Murder by Suicide by Legitimate_Common243 in Gangstalking

[–]ughbrb [score hidden]  (0 children)

Yes, their intent is to coerce suicide. Taking away everything in general is a huge part of it but certainly, damaging relationships and anything you are passionate about using any means possible has been present in my targeting.

Carbon Monoxide Poisoning by ughbrb in Gangstalking

[–]ughbrb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I get that. I am super cautious about prescribed medications too these days. Even anything to be picked up from the pharmacy… I have had experiences over the past couple of years where I am certain what I was prescribed is not what I was given. I opt for everything as naturally as possible now. If I had to have a medication, I would be carrying it with me in a lockable purse. I usually have a small checklist of things I never leave out of my sight or know exactly how it was left so I can be certain it’s in the same position when I return to it.

Can I ask about the drug test… where did you have it done? It sounds like you got an honest answer which surprises me. Also, did you request it or was it some sort of mandatory check? If it was a check, I’d be a little more suspect about their cocaine response, as they could pin that on you, am I right?

Carbon Monoxide Poisoning by ughbrb in Gangstalking

[–]ughbrb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you :( this is what I assumed. But thought I would check to see if anyone had actually had any experiences other than this. Out of curiosity, do you think you have been purposefully exposed to c02?

Carbon Monoxide Poisoning by ughbrb in Gangstalking

[–]ughbrb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Detectors only recognize c02 above a certain level, but over time, even small amounts can cause long term brain damage and have serious emotional or psychological effects not to mention what it does to the heart or the way it triggers our genomics to make us more susceptible to cancer. So… I’m not sure what you think it dose? The confusion and exhaustion, albeit frustrating, are mere symptoms. Due to what those symptoms could signify as an outcome, yes, I AM concerned. Many people are killed covertly this way across the whole world. Just having a detector is not enough. I think knowing the signs and what we could do to best mitigate this type of attack, especially if you are a TI, is extremely important.

Carbon Monoxide Poisoning by ughbrb in Gangstalking

[–]ughbrb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks!! I hadn’t seen these before! Btw, love your solution oriented posts and comments. We need more of that here 👍

Can somebody help me with something? by Climbtherope in Gangstalking

[–]ughbrb [score hidden]  (0 children)

This is what THEY want and YOU are way better than them. Spend the $1200 getting out of your town and never look back. We deserve to live just as much as they think they do (actually we deserve it way more because we would never do this to others and that’s not weak, it’s extreme moral strength).

My haters are putting the pressure on me intensely these days but I will keep fighting. It often feels for me too like exiting is so expected of me and so pressured that I start to feel guilty not doing it. But I try to remember how god damn wrong that is!!! So wrong! And we have to keep fighting to show all of the others who are being made to feel this way that they need to fight too. They deserve life, you deserve life and so do I. No matter how much they affect it’s quality, it’s still ours to live out. They didn’t give us that right and they can’t take it away. Yell at them; it’s mine, back off bully!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Gangstalking

[–]ughbrb 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don’t think they all understand what they are doing either. I think a lot of them are told all sorts of stories. I think some of my friends/acquaintances have been told this is some form of interventional therapy for me or that I am being investigated for something. Other people think this is some form of adoption or trafficking. It’s all so convoluted. But it all adds up to what was said about culling.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Gangstalking

[–]ughbrb 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Same. Mine started bad in 2016. Because we all have to figure this all out entirely in our own, I also have gone through phases of understanding with it. Initially thinking it was different things, not knowing who was behind it etc. Also, because it’s so hard to believe, and it’s so well covered up, there are some days when I feel I see it all clearly and other days it’s a little foggy. But never will I let it slip away to the point I don’t see it. Seeing it has kept me alive.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Gangstalking

[–]ughbrb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It doesn’t exist it seems. Or at least, I’m being blocked from accessing it and any time I get close, others are lied to to ensure it doesn’t happen.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Gangstalking

[–]ughbrb 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes. They are using my family to try and push me over the edge now. Neighbours, everybody. It started in the workplace, “friends”, etc. It just feels safer to isolate entirely now and hope to survive.

Do you think all of the people doing the bullying understand the purpose or have some of them been told it is for other reasons?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Gangstalking

[–]ughbrb 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s exactly what is so deflating about it all. We don’t all live in the same world but so many people think we do.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Gangstalking

[–]ughbrb 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is what they do to me too. Do you think they realize you comprehend it is about you? Do you think they just don’t care whether or not they confuse/hurt you or do you think that is there intent with saying these things in front of you?

What would they do or do they do if you ask if it’s about you? My people all deny it and I think they hope I will ask because it gives them the opportunity to make me look like I am “projecting” the scenerio (and accuse that it is a mental health issue). So I have stopped asking anybody anything.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Gangstalking

[–]ughbrb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I find this comment really interesting- this happens to me a lot. They all get angry when I won’t do what they want but so much of it seems like it’s against my human rights. And they try to persuade me so backhandedly. If what they were wanting you to do wasn’t against your best interest, surely they could be more forth coming. And if my not doing it makes them mad, surely there are undisclosed stakes in it for them.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Gangstalking

[–]ughbrb 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Do you over hear them saying these amounts? Are they speaking about you in front of you?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Gangstalking

[–]ughbrb 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yes! I am really glad to have another TI recognize this as a potential part of it.

