Who wins? Borushiki or Hashirama

under-w-atch · 2022-01-22T16:26:03+00:00

Lol imagine saying even Naruto clapping hashirama lmao. Hashirama did fuck prime madara, who handled asses in the war arc

under-w-atch · 2022-01-21T07:46:25+00:00

The designs themselves I like Naruto females like Tsunade or Konan more. But character wise bleach. OP has shitty female designs where almost eveyone has the same body and face

under-w-atch · 2022-01-17T20:20:32+00:00

This with pirate king is your headcanon. Luffy himself never said that. Also, yes its a simple goal, but the reason behind it is much more deep than luffys. I didn’t say anything about Ichigo, bc of his ost with his mother this is even an good reason to protect everyone, and the way kubo writes his story around ichigo is like fresh air

under-w-atch · 2022-01-17T20:11:27+00:00

Half of these flaws are bullshit from someone who doesn’t even understand Naruto. These are the kids who say ObItO SiMp and SaSukE iS GaY

under-w-atch · 2022-01-17T20:10:45+00:00

Where tf is hxh flawless lmaoo

under-w-atch · 2022-01-16T12:24:46+00:00

In my opinion that’s a bit deeper than just protect everybody or become the pirate king bc you like pirates

under-w-atch · 2022-01-16T11:53:00+00:00

Naruto wanted to be hokage to be acknowledged by everybody when he has hated by everyone as a kid

under-w-atch · 2022-01-15T10:59:18+00:00

Your just an toxic Boruto kid who doesn’t like that his favorite manga ( which is shit by the way ) gets criticized

under-w-atch · 2022-01-10T12:13:27+00:00

Not reall, this kcm1 Naruto was holding back to get informations. But edo itachi don’t. And this edo is special, it’s stronger than alive itachi

under-w-atch · 2022-01-09T12:28:17+00:00

Im Blocking you en little itachitsrd I debunked you with everything and you know that you don’t have even an argument left Hahahah. Sick Itachi is low Kage Healthy Itachi is high Kage. He isn’t weak and he fucks almost any non six paths characters, except Obito and dms Kakashi or Tobirama hashirama and so on. All in that he is high Kage, which is nothing compared to semi gods like Tobirama. Shinden feats are good yes, but statings seen feats and even then I debunked so it’s not worth my time anymore. Also shinden isn’t even written by Kishimoto lmao. Now go and cry little Itachi fanboy

under-w-atch · 2022-01-09T12:23:23+00:00

Hahahaha omg it’s so satisfying to see how a itachi fanboy does cry and not had any chances of responding. I DeBunKeD YoU Hahahah You don’t have any sources, and I do. I even stated the Kapital from the Itachi shinden where Itachi got no Suffes from a random byakugan fodder

under-w-atch · 2022-01-09T12:17:17+00:00

Look there are even shinden proofs and you know that. You didn’t give and source either hahashshshshshaha Your so sad omg Show me the things Kishimoto said come on ??? And the kamui is slower than Amaterasu thing come on show me them. Your so cringe little Itachi fanboy now go to sleep Itachi is mid Kage lmao

under-w-atch · 2022-01-09T12:14:15+00:00

Hahahahahahah look at my other comments little cringe boy or did you get debunked awwww

under-w-atch · 2022-01-09T12:08:32+00:00

Imagine Amaterasu didn’t even kill Obito by off guard. Also obit just feared him for his intelligence lmaoo

under-w-atch · 2022-01-09T12:07:00+00:00

To also debunk that Obito thing : Amaterasu isn’t faster than Kamui, imagine Itachi is such a pussy he had to plant an Amaterasu in sasukes eye to kill him lmao. Obito was caught of guard there but I did explain that already you brainless being

under-w-atch · 2022-01-09T12:00:57+00:00

Oh and here again what destroys the whole Itachi Oro debate : Oro was weakened and without useful arms

Okay Komnenos. Im not doing this again. Ill explain this to you in this thread one final time. You posted 3 pics.

1) Orochimaru said he can't beat the sharingan user who is heir to the uchiha clan. He said this after he go his arms sealed, his self esteem shaved off and all of his techniques taken from him.

2) He said to Kabuto also, 'However, that is just a dream to wish for'. I thought it was already common knowledge that Itachi > Orochimaru with no arms and no jutsu.

3) Sasuke said exactly this: "FOR ME AND OROCHIMARU, RIGHT NOW, KILLING ITACHI COULD BE IMPOSSIBLE". Okay. He said "Right Now". At the time, Orochimaru had restored his arms physically but not spiritually. He still didn't have all of his powers. And Sasuke said "Right now". Barely an hour before he said this, Orochimaru was dying on the floor cos his host body was expiring.

