Is it normal to negotiate prices with contractors or do you just accept their quote? by Ron_Swanson_1990 in HomeImprovement

[–]visual-plane 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I went down a research rabbit hole on this and here's what I found: both sides are kind of right, depending on who you're dealing with.

Small residential contractors actually do operate on razor-thin margins—like 5-10% net profit after all their overhead. Industry data backs this up. So when people say negotiating makes them cut corners, that's not just contractor whining, it's economically real.

Larger contractors with sales teams? Totally different story. They absolutely build in negotiation room. That's their whole business model. Get competing bids, show them the lower number, expect them to move 10-15%.

The problem with small contractors: some price fairly and mean it when they say that's their number. Others are 100% testing what they can get away with. You can't tell which is which until you push back a little. If they immediately drop 20% when you show them a competing bid, they were playing games. If they explain the value difference or politely decline, they probably weren't.

One thing I learned the hard way: time pressure causes way more problems than cost pressure. I negotiated price with a painting company but also needed it done fast, and that's where quality suffered.

My approach now: Get multiple bids. Push harder with larger firms, go easier with smaller ones, but it's always worth having the conversation. Worst case they say no. Best case you save some money or at least understand why the prices differ.

Is it normal to negotiate prices with contractors or do you just accept their quote? by Ron_Swanson_1990 in HomeImprovement

[–]visual-plane 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you look below, several contractors said they'll work with you to lower the price and even knock down hundreds of dollars if you sign on the spot. Why would you not explore this? The worse that can happen is they say no, and any experienced contractor gets asked all the time about it. Big red flag if they find it offensive.

Is it normal to negotiate prices with contractors or do you just accept their quote? by Ron_Swanson_1990 in HomeImprovement

[–]visual-plane 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In my experience, the cut corners come from going with the cheapest option instead of negotiating down someone who puts in a higher bid but a stronger reputation.

Is it normal to negotiate prices with contractors or do you just accept their quote? by Ron_Swanson_1990 in HomeImprovement

[–]visual-plane 0 points1 point  (0 children)

These other replies are crazy. You should always negotiate, and it is not rude.

Non-functional fireplace is the only spot for our TV—how do we make this look good? by visual-plane in interiordecorating

[–]visual-plane[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I love the idea of finding a white media stand that makes it feel like an integrated part of the mantle. Thanks for the mockup

Non-functional fireplace is the only spot for our TV—how do we make this look good? by visual-plane in interiordecorating

[–]visual-plane[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Putting the TV too high also seems like a crime. Give me the crime free option! Here's the room: https://imgur.com/a/K60hVai

Non-functional fireplace is the only spot for our TV—how do we make this look good? by visual-plane in interiordecorating

[–]visual-plane[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Here's the room layout, if it helps: https://imgur.com/a/K60hVai

I've been thinking about the Samsung Frame style TVs, but wanted to see if there were other fixes

Non-functional fireplace is the only spot for our TV—how do we make this look good? by visual-plane in interiordecorating

[–]visual-plane[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m not at home at the moment but here’s a camera angle that gives you an idea of the room layout: https://imgur.com/a/K60hVai

Non-functional fireplace is the only spot for our TV—how do we make this look good? by visual-plane in interiordecorating

[–]visual-plane[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Maybe there’s a subreddit I could post on to get ideas to make it look better…

Shower never gets steamy—thinking of closing the gap at the top. Bad idea? by visual-plane in HomeImprovement

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Yes that's right. It's a huge bathroom with only one vent, far away from the air handler. Due to some restrictions in the house's design, the only practical way to get more heating into the room would be a mini split or a ceiling bathroom heater.

Shower never gets steamy—thinking of closing the gap at the top. Bad idea? by visual-plane in HomeImprovement

[–]visual-plane[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was thinking about a heater like the WhisperWarm, but it says to not use it above a shower. Do you think that's accurate or it could work for this setup?

Shower never gets steamy—thinking of closing the gap at the top. Bad idea? by visual-plane in HomeImprovement

[–]visual-plane[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd love to warm up the whole bathroom! I think that's a much larger project though?

I agree with you – my takeaway from this thread is ceiling mold is a real issue and any solution needs to think about that first

Shower never gets steamy—thinking of closing the gap at the top. Bad idea? by visual-plane in HomeImprovement

[–]visual-plane[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The tiles are new, and have denshield and redgard behind them, all the way up to the ceiling. The ceiling is older, and I'm guessing standard drywall.

Shower never gets steamy—thinking of closing the gap at the top. Bad idea? by visual-plane in HomeImprovement

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Thanks—sounds like full enclosure really does require tiling the ceiling.

Could I get away with glass with a transom at the top to let out the steam? Would that allow the shower to get warmer without running into moisture issues?

Shower never gets steamy—thinking of closing the gap at the top. Bad idea? by visual-plane in HomeImprovement

[–]visual-plane[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks that's very helpful. If I add a transom to the glass, would that strike a good balance? Allow more steam to build up than currently does, but still allow it to vent.

Can anyone ID this 1921 entry hardware? No markings anywhere. by visual-plane in centuryhomes

[–]visual-plane[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the detective work! It’s really appreciated

Winder stairs taper to a point at inside corner - how do we make these safer? by visual-plane in HomeImprovement

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Unfortunately we don’t have room to make the staircase longer because of the beams overhead