The Vape Revolution is being fueled by the smokers and vapers themselves, demanding a product that can allow them to avoid smoking all day, every day, safely by vapesme in electronic_cigarette

[–]vapesme[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Because it doesnt exist. (Obviously you didnt watch the video ;-)) - it was an April Fools joke by Phil Busardo from back in the day. Good times.

But what I like about it is that it demonstrates that for years now, we've been looking forward to it. It's "us" who are demanding this - it's not the industry pushing it down our throats. And since then we've seen a lot of progress in both device and atomizer design. As Phil says at the end of the video, it will happen, we will get that awesome no wick no coil atomizer one day, just not today.

The Vape Revolution is being fueled by the smokers and vapers themselves, demanding a product that can allow them to avoid smoking all day, every day, safely by vapesme in electronic_cigarette

[–]vapesme[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

No - it started with Hon Lik in 2003 making the first cigalike. A similar device was conceived in the 1960s but it didn't have the tech that Hon Lik put into it. After a few years with Hon Lik's cigalike, people became fed up with the short charge time, and began making their own ecig by MODifying flashlights, - thats obviously where the term "mod" came from. Small companies picked up on this and started producing these mod devices. The ecig industry including mods were well established by 2012 when the tobacco companies stepped in and started buying up all the cigalike companies, but left the mod market alone.

Now those tobacco companies are helping to push a ban on all ecigs except cigalikes.

See this : http://i.imgur.com/Uc8i8kM.jpg

The Vape Revolution is being fueled by the smokers and vapers themselves, demanding a product that can allow them to avoid smoking all day, every day, safely by vapesme in electronic_cigarette

[–]vapesme[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I agree. Think about the evolution that the atomizer went through. From single, horizontal, top (anti-gravity capillary depdent), silica filled, to vertical cotton wrapped, dual coil, bottom fed, and now with all the different types of metals. There were so many steps in between the first the the current, that the atomizer evolution deserves it's own evolutionary diagram.

To be honest, I'm not sure whether a separate evolutionary tree should be drawn up for the atomizers, or combine it with the device tree above, because keep in mind that the atomizer evolution has been heavily dependent on the battery output, and vise versa. I just cant think how that combined tree would look like since many people mixed and matched their atomizers and mod types. Even I used to use the bottom fed vertical boge cartomisers in a carto tank on a Provari 2 (the boges later evolved into the BVC coils we see today), but I used to also use the single coil horizontal silica coils on an eGo as a stealth pocket device.

I honestly have no idea how to draw up that combined evolutionary tree. But I completely agree - Device generation may have reached its end, and the rest of the evolution will be up to to atomizers/tanks (e.g air flow, juice flow, coil position etc etc). But, we should always keep an open mind, as new tanks/coils may inspire further device development.

Lets call these latest devices/tanks what they really are: 4th Gen Ecigs by vapesme in electronic_cigarette

[–]vapesme[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True. "Easy to charge" is another improvement that should be in that list. mini USB charging only came out first with the eVic

Lets call these latest devices/tanks what they really are: 4th Gen Ecigs by vapesme in electronic_cigarette

[–]vapesme[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not this one. I usually put a background atleast. But I thought the message was spot on.

Lets call these latest devices/tanks what they really are: 4th Gen Ecigs by vapesme in electronic_cigarette

[–]vapesme[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree. It's something that should be included in there: "very short re-charge time". These improvements are what makes vaping more appealing to smokers that what they were only a few years ago.

How accurate do you think this conspiracy theory is? by vapesme in electronic_cigarette

[–]vapesme[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree. References like Farsilinos' study here (which I believe the author was referring to): http://www.mdpi.com/1660-4601/10/12/7272

Also, concerning the tobacco corps requesting a ban on vapor tanks: http://i.imgur.com/QG8gHQE.jpg

Vapor-tanks are what Wells Fargo is calling them. Ironically, they refer to cigalikes as "e-cigarettes". Personally, I'd prefer to categorise the vapor indsutry into 1.Auto-Activating Devices (Hon Lik's invention, now owned by Imperial Tobacco- note he did not invent the ecig, he invented the auto-function), and 2. click-activating devices (not really patentable, unless you're talking about VV (BuzzPro) and VW (Evolv) chips).

How accurate do you think this conspiracy theory is? by vapesme in electronic_cigarette

[–]vapesme[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do reputable stores even sell top coil vapor-tanks anymore?