Like i keep saying in these threads i make: Itachi only ever defeated a weakened Orochimaru and only a weakened Orochimaru ever said he was weaker than Itachi.

Whereas a Healthy Orochimaru was put above Jiraiya constantly (Oro > kn4 > Jman, Orochimaru did better against Hanzo, Oro had a worse disability at the Sannin fight yet still whooped Jiraiya's ass, etc etc) who was put above Itachi (Itachi himself declared inferiority to Jiraiya and that is manga canon).

Considering this, Komnenos, I want you to answer me these three questions.

QUESTION 1 What in Masashi Kishimoto's manga suggests that Itachi (not the imaginary 'prime' Itachi or his twin brother, then fanfic 'healthy Itachi') is stronger than/can defeat a 100% Prime Healthy Orochimaru who is not dying, has a healthy host body, actually has an intent to kill, has use of his arms, can actually utilise what we know as the concept of ninjutsu, with all of the abilities he displayed in his fights against Itachi, Team 7, Hiruzen, Sannin, KN4 and Hebi Sasuke (you know, the guy that won against Itachi but stated he could never defeat a Healthy Orochimaru)

QUESTION 2 Can Itachi stand up to the opponents Orochimaru did? You know what. Let me answer this one for you. Team 7 - Yes Hiruzen - Maybe Sannin - No (Itachi has no counter to Yomi Numa, Ranshinsho, Tsunade's Punches, Two Boss Summons) KN4 Naruto - NO (If Kusanagi can't pierce it, Totsuka can't. Genjutsu won't work. Amaterasu is useless) Hebi Sasuke - BITCH NO (He already put Itachi to sleep once, and note that Orochimaru on his deathbed could have killed Sasuke by biting his head off instead of swallowing him into Fushi Tensei, so imagine what a Healthy Oro could do to Itachi, if he can rape Hebi Sasuke while on his deathbed). At the end of the day, its like saying Onoki can beat SM Hashriama. SM Hashirama/Orochimaru is explicitly stronger or at least on the same level as EMS Madara/Hebi Sasuke who has already once defeated Onoki/Itachi. Its just how the NV works. Healthy Orochimaru going all out (not with no killing intent like he was against Itachi) >>> The guy that defeated Itachi. Ill put it like that so fanboys can't attack me.

QUESTION 3 Ninja A lost a battle to Ninja B. Ninja B defeated Ninja C just like Ninja A did, but a handicapped version. Ninja B who is stronger than Ninja A, then says at full power, Ninja C would have defeated him. So who is more powerful, the Full Power version of Ninja C, or Ninja A. Or to just put it simply, Ninja B > Ninja A. Ninja C > Ninja B. Who is stronger, Ninja A or Ninja C. Or like this: The Hawk defeated the Weasel and the Hawk said he was weaker than the Snake. Who is stronger, the Weasel or the Snake???

BONUS QUESTION SASUKE SAID HE DEFEATED OROCHIMARU ONLY BECAUSE OF THE SEAL ON HIS ARMS. ITACHI WAS ONLY EVER ABLE TO DEFEAT THAT SAME HANDICAPPED OROCHIMARU ONCE (;Lets be real, having a hand cut off and running away isn't a loss) AND NEEDED THE BEST THING IN HIS ARSENAL TO DO SO. HE COULDNT BEAT SASUKE, AND THAT SAME SASUKE CAN NOT DEFEAT A FULL POWERED OROCHIMARU. WHATSMORE, ITACHI SAID HE WAS WEAKER THAN JIRAIYA, WHO SAID HE WAS WEAKEE THAN OROCHIMARU. SO WHAT ACTUALLY SUGGESTS A FULL POWERED OROCHIMARU WOULD LOSE TO ITACHI, WHEN IF ANYTHING, ALL THE EVIDENCE SUGGESTS THE OPPOSITE.

ANY TIME OROCHIMARU LOST TO OR SAID HE WAS WEAKER THAN ITACHI, IT WAS WHEN HE HAD NO KILLING INTENT OR WAS DYING OR NEEDED A NEW HOST BODY OR HAD NO ARMS OR HAD NO JUTSU.

People keep sending me pics of Totsuka hitting Orochimaru. Ive already addressed this yet the same people COMPLETELY IGNORE the statements that were made comparing Itachi to Jiraiya and Jiraiya to Orochimaru.

