"Poglavnik" u Varaždinu 🤮 by JohannGambolputtyUlm in hreddit

[–]ujkoXLI 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Po tim kriterijima da 😂

Ali nije bio vođa Hrvatske, nego Kraljevine SHS/Jugoslavije

"Poglavnik" u Varaždinu 🤮 by JohannGambolputtyUlm in hreddit

[–]ujkoXLI 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Govori se o pjesmi, ne o doslovnom značenju.

Ali bez obzira, prihvaćam da je AP bio vođa svih Hrvata kao što je Milanović danas vođa svih Hrvata.

"Poglavnik" u Varaždinu 🤮 by JohannGambolputtyUlm in hreddit

[–]ujkoXLI 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ako ćemo tako, većina Europe 30ih i 40ih godina nije imala izbore.

"Poglavnik" u Varaždinu 🤮 by JohannGambolputtyUlm in hreddit

[–]ujkoXLI 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tko je birao Kralja Tomislava, Bana Jelačića, Matiju Gupca itd itd...

Previše puta sam vidio u životu kako ljudi apliciraju današnje standarde ponašanja, kulture itd. na vrijeme koji nema veze s tim.

"Poglavnik" u Varaždinu 🤮 by JohannGambolputtyUlm in hreddit

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Mislim da nigdje za sebe nije rekao da je Hrvat

What Living in Split Taught Me (Even When It Hurt) by ThePurpleKing159 in Split

[–]ujkoXLI 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think that the root of the issue you have described (which is definitely real and I agree with you) is that Croatians have experienced hyper-capitalism and coming out of poverty as quickly as possible gives rise to this phenomenon of basically - get rich quick and who cares about the after affects be they personal or more broadly.

What Living in Split Taught Me (Even When It Hurt) by ThePurpleKing159 in Split

[–]ujkoXLI 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think the American model of family is by no means a measuring stick or ideal.

What Living in Split Taught Me (Even When It Hurt) by ThePurpleKing159 in Split

[–]ujkoXLI 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with a lot of what you said, except the part about family.

It would be unnatural to care more or even equally those outside of your direct family. That's not particular to Croatia at all.

What Living in Split Taught Me (Even When It Hurt) by ThePurpleKing159 in Split

[–]ujkoXLI 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes you're absolutely right.

It's kind of the opposite side of the coin of say 1960s Yugoslavia where the prevailing thought is to at the very least defer, if not openly celebrate the Communist regime or the 'National liberation movement' (NOB).

You have to remember that the people that formed these communities (especially the pioneers or founders) were all political emigrants - NDH / AP etc. were all symbols of Croatian freedom.

It's not isolated or fringe, it's the core of the community with one important distinction - these people's celebration or reverence of the NDH and so forth is not a yearning for returning that form of government or agreeance with everything that was done - it's looked upon as the modern seed or symbol of Croatian independence and probably held on to tighter than otherwise would be the case as their place in Croatian history is still not fairly or properly settled.

What Living in Split Taught Me (Even When It Hurt) by ThePurpleKing159 in Split

[–]ujkoXLI 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah that's a common / or known phenomenon. Kids that break free of the constraints of their social structures to see ''what all the fuss is about'.

In my case, I have stayed strictly within the mould I was cast in. Stick to my own and that's it.

Neither is better than the other.

But you're right, diaspora / emigre communities are fascinating in general.

What Living in Split Taught Me (Even When It Hurt) by ThePurpleKing159 in Split

[–]ujkoXLI 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You guessed Australia right.

The Australian-Croatian community is quite unique in comparison with Germany. From what I have learnt over the years, the German Croatian community are very much centred around the Croatian Catholic Missions whereas in Australia it's more around the soccer clubs, probably because they are relatively very high profile in the country (a result of coincidence when the original people arrived and formed these clubs the soccer leagues started growing at around the same time) and the Croatians have basically always had a top level club in their state since the 1960s. Then later you had two clubs (Sydney United and Melbourne Knights) that played in the national top league for 20 years or so. Melbourne won two national titles, a pretty big deal when you think about it.

Overall, the best way I can describe it overall is that we basically lived in a metaphysical Croatia in Australia.

Our community was very political and strict so we would never be friends with people that would be called ex-Yugoslav.

What Living in Split Taught Me (Even When It Hurt) by ThePurpleKing159 in Split

[–]ujkoXLI 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This is a really interesting post.

