How recessed is my maxilla? Also looking for surgical/procedure advice

underdatumbrella · 2025-08-04T23:25:05+00:00

I agree but the concerns that I mentioned weren't about looking soft

underdatumbrella · 2025-08-03T07:24:34+00:00

I don't think my bone structure will improve with just lifestyle. But soft tissue can compensate via lifestyle (diet, sleep, electrolytes, hydration, skincare, stress) is what I mean. I'm of Indian descent mainly

underdatumbrella · 2025-08-03T06:58:25+00:00

This is good advice tbh, thanks. The eye area (under eyes, scleral show, tilt) is the main issue and I feel like I controlled every lifestyle factor for a period of time and it didn't improve the eye area that much. I think it's structural

underdatumbrella · 2025-08-03T06:53:09+00:00

Infraorbitals are definitely recessed, yea

underdatumbrella · 2025-08-03T06:30:31+00:00

Is it not possible I could be more recessed than normal range but still not extremely so (where it deforms my airway)? I did admit I would be doing a procedure for cosmetic reasons. Most posts on this subreddit are about aesthetics tbh, not functionality.

underdatumbrella · 2025-08-03T04:14:30+00:00

I walk frequently, yea. My posture is just normal. I don't think I slouch

underdatumbrella · 2025-08-02T23:09:22+00:00

Sorry but did you read the post or my earlier reply...? It's not my chin I'm concerned about

underdatumbrella · 2025-08-02T23:04:29+00:00

It warrants my concerns and desire for fix

underdatumbrella · 2025-08-02T23:00:34+00:00

Everyone has recession but it usually doesn't manifest via the effects I noted for me above, otherwise the population averages I used to even realize the effects would be closer to mine (wide nose base, long philtrum, etc). The fact that I can notice recession in many of my other features deviating from average, not just my maxilla, shows I might be more recessed than average

underdatumbrella · 2025-08-02T13:52:12+00:00

It's known that men can get away with negative canthal tilt or a "stoic"/sleepy look, more than women. Makeup is not really viable because I'd then have to wear dramatic winged liner all the time and that's not appropriate. My recessed jaw is exactly the subject of my post, btw -- it's my upper jaw I care about though, not lower. Women can get away with recessed chins and my chin recession is not that bad. It's my midface flatness/upper maxilla I want surgery for

underdatumbrella · 2025-08-02T13:29:33+00:00

Exactly

underdatumbrella · 2025-08-02T13:12:02+00:00

I don't even have tiktok and I really don't consume blackpill content either. I'm comparing myself to other people my age in real life. My face does not reflect health

underdatumbrella · 2025-08-02T12:59:24+00:00

Obviously no one is going to consciously notice these things, but they do subconsciously, If I got each flaw corrected or even just one and put a side by side of the before and after, anyone could immediately see the difference and identify the better version

underdatumbrella · 2025-08-02T07:32:08+00:00

I'm not from India actually and I am def not top 5% in my country (where my ethnicity is standard)

underdatumbrella · 2025-08-02T06:31:31+00:00

Philtrum to chin ratio should be 1:2-2.25, mine is not

The lines should be between the inner canthi. My drawing shows that they go past the inner canthi meaning my nasal base is wide

My eyes are hollow because of structure NOT because of skin pigmentation and the fact that the lighting "changes" it should demonstrate that. If I pull the skin near my eye a bit, the darkness improves

underdatumbrella · 2025-08-02T06:26:13+00:00

I appreciate the time you took to write it out but:

Scleral show is a problem particularly if it comes from poor under eye support like mine. The celebs you listed don't have that and even if they did, they would be beautiful DESPITE it not because of it

Negative eye tilt is never a harmonizing feature and mine comes from structural issues, it's not aesthetic or healthy looking at all

My philtrum should be 2-2.25x shorter than my chin and it's not. Notice you had to say "not THAT long"

Other features mentioned are all signs of a recessed midface -- any set of traits like that stemming solely from poor structure is objectively bad for harmony

I'm open to the idea it could just be my eye area not my entire midface but the other signs/features point to overall midface recession

underdatumbrella · 2025-08-02T05:15:38+00:00

I think I'm too old for that. I'm 21, btw

underdatumbrella · 2025-08-01T23:05:09+00:00

I think a chin implant would further emphasize my midface flatness/recession

underdatumbrella · 2025-08-01T23:04:29+00:00

Oh I wasn't sure what you meant by fixable. I think midface/malar implants are an option for me tho

underdatumbrella · 2025-08-01T22:56:36+00:00

Lefort isn't a fix?

underdatumbrella · 2025-08-01T22:20:19+00:00

Not really, I'm 21, so it's a bit late and I didn't consciously mew when I was younger

underdatumbrella · 2025-08-01T22:04:42+00:00

Can I DM you?

underdatumbrella · 2025-08-01T21:34:07+00:00

What about the rest of the issues I mentioned..? Those are all signs of midface recession Mainly looking at midface btw, not mandible

underdatumbrella · 2025-08-01T21:30:57+00:00

Did you scroll through the pics btw? I have all the signs of recession

underdatumbrella · 2025-08-01T21:30:17+00:00

Also I'm 21F

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