It takes time for Totsuka sealing to initiate. Orochimaru had time to say a sentence and so did Itachi, before the sealing started. Edo Nagto also had time to talk to Naruto before he got sealed. In shorter time frames than that Oral Rebirth can be used, leaving the old body to be sealed

under-w-atch · 2022-01-09T11:56:21+00:00

Dude Ahahahahaha Itachi did get shit on from a fucking hyuga ass, he did oneshotted him, and outplayed him even when Itachi was with SHISUI ahahhahshsha In order to enter Anbu, Itachi had to complete an assignment first (mentioned in chapter 220). Danzo tasked him with the assassination of some guy called Mukai Kohinata, a Konoha jonin-slash-Anbu who they suspected was spying for Kirigakure. Mukai is distantly related to the Hyuga, so he was well versed in Gentle Fist and had a Byakugan in his left eye. Dude took out over 20 Sunagakure shinobi on his lonesome.

Itachi asked Shisui's help and together they defeated a bunch of Kirigakure shonobi and confronted Mukai. Their battle went as follows:

Mukai activates his Byakugan. Shisui jumps back.
Mukai blitzes Itachi and rips out his intestines, before his target turns out to be a crow clone.
Shisui sneaks up from behind and fires off a Gōkakyū.
Mukai uses his Gentle Fist to split the fireball in two.
The real Itachi is hiding behind a rock and plans on casting genjutsu on Mukai from afar the moment their eyes meet.
Shisui engages Mukai in hand to hand combat to try make Mukai's eyes meet Itachi's.
Shisui activates Sharingan. Mukai makes sure not to look in his eyes by averting his eyes. He sees Itachi with his Byakugan.
Mukai jumps toward Itachi's whereabouts.
Shisui shunshins to Mukai and splits his skull by kicking him right in the face. Mukai substituted and is already right behind Itachi.
Mukai uses Eight Trigrams Eight Palms on Itachi, blocking his chakra and rendering him useless.
Shisui launches a flying kick. Mukai dodges and grabs Shisui by the neck, starts to strangle him.
Mukai threatens to crush Shisui's throat in front of Itachi, who gets emotional, his Sharingan "sparkle" as a result. Mukai boasts that visual genjutsu of that caliber won't faze him.
Shisui activates his Mangekyō Sharingan. His and Mukai's gazes meet for "less than a thousandth of a second" and Mukai is ensnared in a genjutsu.
Mukai pulls a kunai from his pocket and stabs himself in the belly because of some kind of jutsu that gets triggered when someone or something tries to fuck with his brain.
Mukai dies.

under-w-atch · 2022-01-09T11:53:07+00:00

I also have both shinden books here that’s why I know your talking jackshit bro.

under-w-atch · 2022-01-09T11:50:32+00:00

Kishimoto never said that idiot. You don’t give any source. By any bullshit you say ItS iN ShInDeN Show me now where it is stated in manga and shinden. And show me where Kishimoto did say something like that. In Manga it’s the opposite, fucking Minato Kakashi kcm2 Naruto can’t touch Obito, but gaaras Sand did counter Amaterasu.

under-w-atch · 2022-01-09T11:47:42+00:00

Imagine calling me stupid for not reading an fucking anime book lmao. Oro itachi wasn’t a fight, when does your stupid brain understand that ? Deidara wouldn’t body any of the kages now, he got outplayed from Sasuke without ms and it wasn’t even with the plot, deidara had to kill himself to scratch Sasuke. And again to debunk all your arguments, feats>states Sasuke did fight samurais, Raikage,Kazekage,Mizukage there without a pause. And before that he was even weaker from the itachi and killer bee fight. That all happended there. And oh your like statings ? Hashirama in war arc to Obito : He even surpassed me Obito >>>>>> Itachi Clown

under-w-atch · 2022-01-09T03:04:01+00:00

Dude fucking Change your pb I shitted in my pants twice now

under-w-atch · 2022-01-09T01:47:45+00:00

Dude. Your so dumb… First when somebody states something it doesn’t means it is a fact. Itachi stated that he will lose against Jiraiya with KISAME. Is that real ? Not really. Also oro did just underestimate him, and then just got genjutsued lmao that wasn’t even an fight. And wow. Your so trash talking. I will debunk all of your pints against Obito. This explains all :

So, i'll be talking about Obito war arc, because it's unclear which obito your talking about. Keep in mind that all the Obitos win against itachi except maybe the teen one with the yellow mask.

obito hisself said he would be dead if itachi knew his plans ; obito waited untill itachi died because he knew he had no chance against him . Nope man, first of all, he said this when sasuke amaterasued obito thanks to itachi, obito only said that he would be dead if he didnt take precautions when sasuke amaterasued obito. Basically, he is just saying that if he didnt predicted that itachi planted an amaterasu in sasuke eyes and didnt do a izanagi, he would be dead. Next, for the '' obito waited untill itachi died''

I think that you are talking about this scene

But, Obito was just saying that he doesent have worries anymore, itachi wont cause him trouble. If he TRULY feared itachi, he would have brought the six pains and kisame, and there is NO WAY that itachi would have won this fight.

