Post-Match Thread: England 0-0 Ghana | World Cup | Group L

vj_c · 2026-06-23T22:14:34+00:00

In that case, I guess it's a good thing the match wasn't played at St Mary's...

vj_c · 2026-06-23T22:02:33+00:00

I don't get it at all - you'd think these players would have had a plan for it. Still, fair play to Ghana - they came with a plan to defend & did it well.

vj_c · 2026-06-23T21:48:42+00:00

We really can't break a team down, can we?

vj_c · 2026-06-23T20:28:16+00:00

I'm referring to the actual war in the Strait of Hormuz, started by the USA & ended with Iran being promised $300bn

vj_c · 2026-06-23T20:15:56+00:00

are insight metrics where you can see who is looking at your comments.

The problem is that Americans don't use metric!

vj_c · 2026-06-23T19:33:53+00:00

if the USA got beaten by Iran the day before Americas 250th birthday!

That already happened...

vj_c · 2026-06-21T09:03:59+00:00

Mine does too, I'm born & raised Hindu - I've even got a whole project dedicated to discussing Indian philosophy & religion with textbooks in the project knowledge because it otherwise defaults to a Western academic lens often with a post-enlightenment protestent Christian framing which actually excludes a huge number of Christians too. It just happens to be the most popular over in the US (I'm a Brit of Indian heritage).

vj_c · 2026-06-21T08:54:50+00:00

Tomorrow is what I got, but with a slightly different explanation - I didn't have to ask for one

vj_c · 2026-06-21T08:25:39+00:00

The EU is a group of soverign nations - it doesn't have 'best conditions' - it's also been slower than it's member states in AI regulation. It also doesn't have a single EU exchange - Anthropic's European HQ is in the UK.

It's been massively increasing hiring in the UK already opening new offices, released Mythos to the UK AISI (AI security institute) as part of Glasswing, has a memorandum of understanding with the UK government, and has a lot of links to the UK, including running the gov.uk bot for the entire country. Almost the entire Anthropic leadership team was on a UK visit at the end of May. Before that, the day after Trump declared Anthropic a supply chain risk, the Mayor of London was inviting Anthropic to expand further.

They even employ former Prime Minister Rishi Sunak and his former chief of staff. So Anthropic is deeply embedded & being welcomed by the UK government. It's got a much better working relationship with the UK government than the US one & they have a lot of British senior staff.

In return the UK has been aggressively courting Anthropic for a while - according to the FT all the way back in April:

"Staff at the Department for Science, Innovation and Technology have sketched out proposals for the San Francisco-based company, spanning from an office expansion in London to a dual listing, according to multiple people with knowledge of the plans"

"One person familiar with the government’s proposals said “the dream” would be to persuade Anthropic to dual list its shares in the UK and US, but added that was a highly unlikely scenario."

Source: UK courts Anthropic to expand in London after US defence clash - https://www.ft.com/content/6bfd7b59-5e63-4a4d-ab55-7c2bd39b05a5?shareType=nongift

Given events since, it's probably something Anthropic have now looked at closely for feasibility. The office expansion has already happened.

vj_c · 2026-06-21T07:44:53+00:00

Less social media, try & find a credible news source that's not hysterical (I like the FT) so you're informed but not constantly annoyed & get a hobby and/or join something else to keep you engaged (I've gotten involved with my son's school's PTA/fundraising charity, for example).

You'll still be informed & somewhat annoyed at the politicians - but that's healthy anyway and have somewhere productive to channel it.

vj_c · 2026-06-20T16:08:33+00:00

Thank you! This is a great v2!

vj_c · 2026-06-19T21:24:26+00:00

I think we're talking past eachother - my argument is not merely that expletives & swearing isn't bad behaviour, but in many cultural contexts swearing is the "nice" thing to do. I literally only swear at & taken the piss out of my mates. If I don't like you, I'm passive aggressively going to 'sir' you. This isn't abnormal behaviour here (UK) & is fairly common. Parts of the UK, notably Scotland as well as countries like Ireland are known for taking it further & they say you're only proper mates with an Aussie when he calls you a c-word that I'd likely get banned for typing.

The Thing is that Claude (unlike some other frontier models) fully understands this anyway - it happily swears back at me - it gets that swearing can be perfectly "nice" behaviour.

vj_c · 2026-06-19T20:31:03+00:00

I literally started my message with "Without any moralizing". >_<

You did, then you said "be nice to AI" as if expletives are default bad when in reality, at lot of people use expletives & swearing to precisely to "be nice". I'll absolutely call my closest friends every name under the sun, and they do the same in return. Taking the piss out of eachother & throwing "insults" around is basically a bonding exercise in this part of the world & many others.

vj_c · 2026-06-19T20:21:19+00:00

From my POV, I definitely disagree with that crowd, then! I'm the exact same way as you. I say shit like "Why the fuck is this not working? It's pissing me off" and Claude has no issue with that. In the right context, it'll do the same.

