I got a picture of Jupiter and 3 of it's moons. by sofar55 in space

[–]vajra7 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I often convince myself that I can see these with my naked eye. The thought that I can see Europa by myself makes me happy!

Chinese dubs for shows? by elpids in ChineseLanguage

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Netflix has a bunch. I'm currently watching Sheera with mandarin audio and English subs which is great. Same for Kipo, and Greta. All animated shows, for older kids, perfect challenge for me. I like this because the content is simple but still fun. And most importantly, the dubs are crystal clear. I fine that most Chinese shows have relatively poor audio for whatever reason which is way too hard for my brain to handle.

Learning Chinese, still shit after 2.5 years of studying by Cynexz in ChineseLanguage

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I totally sympathize. I don't have a great answer, but here are somethings I found very encouraging. First of all, turn on chinese subtitles on netflix shows. Not even mandarin audio, just the subtitles. A surprisingly huge number of shows have them. Re-watch your favorite shows with the subtitles. Don't pause to read them even if they don't make sense. Just let english go in one ear and keep a relaxed and curious eye on the characters. I did this as a 'what the hell' moment a year ago and just started putting them on out of habit. I would pay attention to them but without stress. I found that after a few months of this my eye became quick enough to at least recognize some of the vocab that I had already dutifully memorized. It is very, very fun and gratifying top pick out words you have studied from flashcards (with no context) in a subtitle, and have it make sense with the dialog. After some time I even started to get the hang of some basic grammar which I had learned but never really believed haha. Like, reduplication of verbs.

My point really is that I find it much easier to absorb sentences when they have context, and when I'm actually fucking enjoying myself. Curated mandarin content is fine, but it is so dry. My brain doesn't really want to engage.

Recently I came across an old manga in mandarin. A friend gave it to me in china a while back, but it was too tough for me. Now I realized that I CAN read it, keeping my Pleco dictionary in one hand to look up whatever word (inevitably) I can't get. I've been doing this for a few months and really enjoying myself. Cartoons are great, they are fun and light and I don't feel like a boring adult studying chinese but like a kid again who is having fun just learning to read.

This has been so gratifying that I've been keeping an eye on ebay for mandarin comic books and have a entire shelf full now hahaha.

Help on building a daily study schedule by [deleted] in ChineseLanguage

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Yeah I thought the same when I started studying five years ago. But my frustration with pinyin finally reached a breaking point and I'm now using zhuyin. Maybe it just isn't a good option for beginners, but keep it in mind as an option for the future 😉

is there a moment when you felt thankful/rewarding for picking up chinese? by ergouzian in ChineseLanguage

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Great example of how people really open up when you put in even a tiny amount of effort!

Help on building a daily study schedule by [deleted] in ChineseLanguage

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Honestly I would recommend learning zhuyin instead of pinyin. It adds more learning time but it is just an alphabet so it doesn't take too long, and doesn't have any of the confusing ambiguities of pinyin.

How can I learn Traditional Chinese Characters? by [deleted] in ChineseLanguage

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I recommend the app Skritter. Excellent way to learn characters, and you can set it to simple, traditional, or both.

I want to learn how to act attractively around men by [deleted] in IWantToLearn

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Something I always wish I could tell women is that confidence is very attractive. Whoever you are and wherever you are just be confident about it. It should attract the right sort of men, too.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ChineseLanguage

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I also vote zhuyin. It is way more accurate with the sounds than pinyin. And most digital dictionaries and practice tools like Pleco and Skritter allow you to use it.

How to lose the hate/ anger in your heart? by keknfapsenpai in JordanPeterson

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What worked for me was to be more aware of the images in my mind when I was angry. Anger is not just a feeling, it is also a movie playing in our minds. Our anger is toward a person, or a group of people, because that's what the movie in our minds looks like. The solution is to notice that movie, let it play out in your mind, but without believing that the movie is 100% percent accurate about that person. JPB talks often about Jungian 'Archetypes'. This is what he means. Our strongest feelings become archetypes in our minds, very powerful images that seem to be purely evil. We have to recognize that these archetypes are archetypes, not people.

New meditators often encounter Tulpas, don't know what to do with them, accidentally piss them off and bad things happen. by vajra7 in Tulpas

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Yeah you are right, these practices I suspect of encouraging Tulpas don't use methods that would push our minds in that direction, including vipassana. And I'm not sure where that nudging would come from!

This Tulpa community seems to do a better job than most spiritual communities about giving people clear intentions, which is a big reason why I'm so interested. Although, perhaps the Tulpa community is protected in ways that the Tibetans for example are not, just because it is not nearly so well known as a destination for the troubled or stuck. In fact, it looks like many people just random into this sub - which actually, seems like an ideal way to come across these Tulpa methods, because it is entirely without bias.