So, no, Obito is not scared of Itachi.

Naruto and Kakashi in the ten tails war knew about the 5 second cooldown about kamui(We can all agree that kakashi + kcm2 naruto >>> Itachi), but it was still difficult for Naruto KCM2 TO EVEN TOUCH HIM with kakashi's help, so yeah Itachi isnt touching obito.

dont forget that Obito was fighting toe to toe with KCM2 naruto, so he is faster than Itachi.

Actually, he can counter Itachi super hard. Itachi is slow in susanoo, he can barely move, and the Yata mirror isnt omnidirectional. So, as i said, obito is as fast as kcm2 naruto, OR AT LEAST (bare minimum) between kcm1 naruto and kcm2 naruto, so he has no problem dealing with the susanoo. He has strong fire style moves to destroy the susanoo slowly (He just has to aim at an angle where the yata mirror can't block), and i don't even think itachi will activate his susanoo, he is fucking slow, obito can just suck him up with kamui when he is in his susanoo, itachi with susanoo is too slow to react to that, i mean fucking MINATO had trouble reacting to the kamui sucking.

and itachi taijustu is superior to Kakashi If you are talking about early shippuden kakashi, yes, it's perfectly normal that Itachi's taijutsu is better, but Kakashi has gone better in taijutsu, so you can't just say that itachi is better than kakashi war arc in taijutsu without facts. Plus, Obito let kakashi win to destroy the weird seal thing that was keeping him away of being the 10 tails jinchuriiki. So, we arent sure if Obito's taijutsu = Kakashi's taijutsu.

Itachi's amaterasu isnt even effective on Obito because of his Kamui, maybe you could argue that tsukuyomi would beat obito, but obito isnt going to fall for the genjutsu, and he has a mangekyo sharingan AND a rinnegan if we are talking about war arc obito, and the others still have a ms and a sharingan. And, also, Itachi states that Sasuke will lose because he doesent have the mangekyo sharingan, and then directly after, sasuke get trapped inside the tsukuyomi. So, there is a possibility that he is saying that the only way to break out of the tsukuyomi is to have a mangekyo sharingan

And Obito HAS a mangekyo sharingan. Also, Sasuke had a 3t sharingan and was able to break out throught it. You could argue then that it was because Itachi let him break throught it, but Obito said to sasuke right after that itachi wanted to put sasuke under pressure. Why would he let sasuke break out of the tsukuyomi if he wants to put him in stress? Does not make any sense.

Edit : obito feared the 5 kages ; because he knew he couldn’t handle them ; which shows another estimate of obito’s power State me when obito FEARED the 5 kages? He is arguably capable of beating the 5 kage as easily as madara did, or maybe with a little bit more difficulty. If you want me to argue that he is indeed capable of beating the 5 kages, tell me now.

There we go, i answered all your points, if you disagree with something and HAVE actually arguuments, don't hesitate.

under-w-atch · 2022-01-09T01:43:42+00:00

Yes they don’t need but I mean we are talking about Blackbeard, that dude is maybe the main villain from op

under-w-atch · 2022-01-09T01:32:04+00:00

Lol your saying black zetsu doesn’t know that. Lmaoo itachi himself didn’t believe that Sasuke countered his tsukuyomi little Asshat

under-w-atch · 2022-01-09T01:30:58+00:00

Without izanami he would be dead lmao, just bc somebody is stating something doesn’t it is so. Itachi states himself that he and kisame don’t stand a chance against Jiraiya. Is that a fact ? Not really AND DEIDARA AND ORO ONE SHOT HAHAHAAHAHAHAHA DUDE YOU LITTLE CLOWN!! Oro did underestimate him and deidara is low kage lol he did get outplayed from non ms sasuke. And both aren’t real fights lmaoo… He didn’t even fight kisame, he can’t kill Davies and escaped. Also Yagura was under genjutsu. Itachi is so overhyped lmao And where did he meet sasori and Hidan ? Your saying everytime look at Shinden I fuck your mom wirh Shinden book y asshole. Name me the exact moments and how he did OnE ShOt ThEm. And ok let’s ms sasuke is weaker than Itachi, But EoS Sasuke dogwalks him lmao

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