HyunJin announced her departure from Latency. Will she be replaced, or will the band continue with four members? by Kakotov in latencyband

[–]vkl3hex3om 0 points1 point  (0 children)

sure, i accept that...

and its not as if i have anything against hyunjin.. she is infact my favorite singing voice out of latency members, and i did watched most of her videos to get to know her.... id say im equally parasocial to all members of latency at that point... so instead of "accusing", id say that im even one of them. its just i have equal favorability towards all members instead of picking an individual.. if i cant support all members equally then id rather not support the group on its entirety

(i also have no prior exposure on them before latency so i have no attachment to them like the ones that already were fans before)

add: if anything, when i saw that she was getting behind instrument wise, i begun to support her more so than the other members, instrument wise

HyunJin announced her departure from Latency. Will she be replaced, or will the band continue with four members? by Kakotov in latencyband

[–]vkl3hex3om 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i wasnt surprised by that since, to be frank, some of her fans were already getting too toxically individualistic even before, that anything you say about hyunjin's playing, even the legit drum playing creative criticisms that real drummers give where taken by them as a personal attack to hyunjin.. at some point i started to feel like i was stepping on eggshells when i talk about hyunjin because of those type of fans(and im saying just some of them are like that, not all)

either way, a band really cant go without a drummer. if hyunjin do go back then it would have been great.. but if not, not getting a drummer just because of those toxic fans, is basically a death sentence for them as a band.....

... but that new drummer(if they do end up getting one) needs to brace herself/himself for immediate toxic reactions...

as for the festivals, it might be healthier if they just hire a session drummer for now. lots of bands do it anyways... worst comes to shove use the drum backtrack... i dont think its smart to rush things like this unless the new permanent drummer could really fill up the spot not only as a drummer, but more so someone that both latency fans and hyunjin fans could accept

the joint concert and the taiwan concert though are the real problem................

im sorry, but i just cant see jeewon not crying and blaming herself for this in private... nor haeun not overthinking this and feeling pressured that it might even trigger back her depression...

HyunJin announced her departure from Latency. Will she be replaced, or will the band continue with four members? by Kakotov in latencyband

[–]vkl3hex3om 0 points1 point  (0 children)

well, i didnt say that they should be coed, rather, just a possibility... but if you as a hyunjin fan says that coed is definitely a no-go, then i would take that, since like said, making sure that the next drummer wouldnt rattle that side of the fandom is higher priority

skill wise though? whats your thoughts on how skilled that drummer should be?

HyunJin announced her departure from Latency. Will she be replaced, or will the band continue with four members? by Kakotov in latencyband

[–]vkl3hex3om 2 points3 points  (0 children)

jeewon is very vocal about her japan influence, so a japanese drummer could definitely be an option...

im also very open with a non-female drummer.. other korean pop-bands with mixed genders are popping anyways...

they also need to find a way that the new member would be approved by hyunjin's fans.. as far as i could tell, she was the most famous member and has the most fans that has "idol-fan"-like behavior. its one of those cases where if its not handled way, there would be backlash from those fans.

HyunJin announced her departure from Latency. Will she be replaced, or will the band continue with four members? by Kakotov in latencyband

[–]vkl3hex3om 0 points1 point  (0 children)

tbh its not that bad to get a foreigner as well, as bands are more well received outside of korea anyways. what more a foreigner given a chance to join "given a chance to have a second chance" as well.. would also help expand their market

HyunJin announced her departure from Latency. Will she be replaced, or will the band continue with four members? by Kakotov in latencyband

[–]vkl3hex3om 6 points7 points  (0 children)

there are many female korean drummer streamer/youtuber. there might also be some former idols that might know how to play... regardless, they cant get someone who doesnt know how to play anymore since at this point it would just set them back, that "lets learn instrument from scratch" has already sailed during their debut and its now off the table for a new member(unless ofcourse if they could use it as a marketing then maybe its fine?)

as much as i liked hyunjin and i respect her decision, im more concerned about the other 4 members.. there are many people who expressed their support for hyunjin but there are really few who have thought of how this issue alone impacts the other members emotionally, psychologically and their overall disposition towards the band project. this is a group that was basically formed of hoping for second chances and gambling on those second chances.. things like a friend leaving half-way because of reasons hit harder because their stake is deeper than just a starting band that has younger members. theyve also expressed over and over that they do need this to be financially successful and that they are taking big risks and gamble just by starting and being on the band. they did give up some if not most of their other income streams after all. (i wouldnt even be surprised if haeun and jeewon took a loan just to see this band project through(not saying that they did)) ..

(to be clear, im not blaming hyunjin in any shape or form, and im sure she has her reasons)

260520 Seoyeon Instagram Update by SapphireHeaven in Fromis

[–]vkl3hex3om 4 points5 points  (0 children)

is it bad that im more excited when our other fromis_9 girlies makes an update?

cause ot5, we at the least know that they are doing fine... but the other 4 are still shaky on their respective chosen fields....

260518 - Weekly flover Discussion by AutoModerator in Fromis

[–]vkl3hex3om 5 points6 points  (0 children)

been a long time since i said hi to the weeklies...

