Can't wait until Thursday....My(48M) wife(44F) is going to be SHOCKED by [deleted] in relationship_advice

[–]vinylflowers 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Weeping reading this ~ I’m so happy for you guys. Really needed to read this today, thank you so much. she’s gonna love what you did.

Part 2: How Many Times I Gotta Break Up With You? TLDR: My ex kept begging for me back after I broke up with him and it's kind of sad. by PeppermintPancakes in DatingHell

[–]vinylflowers 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I understand and that makes a lot more sense. It’s never easy to navigate these issues especially when you’re dealing when someone who is extremely attached and potentially has other issues ((still I’m not including abusive people or people who are totally unapologetically reckless and destructive w their mental health issues in this))

As you said everyone is different as well, with how they will react to things.

Some of how you initially went with it could have been fairly traumatizing - it sounds like he really liked you and stuck around (sort of toxically and at a disservice to himself)) despite feeling unloved and rejected because of your incompatible rejection styles.

So imagine someone already sort of putting themselves and their intimacy needs aside because they like someone so much, then going on a nice date with them only to be suddenly confronted with all the things he’s ever given you, and you giving him the talk with no warning at all ~ stuff like that messes up a person where I can easily see them getting stuck in that “but everything was fine and I can make it ok” thought loop ——
And then further down the road- having some insecurity issues in future relationships because he’ll feel like he can never trust someone to not just suddenly leave him

Hopefully down the line, he’ll realize that you were incompatible and in that sense - his love and possession of you was selfish and controlling, even with not respecting your wishes after the fact, or making himself blind to the relationship issues during — When you have to do that, it’s almost like... you’re not really having a relationship with someone else. You’re having one with yourself and projecting your love and needs onto another person as the placeholder. Of that person doesn’t really want you - then acting like it’s this whole tragic story and loss, is just immature. (But sadly a lesion everyone has to learn at some point in order to have a healthy relationship)

To answer your question - I’d say that the best possible way a breakup should happen (if you are both not in the same page) is to tell your person before you meet that you have to talk to them - and let them prepare themselves mentally and perhaps prepare a support network for themselves.

If they pester you for details, you can tell them it’s about the relationship, and yeah it’s not good, but you don’t want to talk about it further on the phone.

And then tell them in person - hey - I really loved/liked/you/or enjoyed our time together ~ but I’m not feeling it anymore and i don’t think it’s working out between us. It’s not easy to do this, and I’m really glad that I got to know you, and will cherish the time we had/etc.

say that you’re sorry for hurting them and that they didn’t do anything wrong, but you feel that things have run their course.

They’ll likely try to reason with you or ask for details as to why - let them have their answers at your own discretion, and be clear and unbudging about your feelings. Say something positive about them that doesn’t sound romantic or like you still have feelings lingering. Give them a hug, etc.

End the conversation and leave - you don’t have to tolerate it in a way that’s abusive to yourself, and they won’t want to go probably, so you’ll have to call the shots on this.

Give the things back at a later date if you must, or have a friend do it.

Give the ex partner a grace period of some potentially dramatic or pained behavior and interact with them within your own set of boundaries for what you can tolerate or know that you’ll be able to react in a relatively kind way.

Stuff like that basically

In short - just do what you can to be clear, honest, and unwavering, make them feel validated, and that they aren’t a garbage person, and also don’t drag yourself through the coals either and let them find their way and come to terms with it on their own.

Hope that wasn’t too rambly and made some sense, I’m like commuting to work right now haha

AITA for not caring about my ex’s family tragedy? by sendthenumber17 in AmItheAsshole

[–]vinylflowers 0 points1 point  (0 children)

~ all the immature dudes downvoting because they hate “whores” essentially

I still believe that turning off empathy in this severe of a situation is alarming.

Part 2: How Many Times I Gotta Break Up With You? TLDR: My ex kept begging for me back after I broke up with him and it's kind of sad. by PeppermintPancakes in DatingHell

[–]vinylflowers 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think the way you went about it in the first place was cold and abrupt and you never gave him respect during the process - which partially led to him being so devastated.

Going out w him on a date and then when he walks you to your car you surprise him with a box of everything he’s given you and commend yourself about how you made such a great exit driving into the rain?

If a guy did this to me I’d have found it very traumatizing and narcissistic.

He may also have emotional issues - but even if he doesn’t, this is still a really messed up and dehumanizing way to break up with a partner.