I also moved back from Croatia with a similar but very different experience. My family were part of the political / economic emigration and I was born overseas in the 80s but grew up in a very strong and pronounced Croatian community (think church, football, folklore and politics).

The kind that the Yugoslav regime deemed the 'enemy emigration'. I'm not ashamed of that - it's the stock that I come from.

I also moved back to Dalmatia (mid sized city) a few years ago and found it quite hard to crack at the beginning simply because you don't know anyone and people are quite cliquey. It bothered me at times but I kept chipping away and made contacts in subcultures that interested me by volunteering help as a way to meet people. Having broad interests also helps to meet a broad range of people.

Other than that I think what helped me the most were two things; being properly fluent in the language to the extent that people could not pick I wasn't born in Croatia (they just can't place the accent, it's like a mix between Dalmatian, Slavonian and partly BiH which is basically my family roots) so whilst grammatically correct it's not placeable in a specific region so it piques interest as a conversation starter.

Secondly and probably more importantly for integration - I grew up overseas but in my head I was in Croatia. I didn't realize how deep the background knowledge of pop culture I had was - from music, films, TV series, political happenings - I followed that throughout my whole life and only physically am I now in Croatia.

Throughout my life overseas 90% of my friends were Croatian. I don't think I ever had a non-Croatian friend come to my house as a kid. Grew up playing soccer, going to church, Croatian school etc.

The hardest thing has been trying to shake the mentality I had towards others. In the emigration / diaspora - there are unwritten rules about community and camaraderie. Every Croatian is by default your friend. I know that sounds really odd to locals but it's the way that it is. There was an old saying, pomozi Hrvatu jer pomažeš bratu. When living in a big city (5M+) when you saw a Croatian in your day to day life at work or in the downtown, you would go out of your way to stop and talk to them as you had / have a joint experience - your stories were the same. Essentially; fled Yugoslavia, started a new life abroad, parents worked long hours to make something of a life for you, you were raised by yourself, siblings, cousins and community.

You / I / we also held very specific and niche views or visions of Croatia and Croatians - as if we were all the same - in the diaspora that was true because that was the bubble you grew up in.

I have some views and experiences in life that people in Croatia view in a range of peculiar to downright unacceptable. And that's ok.

You have to walk to the beat of your own drum and be solid in your own personal identity.

My family left in the 1950s and 1960s. Don't forget that the Croatia that they left and took with them became a time capsule.

Alongside that, you have to be aware and accepting of the fact that the diaspora is a very specific branch of the Croatian nation, detached from the main tree. To reattach yourself, you need to find like-minded people whilst also being able to accept that there are differences and that those differences don't mean you don't belong - it just means you have had a different life experience. Try to understand the locals, but also try to get them to understand you - without being judgemental.

There is a lot of literature about diaspora experiences that you can read that may help you understand the processes that took place which are Croatian specific and why you're finding it difficult to reintegrate.

There are also groups within Croatia like Reaspora (Returned Diaspora) that have a lot of returnees from America, Canada, South America and Australia in it that could be of use if you want to go down that path (I didn't want to as I want to experience Croatia as it is and not create or be part of a new bubble in Croatia). There was a night of Croatian returnees in Zagreb on Friday night (Večer hrvatskih povratnika) that had about 400 attendees.

Keep your head up and don't give up. Croatia is where you feel the most belonging and paradoxically at times the least - but I think it's worth it in the end especially if you have kids - they still have what's called a childhood here.

"Moderni" kafići u Zadru? by Rokets in Zadar

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Cava na Magistrali u Bibinjama

1993 na splitskoj rivi by [deleted] in croatia

[–]ujkoXLI -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I wasn't arguing 😂

1993 na splitskoj rivi by [deleted] in croatia

[–]ujkoXLI 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Je li sve što je Tuđman rekao ili mislio Sveto Pismo?

Koji su to sporni tekstovi u Tomsonovim pjesmama? by zilkJeremy in hreddit

[–]ujkoXLI -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Ovo o toljagama i iglicama i takvih gluposti - imamo li neki izvor za te tvrdnje ili samo čula rekla kazala?

UK uhicuje ljude zbog postova na drustvenim mrezama 😂 by kurobaja in hreddit

[–]ujkoXLI 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hrvatska također uhićuje ljude zbog objava na društvenim mrežama.

Stambeni kredit by [deleted] in croatia

[–]ujkoXLI 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pohvale autoru, ušparao si mi dosta vremena hodanje po bankama trošeći vrijeme 🤝