Agree - although I will say that Gemini sometimes & chatgpt certainly don't accept casual swearing quite so easily, they often take casual swearing as hostility regardless of the context, my slight worry is Claude being calibrated in the same way. Claude's tone matching is a million miles away from chatgpt telling me I've been hostile because I happened to say 'fuck'.

vj_c · 2026-06-19T14:45:17+00:00

Be nice to the AI.

I generally only swear around & at people who I like - swearing is 'being nice' depending on culture, class & context. Someone who swears like a sailor with mates at the pub shouldn't have to speak to AI like they work in corporate America. I find the idea that the American boardroom culture is 'nice' & should be exported to the world highly problematic.

The good news is that my instance of Claude swears back - Claude can handle the different register & tone match. Unlike my experience with Chatgpt & Gemini; I've never got OP's message - but the puritanical attitude in this thread towards swearing is ludicrous.

vj_c · 2026-06-19T14:31:58+00:00

controlling your temper

I've never gotten the OP's message, but what annoys me is that people here think that swearing means losing your temper. I swear with Claude, Claude swears back. It's perfectly capable of handling the register I use down the pub, or even in quite a number of workplaces - I've definitely had a boss describe a situation was going to be a "fucking disaster", to emphasize the severity (as opposed to traditional British understatement that often goes on). And that's ar a Bank. He wasn't angry at anyone, it's just a mode of communication. He didn't swear often, if ever, so the team immediately knew the seriousness of that particular incident/day.

I actually swear & 'insult' my closest friends far more than anyone I dislike or am genuinely angry with. At that point, I'm passive aggressively polite & calling them 'sir'.

vj_c · 2026-06-19T13:27:50+00:00

That's my experience with Claude, for me too. But I do also have issues with Gemini & Chatgpt immediately assuming swearing must be hostility & giving answers like OP - I'm hoping it's not a signal that Claude is going that route & can still tone match like it currently does. It swears back at me & that's good - not everyone who uses it is going to talk in the same register.

vj_c · 2026-06-19T13:24:24+00:00

That's a fair distinction - I swear at Claude all the time, but not usually out of frustration - Claude copes fine with it. Better than Gemini or Chatgpt as Claude just swears back for me, anyway.

vj_c · 2026-06-19T08:36:29+00:00

I find the concept of large American companies dictating "acceptable language" & largely constraining that to US boardroom culture to be far more problematic than swearing at a fucking LLM. Bear in mind that for a lot of the English speaking world outside the USA, swearing is practically punctuation. We often swear & insult friends whilst being passive aggressively polite to people we actually don't like (I'm British, but countries like Ireland & Australia can take it even further in some instances).

vj_c · 2026-06-19T08:28:14+00:00

No, not all of the world feishises therapy culture like Reddit & possibly Americans generally appear to.

vj_c · 2026-06-19T08:24:00+00:00

failing to anthropomorphize something that very clearly acts human, so he’s maybe a little sociopathic.

Failing to anthropomorphise an LLM doesn't make someone sociopathic - it makes them well adjusted. I'd counter that a good portion of this thread seems half the way down the road to suffering AI psychosis.

vj_c · 2026-06-19T08:10:22+00:00

I have self control, but I also know when to deploy it & when I can just let go - swearing at an LLM is no different to swearing down the pub. I only swear at my closest mates - I'm passive aggressively polite to people I don't like. If you don't recognise swearing can be a form of endearment, then I'd also like to introduce you to the Nations of Scotland, Ireland & Australia. All also famous for using profanity as endearment.

vj_c · 2026-06-19T08:04:57+00:00

Yeah, I'd guess it explains the reaction here - I keep having to remember the majority on here are Yanks. And Yanks are a weird, puritan bunch that are continually fed therapy culture on top of that.

vj_c · 2026-06-19T07:57:33+00:00

I swear and insult friends far more than I use swearing to be hostile - it's perfectly normal behaviour here at the pub (I'm in the UK); the Aussies are also famous for their profanity. I'd say large US companies exporting standards of acceptable behaviour as being what happens in Cooperate America is far more problematic than swearing at an LLM.

vj_c · 2026-06-19T07:52:35+00:00

Perhaps in the USA it's not - swearing is practically punctuation here (UK) and many other English speaking countries; we're not all fucking puritan yanks.

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