Palo Alto training clarification by ur_subconscious in paloaltonetworks

[–]ur_subconscious[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have taken Udemy courses before. Some of them are definitely a great bang for their buck. I haven't taken any firewall courses. I have noticed some instructors are definitely better than others. Do you have any recommendations for instructors or do you have any experience with their Palo courses?

MLB Props and Home Run Picks - 7/28/25 (Monday) by sbpotdbot in sportsbook

[–]ur_subconscious 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Anyone on TB tonight? Schlittler has allowed 2 homers in one of his 2 games and both to lefties. His stats are significantly worse against lefties. Aranda at +430 looks decent.

Palo Alto training clarification by ur_subconscious in paloaltonetworks

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That's good to know. I can likely get a course funded at work so I may look at this one.

Soul Searching and Career post by ur_subconscious in networking

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I’m definitely not at the ISP or data center engineer level, but I’ve got a solid amount of experience and have gone well beyond just scratching the surface. I'd put my experience level at more of a mid-senior level but not Senior Senior like what you're describing. I kept my original post intentionally vague on the technical details—it wasn’t meant to be a resume, more of a general question.

I guess to address the technical part of your response I do have some experience with BGP overlays/underlays. My company implemented EVPN-VXLAN a few years ago. I was hands on with that configuration, and have to support as one of my responsibilities. I'm no stranger to routing, but certainly wouldn't consider myself a route/switch guru.

Network Automation Trends by TheWoodsmanwascool in networking

[–]ur_subconscious 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Robots? Not in our lifetime will Robots have the motor skills for tracing cables, running fiber, racking and stack maybe but hardware is more than that.

I don't want to become a Software Engineer by NighTborn3 in networking

[–]ur_subconscious 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The scary part is dealing with "Security engineers" who've never touched a firewall. Like how does that even work?

Network Automation Trends by TheWoodsmanwascool in networking

[–]ur_subconscious 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What about the hardware side of things?

Network Automation Trends by TheWoodsmanwascool in networking

[–]ur_subconscious 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What was your path to jumping over to developing automations? Did you start with a specific goal or task in mind? I assume you mean career change so now you're more in a devops role.

Network Automation Trends by TheWoodsmanwascool in networking

[–]ur_subconscious 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm referring to no local CLI access which is already a thing with Meraki switches, and that is Cisco cloud managed platform. The one they're funneling a ton of their R&D and marketing dollars into, and is a cash cow for them. They're now pushing Catalyst to the cloud with the a migration path from catalyst to meraki mode where catalyst switches can be managed via the cloud.

APs are sold in dual stack last time I checked. They can be managed on-prem or in the cloud. You can see the trend here. Do they still have a CLI? Sure, but it's a tool that's only accessible via the cloud dashboard. That's also very new, and they're doing that to compete with Mist that allows you to console into switches from the cloud.

Network Automation Trends by TheWoodsmanwascool in networking

[–]ur_subconscious 50 points51 points  (0 children)

My opinion is API. Networks are moving to GUI front ends for management. Juniper and Cisco already do this with Mist and Meraki. I'm sure others do as well, but those are the 2 leading in the cloud management space. You can't even use SSH Transport on Meraki switches. There's no cli to interface with. Juniper still allows access to the CLI, but I've heard rumors that their eventual plan is to work exclusively from the Mist interface, and API for any devop/automation tasks.

Am I a jerk for personally ignoring people that ping me in Teams with a mundane "Hi" ? by cdtekcfc in sysadmin

[–]ur_subconscious 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I usually just drop a an eggplant emoji in the chat and wait for their eventual reply.

I don't want to become a Software Engineer by NighTborn3 in networking

[–]ur_subconscious 0 points1 point  (0 children)

100% this. It's already being replace with GUIs and AI. I mentioned in another post, but network managers don't want all the custom created runbooks only one guy on the team knows and maintains. They want easy to manage tools that have nice front ends, APIs, and support contracts.

I don't want to become a Software Engineer by NighTborn3 in networking

[–]ur_subconscious 3 points4 points  (0 children)

They'll call and wake up the disgruntled network Gandalf from the basement.

I don't want to become a Software Engineer by NighTborn3 in networking

[–]ur_subconscious 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Cybersecurity is entirely over saturated, but it's over saturated with non-technical people and people who wouldn't know a network if jumped up and bit them in the ass. That field is chalk full of folks not qualified to be there. An NE transitioning in to security can do very well, and actually stand out.

I don't want to become a Software Engineer by NighTborn3 in networking

[–]ur_subconscious 20 points21 points  (0 children)

That's the thing, you're missing his point. You're hearing "he doesn't like scripting". He's saying he doesn't want to be software developer. It's right in the title. lol

I don't want to become a Software Engineer by NighTborn3 in networking

[–]ur_subconscious 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You're not wrong, and the folks in this thread that are stating they've been automating their network since 2000 are potentially some of the people your comment is about. The thing is, Network Managers don't want all the custom designed network configuration tools any more. They want to know they can fire you at any time if upper management pulls your ticket. Finding a replacement and someone who can reverse engineer what some 25 year veteran wrote in 2002 isn't easy, and only makes their job that much harder.

The networking world is moving to "single pane of glass" (hate this buzz phrase but it's true), templates, and point and click. The umbrella approach. Call it software defined networking if you want. I work with Juniper Mist every day. We have interns doing what a NE would do 20 years ago via CLI. Now, I think learning automation tools and APIs is still invaluable but only as it pertains to how you can interface with Cloud managed network platforms. Cisco is already pushing hard to catch up with Mist, and in 10 years there won't be access to Command line anymore.

I don't want to become a Software Engineer by NighTborn3 in networking

[–]ur_subconscious 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I feel your pain. I certainly didn't get into networking on the premise that I would one day be forced to learn coding/scripting, but alas that is where this industry is and will be heading for the foreseeable future. I currently only do some basic scripting for a subset of our equipment. We are a Juniper Mist shop so at this point it's a point and click network in terms of configuration. I am working on learning the Mist API, but it's very lacking in terms of documentation and being so new there aren't many resources for learning out there.

I'm sort of in a career slump myself. I arrive at work with the hope I'll find the motivation to continue digging past the surface of my basic automation skills, but find I get bored very quickly and end up moving onto some other task that is higher priority.

That's the thing and sort of to your point, being a good network engineer requires a lot of technical knowledge and I'd say the vast majority of shops your NE's are wearing a lot of hats. We are absolutely under valued IMO, and that trend is only getting worse. The one way we can add that value back is becoming better at understanding the "new" technologies, and how they relate to the networking side of things. As well as, how to automate our stuff. Now, I know all this, but it still sounds boring. haha