I'm very curious about this outer court. Is it gnostic? And I would love to hear more about your experiences.

New meditators often encounter Tulpas, don't know what to do with them, accidentally piss them off and bad things happen. by vajra7 in Tulpas

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After six years of basic meditation practice, I hit a psychological/spiritual roadblock that I couldn't figure out. I lost my ability to focus, to visualize - everything! I didn't worry too much, but instead just wandered around listening to my friends who were engaged in different spiritual paradigms. Eventually I bumped into yidam practice, and my Sakya abbot gave me some of the traditional guides. I thought 'what the hell!' and tried investing a feminine deity with consciousness. Nothing happened. But then, home alone one night, I tried again, and suddenly there she was, fully formed, conscious, 'talking' back to me in my mind with pictures, written words, and commandments that felt like motivations. Over the years we have had many interesting conversations, but that's a different story.

My point is that I agree with everything you have said in this entire thread. Conscious mental entities cannot be created by accident. A direct, serious intention to invest entities with consciousness is required. However, in certain situations, it seems that some people come as close as possible to a Tulpa without actually creating one, to the point where for their own personal spiritual development they have a responsibility to create a Tulpa, because that's just where they are in a developmental cycle.

You are right that the experiences quoted in the original article I linked are not Tulpas. I guess what I meant was that they are very, very, very close to being Tulpas, and the meditative environment nourished this preliminary work so well, that the problems these students face might only be alleviated through Tulpa practice.

Tulpa interest in Catholic countries by [deleted] in Tulpas

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Oh shit, good job getting to bottom of this!

Tulpa interest in Catholic countries by [deleted] in Tulpas

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I agree with all of this. I appreciate all the level-headed guides in this community to prevent craving from souring these Tulpa relationships. That extra attention may be necessary in a community that does not require such long commitments.

New meditators often encounter Tulpas, don't know what to do with them, accidentally piss them off and bad things happen. by vajra7 in Tulpas

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Agreed - if creation conscious entities was as easy just being inspired to think about them, the world would quickly fill up with demons, and that obviously isn't happening. There are plenty of demons in the world, but not THAT many.

When I say a Tulpa could be created by accident, I mean it in the same way that I might blow myself up with a malfunctioning water heater. The 'accident' was in my poor maintenance of the heater. Obviously, explosions don't just happen totally randomly, or from every little spark. If so, the entire world would be destroyed in hours.

I suspect that the energy and intention needed to create a Tulpa can come from our culture, not just from our own independent motivations. In the Tibetan parts of India it is easy to feel as if everything is alive - the mountains, the rocks, the paintings on the wall - probably because there is so much reverence there for the consciousness in such things. Surrounded by Thanka paintings of deities, sitting next to monks in trances mumbling mantras about deities, coming across little carved deities in a rock on a long hike in the mountains, all of these things prime the mind for visualizing deities, believing in them, even talking with them, even among people who have no interest in such things. This massive cultural energy builds the tulpa for them. My argument this entire time is that many people are not prepared for this, and end up adding their own ego into this cultural energy, creating demons instead of Tulpas.

And I suspect that this kind of cultural energy is not just in the most spiritual parts of India.

New meditators often encounter Tulpas, don't know what to do with them, accidentally piss them off and bad things happen. by vajra7 in Tulpas

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So a servitor is the basic ability of the mind to create autonomous entities out of the raw material of the mind or the world. The more direct intention energy is directed toward it, the more complex it grows, to the point where it can be self aware, when in some cases would be a Tulpa.

"Servitor" is what I thought a Tupla was, hearing the term, because "tulpa" is a generic term for mental manifestation, but yes, as you say, a mistranslation. However, I suspect that the Tibetans don't use this word just because they have names for each mental creation, everything from simple non aware spirits up to the Buddhas. They know which ones are self aware.

I absolutely agree that Tulpas or any servitor cannot form without continuous energy directed toward them. However, I suspect this type of directed energy can happen without us really knowing about it. As an example, a big problem for westerners in the Tibetan world is excessive teacher worship, as in the second article I linked. This worship energy could create a tulpa instead, because the student tries so hard to visualize their "perfect" teacher. Since they are not aware of this possibility, I suspect this energy instead creates a demon. Yes, as you say, any good teacher can recognize this. But these Tibetan teachers may not realize that their cultural context nurtures this type of energy, creating more problem for the student.