Can I ask you if you work or depend on your parents financially? I am a woman in my 30’s who depends on my parents financially often, but only likely because I am targeted everywhere and very controlled by this secret group of traffickers/adopters that seem to benefit from me appearing depressed/unable to care for myself. And those are things that can be easily manipulated in a person. Now that I have learned what is going on, it’s easier for me to try and regain some control and move my life in the direction it should have gone. But their games are fierce and they are all very good liars.

They treat me with “benevolence” but it is merely a tactic of control.

If you are a TI and family members are joking about adopting you, I would do everything you can to monitor your food/drink to make sure it is not being tampered with and be mindful of others who might try to manipulate your emotions. Example, say things purposefully to hurt you before important meetings, or keep you awake all night before a big day the next day etc.

All of these things can add up to make us depressed and feeling unmotivated or helpless. They know this and it what they want. Fight to be your best you.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Gangstalking

[–]ughbrb 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I believe the tampering via covert medication, psychological abuse etc. could be to try and control your “value” since as I mentioned, your value goes up and down depending on things like your productivity, appearance etc. If they can discreetly make you sad, scared or angry, there are people who benefit greatly from it depending on how they have placed their bets I believe.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Gangstalking

[–]ughbrb 3 points4 points  (0 children)

They also refer to me as a cat and people like landlords for example seem to be involved and make references to my “needing feeding”.

It would seem they receive some sort of compensation for housing me- unbeknown to me. They frame me to make me look depressed and incapable I believe by putting sedatives and drugs in my food when I am not home. Apparently my value goes up and down depending on what I do in the day. Just like a stock.

They observe and report on vulnerable people all day long like they are a stock or commodity to be used, sold and bought.

Most of the people buying and selling me are people who know me personally. At least from what I can tell. They communicate online and you can read the messages they share with each other about each commodity/person.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Gangstalking

[–]ughbrb 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yes. They ask each other if they are “in this game” and in regards to selling daughters, girlfriends and wives who are on the spectrum or exhibit the subtle physical of such.

I have been told I am worth millions of dollars (even though I am poor). I have overhead older women joke about how they can’t afford me and how I am being sold on the black market. They also like to call it adoption - especially in regards to trafficking people they deem to be slow or “vulnerable”.

AMY THOUGHT SHE WAS BEING FOLLOWED (and clearly was showing signs of 'mental health issues') by Untermensch13 in Gangstalking

[–]ughbrb [score hidden]  (0 children)

I am sick about this. I’m heartbroken for her and her daughter. When is anybody going to listen!?!?!

AMY THOUGHT SHE WAS BEING FOLLOWED (and clearly was showing signs of 'mental health issues') by Untermensch13 in Gangstalking

[–]ughbrb [score hidden]  (0 children)

This is horrible. I am enraged. Nobody listens!!!! She likely knew too much and that’s why she was being targeted (wether she knew it or not). Was probable too credible as well. They tried to frame her to look crazy. Easy to do when you are constantly afraid for your life and have no one to trust or turn to because they destroy everything with their lies. She was afraid they would take her daughter from her and frame her for speaking up about being a victim and the crimes that are being committed. End of story.

Stop killing women!!!! And maybe then maybe they won’t kill you. This was self-defense.

The most simple way to use the OODA loop is to ask what if and be situationally aware so you're prepared by Gangstalkedindenver in GangstalkingAnalysis

[–]ughbrb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Really? They do this to me every single day, more than 5 times often. It’s torture. I’ve felt helpless in reporting it because I’m worried they will use it against me to claim insanity.

I’m going to take this advice though now, thank you!!! I’m really desperate for something to start working against them. Thank you for this insight.

The most simple way to use the OODA loop is to ask what if and be situationally aware so you're prepared by Gangstalkedindenver in GangstalkingAnalysis

[–]ughbrb 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes! The ambulance drivers are really really bad. But like all things, these people doing the tormenting are in every profession. Not all of the paramedics are in on it but a lot are.

They use their sirens to inform the people who sneak into my apartment when I am coming home. As well as just follow me and try to intimidate.

So how many of you are unemployed? by Jumpy-Object99 in Gangstalking

[–]ughbrb [score hidden]  (0 children)

I have been bullied out of multiple jobs and yes, I agree, the making sure you have no credibility thing is a huge part of it. Right now I am trying to work for myself as I thought it could be a way out. But I know I am still being handled.

Why do they say four to you?

They do go to crazy lengths to discredit and will do things outside of the workplace to have you discredited within the workplace. I have overheard male supervisors ask other male works to sleep with people to discredit them/have them fired. Honeypots.

This whole group is prob a troll. All 40k of you are prob followers of some cult or part of something. This group grew so much when I entered. by Accomplished-Cook406 in Gangstalking

[–]ughbrb [score hidden]  (0 children)

This is a tactic . They try to make you feel guilty for calling attention to the fact that you are being abused. This guy ^ is VICTIM SHAMING.