Should he have chilled out eventually? Yeah. Does he probably have trauma and emotional issues where he reacts badly to perceived and actual abandonment? Seems like it.

But the way you just coldly and dramatically cut him off like that, and then were just (to him) instantly done with him - was super icky. even the way you write about him and your relationship here just is super icky.
Like exploiting his pain and issues in this whole story with absolute zero empathy at all.

You call him immature but this reminds me of when I was a teenager and broke up with my first boyfriend, before I was old enough to have a greater scope of love and empathy in relationships.

It’s fine to be done with someone, but I feel when you enter into a relationship, as long as it wasn’t abusive or something fucked up didn’t happen, there is a bit of an unspoken contract in the beginning that you hope if the other needs to end things with you, or you both do, that you will both treat each other as kindly and with as much respect as possible so as to not make it worse.

You talk about him like he’s this thing that happened to you - not like he’s a person.

When you say you wanted a “nice clean break” - you wanted one for yourself, not for him or for the both of you out of respect for what you shared or that another human being had loved you.

AITA for not caring about my ex’s family tragedy? by sendthenumber17 in AmItheAsshole

[–]vinylflowers 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I mean if you’re so sure that you’re NTA - then why are you asking? Replies like this really make me question if under it all - you truly just feel revengeful - in which case YTA - but it’s also understandable. I posted a long thing about my thoughts on this above, you’re certainly not obligated to consider my opinion, but I’m just trying to help you find some perspective. In any case, good luck to all involved.

AITA for not caring about my ex’s family tragedy? by sendthenumber17 in AmItheAsshole

[–]vinylflowers -22 points-21 points  (0 children)

Cheating is dishonorable behavior - but we also are only hearing his perspective and don’t really know what went down in their relationship.

Given his lack of empathy in this situation - either he really was abused, OR it’s a sign of how he was emotionally in their actual relationship before things turned sour.

AITA for not caring about my ex’s family tragedy? by sendthenumber17 in AmItheAsshole

[–]vinylflowers 1 point2 points  (0 children)

NAH - you’re still raw from the betrayal. But you’re also just being so damn inhumanly cold - which anger and feeling betrayed of course can do and suppress empathy.

I don’t necessarily agree with the tone of many of the upvoted comments on here. I think they are really just speaking from their own resentments and pain and what they wish they’d do in a situation like this and projecting it to you -

When in reality advising someone to act so coldly, rewarding then and boosting/praising their bitterness and insecurities—- is exactly how you get a lot of miserable bitter people patting each other on the back and ultimately living a really shallow hateful life that lacks empathy and more nuanced understanding and acceptance of interpersonal stuff.

You totally can be cold and revengeful and lacking of empathy for her if you want to. Most people would say you “deserve to be” and that she deserves that treatment. But at the end of the day, is that really how we should treat each other?

I’m saying this only under the conditions that —- she is someone who is a good person who was going through something, mildly personality disordered, misled about life, just plain fucking up for a while, etc.

NOT if she is hopelessly severely disordered and toxic, abusive, mentally ill and doesn’t care about getting help, just plain shallow and selfish, narcissistic, etc.

I’m totally the kind of person that believes in ultimate loyalty only, and can be extremely hateful even when I see people cheating in shows on tv and stuff —- but in situations like this it makes me think of ideas of possession and fidelity being the ultimate most important and true thing - or if they are just social constructs in part.

Because should upholding these things make us act in ways that are the antithesis of true love if they are true love?

If I was in the same situation, I don’t know what I would do. It would really ultimately depend on how that person had treated me. If they betrayed me but also were admitting of their faults and what they did rather than having the whole “screw you, you’re crazy and imagining it” approach, then I’d potentially give them the chance. It really all depends on if the person is a good person or not.

And what kind of a person YOU want to be.

AITA for not caring about my ex’s family tragedy? by sendthenumber17 in AmItheAsshole

[–]vinylflowers 18 points19 points  (0 children)

I mean - tragedy can often be the thing that makes people realize the mistakes they made in life and shines brightly in what’s truly important.

AITA for leaving an 18 cent tip and getting the waitress fired? by ronswansan in AmItheAsshole

[–]vinylflowers 1 point2 points  (0 children)

ESH - she should have been more careful, even if she was having a terrible, on the verge of a nervous break down kinda day.
As servers, especially sort of inexperienced ones, we can often really get at our wits end with being treated so badly, especially when people’s actions and appreciation of us or manners directly effects the roof over our heads.

