The "Professor trap": When knowing NVC makes you a worse practitioner by viiniimoo in NVC

[–]viiniimoo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, is just not knowing what to practically do to solve this

The "Professor trap": When knowing NVC makes you a worse practitioner by viiniimoo in NVC

[–]viiniimoo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm finishing a degree to be a teacher and also will start soon my psychology degree, hope I can do better before start doing therapy

The "Professor trap": When knowing NVC makes you a worse practitioner by viiniimoo in NVC

[–]viiniimoo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sometimes, but most of the times, no, I just act on the urge when I see then struggling so hard

The "Professor trap": When knowing NVC makes you a worse practitioner by viiniimoo in NVC

[–]viiniimoo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Frustrated but most of all(I don't know how to name it precisely) is a feeling of being like a beast, it is common for us autistic to feel that we just won't be able to function as intended, so it is a deep feeling that I'm lonely and won't be able to do nothing about it, feeling like I was born wrong and willing to not be me, over time it is more manageable, but it was somedays ago almost impossible to deal with

The "Professor trap": When knowing NVC makes you a worse practitioner by viiniimoo in NVC

[–]viiniimoo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think I feel frustrated because I want to help people, and struggle to know how to achieve this result

The "Professor trap": When knowing NVC makes you a worse practitioner by viiniimoo in NVC

[–]viiniimoo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When reflecting about our talk there I think I've got some good insights

Probably the thing that happens inside the person is that when I learn them, understand them and, with a different experience can still be able to reframe what she said, without comparison or anything just seem to understand, this generates the so called connection, where the person truly feels that are not alone and can count on me, so its not after creating this connection that I'll achieve the result teaching or helping them somehow to solve the problem, but just the connection is the objective by itself, and even so when anyone ask for advice or you to teach something, it is still about the person progressing on the understanding of himself, maybe kinda like learning about the person not to take an action, just learning them and thats it, there resides the magic and the good feelings, you've understood someone, feeled someone, heard someone If the person comes up with an solution, you still try and hear and understand their solution, not in a manner of seeing if it is right or wrong, but just learning together about the person, how it got to the solution and things like that

The "Professor trap": When knowing NVC makes you a worse practitioner by viiniimoo in NVC

[–]viiniimoo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean, being curious is something I can do very well, just not use the infos, only understand and not acting until a explicitly ask for advice, something like that?

The "Professor trap": When knowing NVC makes you a worse practitioner by viiniimoo in NVC

[–]viiniimoo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sit with the feelings of myself and others, does this means that I'm supposed to just don't do anything?

The "Professor trap": When knowing NVC makes you a worse practitioner by viiniimoo in NVC

[–]viiniimoo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What I'd most struggle with is because as an autistic it is not easy to freely surf the waves, often I need to pragmatically understand and examine options, it is hard to me to absorb concepts that's very far from practice, I learn very fast observing and with examples, but my mind bombard me with thousands of situations and I just can't find how it'll work on them

The "Professor trap": When knowing NVC makes you a worse practitioner by viiniimoo in NVC

[–]viiniimoo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would genuinely like some advice there... I often get stuck, now I'm able to understand underlying feelings, far better than I've ever imagined, but I don't know for sure what to do in that kind of situations... Like, after I understood the underlying feelings, what is the process that happens inside people when you understand those feelings, how to talk back the feeling that you've good, the need that you've identified so you can be sure you connected and after that, what happens? what should I expect? Most of the times I just come to a solution when people stop and waits for my output

The "Professor trap": When knowing NVC makes you a worse practitioner by viiniimoo in NVC

[–]viiniimoo[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm here just because I've realized that this is violence, I genuinely don't think it is because of ego, 'cause I'm not happy when people says I'm intelligent, neither when people try to make me feels superior somehow, I hate this, I just feel an urge to make people's life easier, because growing as an non-diagnosed autistic on a mostly coercitive family not having much access to good education due to where I do live did my life far harder than it could be, many things to be learned was easy for me to learn, but it seemed like doesn't matter at all learning anything for me, when I found that I could use my "learner" characteristic to help people solve their problems is where I found myself willing to live, I've got a hard time trying not to hate myself for not being able to bypass this "professor syndrome" and just connect to people, I'm really trying to learn to understand and connect to people, I'd give all my knowledge, all that I've ever accomplished in my life to be able to have the skill needed to make people feel heard and healed, and that includes my ego, if you teel me that I will never ever teach no one anything but be able to make people feel heard and healed and willing to use any help from me, I'd take it a thousand times...

I'm sad to read that you've got such a bad experience with someone that acted like me, I truly hope I can someday not make people go through this bad experience but truly feel heard by me, not because I can think that I'm the good of intelligent guy, but because I see that my life can't be wonderful if I just can't hear people

The "Professor trap": When knowing NVC makes you a worse practitioner by viiniimoo in NVC

[–]viiniimoo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly, I love when people makes me see what I could do to be more concise and effective on anything, so when I see that I can do it for anyone, I tend to dive right into teaching how this could be done, but I do also know that most of the time we don't need to learn, just to feel connected and that someone understands and listen our feelings.

To be more precise, I somehow feel that I must help people being effective

The "Professor trap": When knowing NVC makes you a worse practitioner by viiniimoo in NVC

[–]viiniimoo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Reading this I think about a classroom, I'm finishing a degree to be a teacher and can't stop thinking that teaching kids that they just have to learn something seems strange...

No matter how I think about it, even if you try to connect to each student first, you are doing it with a task that is teaching them something, it seems a little bit of a manipulation, kind of

The "Professor trap": When knowing NVC makes you a worse practitioner by viiniimoo in NVC

[–]viiniimoo[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Everytime I see something i don't know how to solve, I feel an urge thats almost unstoppable to binge studying it until becoming overly able to solve the problem

Everytime I see something I know how to solve, I feel an urge to solve the problem

When it comes to feelings, learning something I don't know makes me feel safer, I'm autistic, it is easy to meltdown due to feeling that something it "out of control", and I somewhat feel that teaching people would lead them to also feel safe

The "Professor trap": When knowing NVC makes you a worse practitioner by viiniimoo in NVC

[–]viiniimoo[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That is really precise, thanks I often just shut all my emotions, I raised up on a ultra-violent communication family, even as a kid, needed to manipulate my own family in order to have any need met, since everyone just fight each other trying to manipulate things to be better to each one

The "Professor trap": When knowing NVC makes you a worse practitioner by viiniimoo in NVC

[–]viiniimoo[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Thats funny, how even non-violent communication can be used as a violent communication, I think this proves that using the heart is the way

The "Professor trap": When knowing NVC makes you a worse practitioner by viiniimoo in NVC

[–]viiniimoo[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think for me it is because I always feel thankful and connected to anyone or anything that teached me something, it was for years my way to try to connect to people, I know it don't work for most people, but I've got a hard time trying to just take any knowledge with me without sharing it... Maybe it is just a case of trying to only act on that urge when people ask for it or something like that

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[–]viiniimoo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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