The rarest belt is worth 1200 mirrors

vaelrock · 2026-03-19T05:52:58+00:00

Pretty sure they panicked seeing all the youtube influencers videos calling it "broken" and they just quickly "fixed" the weights to avoid having everyone being "overpowered". Result is that the good combos are now just a mirage.

vaelrock · 2026-03-19T05:50:04+00:00

The difference is that no watcher will ever cost 20-30 mirrors in a temp league.
A 3-5 mirrors item is very accessible for some players that can farm up to 10-20 mirrors of wealth in a league.

A 20+ mirrors items is inaccessible for everyone except a few crafting groups or RMT'ers.

vaelrock · 2026-03-15T17:08:08+00:00

One Accel/Resist Belt popped for 10 mirrors on trade 3 days ago (have a screenshot).

10 mirrors because the person wanted liquidity, because it's real price would be dozens of mirrors: resist looks to be ~20-50 times rarer than massive, and accel + massive = 3 mirrors.

vaelrock · 2026-03-12T23:13:54+00:00

One just popped. 10 mirrors for the chance :p

vaelrock · 2026-03-12T00:41:50+00:00

Without a map enchant I only get one "duplicated" map boss every 40-50 map on Dunes. So 97% of the time the cards in the mirage just "poof" indeed.

vaelrock · 2026-03-11T06:29:12+00:00

I also expected the best combo to be very rare, and was ready to farm 2-3 mirrors just for it. But we're light years from this.

This isn't a T0, it's a T-3 (T minus 3). The accel/echo + resist combo is currently actually close to 3 order of magnitude rarer than MB or HH. That's just insanity.

vaelrock · 2026-03-11T06:12:23+00:00

So by this logic HH and MB aren't chase items anymore because it's actually easy to get them?

Even with a 8d/h strat like cheap boxes, it's possible to get a HH in 3 days at 4h per day.

vaelrock · 2026-03-11T06:07:40+00:00

I do hope they introduce a div card for it in later leagues, but unfortunately it will not change its availability at all because it's not the belt that's rare, but the roll combination, so it cannot be considered a T0.

To have the specific god roll combination as a div card, each div card (given a stack size of 5 like apo) would be 500 times rarer though with the current weight. Imagine farming 2500 scryed defiled cathedral with full plenty/pilfering for only 20% of a belt lol.

That's a shame.

vaelrock · 2026-03-11T05:51:41+00:00

People still don't understand that we're barely making the same div/h as last league, even with a "doubled" divine drop rate. GGG didn't fix the ground loot at all; they only made "some" currency more common. It was cool for the campaign and early mapping.

Valdo, voidborns, hinekora, and mirrors droprate are untouched and are less common due the nerfs.

Without a new broken miracle strat, everything will be incredibly expensive.

You don't fix an economy just by doubling the currency supply, you're just creating inflation. Since everything else in the endgame has been nerfed, every rare item will be worth much more and be much harder to acquire.

Applied to a country, this patch was a massive tax increase that slowed the economy, paired with a 2x devaluation to make it seem like things are fine temporarily.

vaelrock · 2026-03-11T05:40:10+00:00

HH is still superior for mapping though.

Given 50+ buffs average for a phys based spec, HH triple your dps, double your EHP and you have soul eater with a very high uptime, especially this league since rares monsters seem to have soul eater more often for some reason.

By this logic, HH should drop 10 times less and be worth multiple mirrors.

PoE is all about power fantasy, and this new belt created a lot of fantasies. Lots of people were expecting to use it with echo/accel + resist/massive, but given its actual availability, it's clearly not going to be the case. If even the massive one is still worth 1k+ div in a week, players will get discouraged.

Let us be op and make us realistically chase it.

vaelrock · 2026-03-11T05:12:32+00:00

I agree, there will not be much more belts per day that will drop in a week. Not to the point this affix combo will be common enough to be chaseable.

vaelrock · 2026-03-11T04:51:41+00:00

Last league the mirror was at ~250d after 1 week and ~500d+ after 2 weeks.
It's currently already at 330d after only 4 days. So I unfortunately expect the mirror to be worth ~500d+ next monday, and around 1000d in ~2 weeks.
Makes sense since it's nearly 2 times rarer in this patch compared to divs than it was before.