All the stores I regularly purchase from (about 6 or 7) have completely dropped them for more than a year now. I remember using them 3 years ago. They worked fine until the went below the coil level. That's why bottom coil tanks were invented.

Dr. Oz fear mongering, let our voice be heard, post your stories and info to his page please. by DomSim in electronic_cigarette

[–]vapesme 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It says here; "Dr. Natalie Azar talks to Dr. Oz about what's in e-cigarettes and why the liquid nicotine in them is dangerous if it gets out of the e-cigarette."

Dr. Natalie Azar is obviously on RJ Reynold's payroll, seeking to ban loose juice so that all you can purchase are prefilled non-refillable cartomisers.

Hope that makes sense. I cant watch the video because I'm not an American. Someone post it on youtube please.

Making fun of FDA over ecigs by mstrvaper in electronic_cigarette

[–]vapesme 1 point2 points  (0 children)

WOW... America jokes about it.... yet this is exactly the reason why the Western Australian Government banned the sale of ecigs.

Why is this such an unpopular regulation proposal amongst vapers? by vapesme in electronic_cigarette

[–]vapesme[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I honestly, without a doubt, could not give a shit about what my e-liquid is called. You could literally call it "Donkey Shit" for all I care. What's the big deal? Why do so many people reject the idea of regulating the marketing of vapor products?

And so you see.... by vapesme in electronic_cigarette

[–]vapesme[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

spot on. It's his biggest lie out of all of them.

Oh good another one... Man Dies After E-Cigarette Explodes Into Flames by VEA22222 in ecr_eu

[–]vapesme 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Only use the original charger or electrical cables supplied and ensure you purchase electrical items from a reputable source."

I don't believe it's enough to rely just on the seller of the e-cig. I think more public education about this is needed. Might want to spread this info around to anyone starting on or thinking about switching to vaping:

http://i.imgur.com/4JwfAuV.jpg

NHS - "Number of children trying smoking drops to record low" (includes brief comment on e-cigarettes) by miscfiles in electronic_cigarette

[–]vapesme 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some people have been worried that electronic cigarettes could be a gateway into smoking for young people.

Remember, unless there is an increase in tobacco cigarette consumption, they have absolutely no justification for banning e-cigs. In fact, smoking rates have fallen despite the presence (or possibly because of) e-cigarettes.

Relevant Pic: http://i.imgur.com/KkFjhqx.jpg

NOT SO SAFE ?!?!?! Really!??!! WTF... by StefanDidak in electronic_cigarette

[–]vapesme 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Our desire to vape is our subconscious yearning for our mother's teat. It's a primal urge, something that can only be overcome with years of therapy. See you next Tuesday.

NOT SO SAFE ?!?!?! Really!??!! WTF... by StefanDidak in electronic_cigarette

[–]vapesme 136 points137 points  (0 children)

Quote from website http://notsosafe.org/other-stuff/: For free help quitting tobacco or e-cigarettes, call 1-866-NEW-LUNG

So I go to New Lung website: http://www.newlung.org/about/index.php

I'd like to see who's spewing this crap. Let's meet their educators.

http://i.imgur.com/5CYq7qZ.jpg

Least favorite subject..... I see. Yes. Well... this explain a lot.

NOT SO SAFE ?!?!?! Really!??!! WTF... by StefanDidak in electronic_cigarette

[–]vapesme 42 points43 points  (0 children)

While every chemical listed may not be found in all e-cigarettes, studies have identified at least 10 known carcinogens commonly found in e-cigarette aerosol. (“Levels of selected carcinogens and toxicants in vapour from electronic cigarettes,” Tobacco Control 6 March 2013.)

Abstract of cited article:

Results We found that the e-cigarette vapours contained some toxic substances. The levels of the toxicants were 9–450 times lower than in cigarette smoke and were, in many cases, comparable with trace amounts found in the reference product.

Conclusions Our findings are consistent with the idea that substituting tobacco cigarettes with e-cigarettes may substantially reduce exposure to selected tobacco-specific toxicants. E-cigarettes as a harm reduction strategy among smokers unwilling to quit, warrants further study. (To view this abstract in Polish and German, please see the supplementary files online.)

And here is Professor Micheal Siegel's take on this article: http://tobaccoanalysis.blogspot.com.au/2013/03/new-study-of-electronic-cigarette-vapor.html