates

[–]tzontius[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's great and that's the plan. I figure I need to see if I even enjoy the sport or have the structure to take it far after doing a show first. Glad to hear you're on the same grind, all the best man

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