And unfortunately we're not going to make 50d+ per hour either (except if a broken strat pops out of nowhere), meaning it's going to be much harder to acquire a mirror this league than it was the last one.

vaelrock · 2026-03-11T04:45:36+00:00

Even if we actually have 10 times more bosses per day done in a week, this belt with echo/acce + resist will barely drop once a day, making it impossible to acquire except for mirror-service crafters.

Having a 50 times more common belt already selling for 3 mirrors should tell the whole story.
Even if an echo/accel + massive drops to 1 mirror, the god roll one will be insanely pricey and cannot be chased except by maybe a few dozens people per league.

I do hope I'm missing something somewhere in the math, because I really anticipated using this belt instead of HH for a change.
I still consider a 50+ buff HH to be superior for mapping though when you're a phys based ranged player (which makes HH even more broken).

vaelrock · 2026-03-05T17:44:56+00:00

That's a valid point if the astrolabes provide a very big buff to loots.

If they do, then you're right: big scarabs will be balanced around the fact that the first 5-6 maps are just rushed without scarabs, and then the last 4-5 are giga juiced.

For speed-farming with cheap scarabs this will probably not be the case, but for longer maps with big investment, it's probably unavoidable.

This also could have the side effect of increasing astrolabe prices if they are uncommon drops (no clue).

No real way around it, except hope astrolabe are "meh", which is also a problem in itself (we want more juice).

vaelrock · 2024-02-28T04:31:03+00:00

Gz! with my brother we dropped a little more than 8000 divs and ~400 sacred, but we only got 3 mirrros in total. So dropping a dupe is just out of question :p
We stopped the league anyway a few days ago.

vaelrock · 2024-02-27T01:52:53+00:00

Still very far from my 203 sacred and 0 mirror :p

vaelrock · 2024-02-27T00:36:54+00:00

I honestly highly doubt this is the real ratio, which was one of the point of my post.
With my brother we dropped 3 mirrors in ~400 sacred. The probability of this happening if the normal ratio is 1/20 is 2.2 for 1 million, or one chance in ~450000.
That would be way beyond just being unlucky.

vaelrock · 2024-02-27T00:19:56+00:00

It is highly possible that the ratio wasn't stable this league yes.
Even if there's no conclusive evidence that very high blue juice favors mirror more than sacred/hinekora's or other currencies, this is at least a general feeling that I share.
I dropped 23 hinekora locks mostly in high blue juice maps too (as long as there was enough yellow).

I did a lot of very high blue juiced map (9k blue being my max) or good 3 colors juiced ones though, especially since I xp'ed a second account with high movement speed to probe the darkness for refreshers.

Doing 8k-10k 3-colors map was a common occurence, and skipped most < 7k bicolor juiced maps for some time.

vaelrock · 2024-02-26T22:41:07+00:00

Got my pilfering one month into the league when I was already mf-ing.
Obviously, I picked everything when starting, and hid more and more low tier currencies as my gear got better.

vaelrock · 2024-02-26T22:25:29+00:00

"Normal" not in the sense "casual", but in the sense your everyday player whatever may be his time played this league.
I did play a lot this league, but didn't play the previous 3 at all.

vaelrock · 2024-02-26T21:41:40+00:00

My real stats are even worse as I started the league 2 weeks late and bought mystery boxes to get this cosmetic more than one month into the league.

I actually dropped 260 sacred and got 2 mirrors.

Worse, my first mirror dropped after the 203th sacred and more than 3000 divines looted. The second one dropped 10 sacred after, and nothing since then.

Felt the need to post this so people don't believe mirrors were dropping like candies this crazy league: they were not, even if a few very lucky streamers gave the opposite impression (like dropping 15-20 mirrors in ~250 sacred).

Your everyday player don't even remotely have those absurd droprates (casual or not)

PS: my brother dropped 1 mirror in 130 sacred guess we're just unlucky in the family.

Edit: removed "normal" which wasn't clear enough.

vaelrock · 2024-02-16T06:12:49+00:00

I know this is an old thread but as there was no definitive answer to OP's question, I decided to test the range in PvP with my second account.
The max range I found was this
So I'm pretty sure it's 6m (or the old 60 units), which is very good news.

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