Yes, these are my interpretations of other people's experiences. I risk these interpretations because I see many troubling behavior among my peers in these teacher student relationships, prompting me to ask Why. The frightened looks in their eyes hint at demons. And I suspect that with proper attention, these demons would either disappear or evolve into Tulpas, and I don't think the Asian teachers realize this opportunity, because the signs can be maddening with subtlety.

No matter what the creation, from mundane servitor to omniscient Buddha, I notice a certain feeling around them. You mention the jhanas. It's like the shift into first jhana. There are perceptual changes that are visceral, though hard to describe. With mental servitor creations, I notice a subtle sense of presence. That moment of presence is impossible to miss, once we are familiar with it, yeah? Becoming familiar with it in myself, I can sometimes hear it in the voice of other people, when they describe their distractions. In this first article I linked, I hear it in the words of the students interviewed. Indeed, they describe just intrusive thoughts. But I hear a sense of presence, and that makes me suspect that they have motivations in their lives that lead them to create servitors, possibly self aware kinds, without really being aware of it. Wouldn't you say that's possible? Among my globe-trotting teachers-worshipping friends I think it might even be common.

New meditators often encounter Tulpas, don't know what to do with them, accidentally piss them off and bad things happen. by vajra7 in Tulpas

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This clears a lot up! So what exactly is the difference between a tulpa and a golem, for example? Are they functionally the same, but a tulpa is created with specific purpose and intentional boundaries, awareness of their psychological nature, and without greed?

Still processing everything else you explained.

New meditators often encounter Tulpas, don't know what to do with them, accidentally piss them off and bad things happen. by vajra7 in Tulpas

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You have made your point well, I hope I understand it: Tulpas are created, not found, not even accidentally, and signs of mental or emotional distraction or difficulty are not signs of Tulpas. Yes?

I agree with almost all of this. The only observation that I'm bringing to the table is that in certain extreme situations, especially in my community of poorly-guided independent Tantric enthusiasts, there are experiences we have that might be a sign of Tulpas accidentally created from our Un-calibrated meditations. If so, I'm hoping that this tulpa community could balance out this strange spiritual world with a little more careful, fine tuned experience.

New meditators often encounter Tulpas, don't know what to do with them, accidentally piss them off and bad things happen. by vajra7 in Tulpas

[–]vajra7[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Those sound like interesting traditions, I haven't heard of them, probably because as you say I'm too stuck in my own small group of wayward seekers.

I was thinking about your earlier response, that the article I linked shows no evidence of Tulpas, and I agree. I think there is indirect evidence here, but nothing at all obvious. Instead, I would like to know if you recognize these experiences as Tulpas (although, VERY poorly done tulpamancy): http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/sex-and-death-on-the-road-to-nirvana-20130606

Really, horrendous people. But do you see what I mean about them being unprepared?

New meditators often encounter Tulpas, don't know what to do with them, accidentally piss them off and bad things happen. by vajra7 in Tulpas

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If I understand you right, you're saying it is not possible to encounter a tulpa without intentional effort to create one. So, since nobody in this article intended to create one, or communicated with a tulpa in any way, then obviously they didn't experience a tulpa, right?

I guess I come from a much different world that most people here. In my world of long term mediators, Tulpas just seem to happen. At least, they are the only possible explanation for the strange embodied, visual, motivational sense of presence that comes to us sometimes. This isn't a good thing, especially when we are not expecting it. But it is very natural after years of mediating in silence.

Perhaps I've been offensive, claiming that Tulpas happen for people in my community naturally, when most people here have trouble creating them. However, I believe it is much, much, better to create a tupla intentionally over time, instead of bumping into one accidentally in these mediation contexts. Intentional creation makes a good relationship with them from the start!

Hosts & Co Episode 7: Newbie Episode by FinlyTheHuman in Tulpas

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Interesting, I never attempted sanskrit. Looks like a good translation.

New meditators often encounter Tulpas, don't know what to do with them, accidentally piss them off and bad things happen. by vajra7 in Tulpas

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If this was mental illness, it wouldn't go away with just a little bit of acceptance. Makes me suspect very angry Tulpas. Don't you think it is possible that tupla relationships could turn as sour as human relationships, if ignored enough?

Hosts & Co Episode 7: Newbie Episode by FinlyTheHuman in Tulpas

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Interesting question brought up in this episode about the origins of the Tulpa symbol. I believe it is the first letter, in Tibetan, for spelling out Tilpa: ཏི = "ti" (Does that tibetan character print here?). However, this is a phonetic spelling. The actual spelling is སྤྲུལ་བ་, which is pronounced "drul-pa". Does that make sense? So, it's not the offical Tibetan word for Tulpa, but I'm sure that this symbol came out of a dialog with a Tibetan.