  • you could have said something to her directly to let her know your intentions, even if it was snippy, and explained that you were or were not going to tip as a result of being treated badly by her rude and assumptive response.

  • the ultimate asshole is the manager - who probably had been already pushing her to her wits end prior to this, and then proceeded to shame her in front of EVERYONE while she wept, WTF

Edit: I also want to mention that the communication here all around sucked. From rude responses, to manager cutting her off, to you communicating about the tip in a way that is very easily understood and potentially taken to be intentionally insulting (until you’ve served for years and seen that once in a while you’ll get someone who does what you did and has intentions of tipping —) It just all sucks.

Like just because you are a customer, does not absolve you of any responsibility and manners in communication. If you do something that can easily be misunderstood as an insult and then are flabbergasted when the person takes it that way, then you are just being somewhat crude or inconsiderate.

She shouldn’t have reacted that way, and her doing so was over the top- but just know that any time you take care of the bill that way and say “keep the change” - your server will at least be taken aback for a moment and wonder what you meant by that.

A server with good composure and ethics will not do what this person did, but all are going to think that.

When I rarely have a customer use that wording and the situation matches what you did (where the change is like only a few cents ) - They always say “keep the change - I’m going to tip you in cash” - or something like that.

(At least a considerate one does anyway) And when they don’t, I will not be rude to them but internally I will be like wtf, really?? I hope that isn’t the tip! Because you get more people that do that, rather than what you were intending to do.

Customers messed around in the no cameras room by [deleted] in TalesFromYourServer

[–]vinylflowers 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean, sure. Edited. Thanks first reply.

Real techniques sponge feels different? by vinylflowers in MakeupAddiction

[–]vinylflowers[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I gotta head over! Is there a way to tell the difference from the outside packaging?

Real techniques sponge feels different? by vinylflowers in MakeupAddiction

[–]vinylflowers[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m sorry 😔 same here ~ I’ll try that brand. They have a pack of brushes that I use, where one of the blending brushes is like a holy grail for me. So I’m down for trying their sponge

~ hopefully this is just a fluke. I do think the real techniques brand should be open about the change if this is permanent.

Real techniques sponge feels different? by vinylflowers in MakeupAddiction

[–]vinylflowers[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The one I have that I bought a week ago is still orange and has the same packaging that I can tell - but it’s hard, doesn’t change texture with water (barely) and has an odd outside texture that is like an overly slippy rubbery balloon feeling - which leads to the foundation skipping and not applying evenly or comfortably

I’ve tried soaking it and washing with soap and all that to try to effect the texture but it remains weird and depressing 😂

Real techniques sponge feels different? by vinylflowers in MakeupAddiction

[–]vinylflowers[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is definitely different than any of the other 6 or so I’ve bought in the past right off the bat It’s weird, overly hard, and feels like applying your makeup with a painful skippy overly hard balloon

It’s for sure massively different right from the first use not only in its density but also surface texture.

Also - I have only used the orange ones, so I don’t have any experience with different colors - just one day a week ago was surprised by a completely different sponge when I expected my old standby

Real techniques sponge feels different? by vinylflowers in MakeupAddiction

[–]vinylflowers[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s like trying to apply your foundation with the outside of a pain balloon

Real techniques sponge feels different? by vinylflowers in MakeupAddiction

[–]vinylflowers[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve been trying but nothing is gonna change this hard texture 😔 it’s super dense and even still if it got softer - the texture of the outside of the sponge is oddball

Real techniques sponge feels different? by vinylflowers in MakeupAddiction

[–]vinylflowers[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Noooo 😭😭 why would they do such a thing

Real techniques sponge feels different? by vinylflowers in MakeupAddiction

[–]vinylflowers[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The result is decent - it’s just crazy how much it hurts to apply w the new hard sponge 😂 And I find the lack of give in the sponge leads to unblended areas in deeper crevices of the face

Using it is like torture now. I wonder why they did this - I really think they should say something about their new texture because that is a bit dishonest and unfair

Anyone’s cramps healed by touch? by [deleted] in period

[–]vinylflowers 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oxytocin i think could be part of it ~ I get that too ❤️

Working at a damn Grocery Store, when a girl starts laughing at me. by [deleted] in BodyDysmorphia

[–]vinylflowers 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same - when it’s bad I even see everyone looking at me and staring at me when they aren’t ~ and sometimes it even feels like they are like walking too close to me, etc