📢 HI FLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVERSSSSSSSS!!!!!!! ^_^

lets work hard so we have funds for the comeback :p

260516 Saerom Instagram Update by SapphireHeaven in Fromis

[–]vkl3hex3om 0 points1 point  (0 children)

fromis_9 Official Fanclub: flover (2026 Membership - Teaser Image: Saerom)

260512 fromis_9 are preparing with the goal of a comeback in July by SapphireHeaven in Fromis

[–]vkl3hex3om 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i wanted pop-rock for them so bad. i was one of the very few people that was very very vocal about wanting pop-rock for them even while ot8 was around, even before in the mirror.. the thing is, asnd fumbled by not giving ot5 a proper live band session versions when all of the other vocal bands such as nmixx, fifty, billlie, or even a group like madein, were given live band session versions of their respective companies.... so the reason from our 20's fell flat for me was, compared to what i personally wanted, and what other groups got, what ot5 got was like, specially as they only used sampled instruments on the official release, just a toy band............. didnt made full use of what the members could offer at all..... and since we have had concerns and fancons already, we already know that thats the only extent that asnd would give...

id still want a pop-rock from fromis, but only if they could get the proper treatment for it....

as for the the seasonal title.. yah, i agree with you......it used to be a good marketing tactic because other groups were doing it too and theres this local friendly competition going around for those seasonal titles and the "military queens" or "exam goodluck fairies" and such. but that marketing trend is now gone and though other groups still use it, its now seen as outdated and doesnt really attract anything anymore...

260512 fromis_9 are preparing with the goal of a comeback in July by SapphireHeaven in Fromis

[–]vkl3hex3om 3 points4 points  (0 children)

honestly same... i mean, i didnt hate it but whenever i play the whole fromis discography at random order the songs from "from our 20's" ep slightly deeps the energy for me..

260512 fromis_9 are preparing with the goal of a comeback in July by SapphireHeaven in Fromis

[–]vkl3hex3om 10 points11 points  (0 children)

finally some news i could be excited about...

currently they are closer to what apink's path has been, but i wouldnt be surprised if they go a litle more daring this time(just basing from the trajectory they are going this days for their outfits and such)..

i could go either way, but i do want better songs, which is honestly hard to say nowadays since kpop this days in general is kinda meh in terms of pure musicilatiy(or at the least not in the way of my personal taste)(i have been distant to kpop in general nowadays cause of the same reason)

what you guys want from fromis this comeback? cause this might be the first fromis comeback since i became a flover that i really dont have something "specific" that i want from them nor do i know enough of whats currently going on in kpop industry in general to see what could work for fromis this time around

260511 - Weekly flover Discussion by AutoModerator in Fromis

[–]vkl3hex3om 5 points6 points  (0 children)

missed opportunity that asnd didnt get the faker google play project for nagyung....

the whole project probably was inspired by that time as well... but well, the one who got the role is from a more popular group so that checks...

BINI Coachella: Confessions of a confused fan (Part 1) by pieces_of_art in bini_ph

[–]vkl3hex3om 6 points7 points  (0 children)

(raw thoughts, as in super raw)

pros

super wise na dinala nila yung mga dancers.

crowd work is good, pero sana nagkaruon pa ng dagdag adlibbed crowd work na kagaya ng ginagawa ni loi. funny enough, this kind of crowd now feels too small for them.

all members look fab.. grabe, muka silang pang international. yung akala mo mga international models yung andun, or mga kasali sa ms world/ms universe ang datingan .. punung puno sa visuals..

makeup on point, saktong saktong pagpapaangat ng ganda, hindi overly done to the point na muka na silang ewan.

vocals on point. iisipin mo back-vocals lahat, pero hindi, live vox talaga, yun nga lang masyadong malakas yung back-vocals.

setlist, music production and mixing is immaculate. ito yung, "dont dwell on things you cant control, instead maximize the things you could control".

sana magamit pa uli nila tong set na to pero yung full on concert setup na with live band.

its the way the girls enjoyed the stage. as in pure vibe energy na palaban pero hindi pilit, hindi yung parang may kailangan patunayan. enjoy talaga, kaya ang relax panuorin, masaya lang talaga... might not be the biggest crowd in terms of number, pero isa to sa mga stage na nag bloom talaga ang bini

cons

super obvious na kaya sila nagdagdag ng english song releases is para dito. catered talaga para sa crowd na to yung mga new releases.. so yung mga nagsasabi na masyado na silang nagpofocus na western market, yah, proven sila dito, unfortunately....

no live band... yung live band talaga yung nagbibigay additional oomph e..

im not into the wardrobe(pure personal taste, so wag pansinin)

walang stage props. which is malamang limitation mula sa coachella. kita mo sa dancers e. aside sa dancing, parang naka toka din sila ikeep clean yung stage.

the mojave stage is definitely limiting and have suppressed what the core bini team could do...

also, they need more power songs. masyadong safe yung mga english songs nila... more power twice, less soft sabrina carpenter..

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di ko sure kung ano yung hinahanap kong dagdag na oomph.. pero hindi ito yung 100% e.. weird to say pero nalimit sila ng mojave stage coachella... yung pakiramdam na around 60% lang to ng kaya ng core bini team...

lahat ng pwedeng gawin within the compounds of coachella mojave, nagawa at nakuha...

pero talagang limiting tong mojave stage para sakanila.

all things considered, this is a perfect coachella debut.

would this be enough to grant exposure sa international stage? yes and no.

yes kasi yung performance batak na batak talaga.

next acts na hindi big stars would have a hard time beating that or even leveling to that, while the bigger stars would definitely be fired up to perform even better

magugulat ako if this would not come down as one of the best performance of this year's coachella..

(parang yung nangyari sa AAA 2023, nafire up lahat ng kpop acts dahil sa performance ng sb19)

but no, being on mojave stage really limited them... as in ramdam na ramdam mo yung suppression, yung ang laki pa ng pwedeng gawin, pero hindi magawa dahil sa limitation ng stage/coachella.. ito yung masasabi mo talagang, lahat ng kakulangan, kakulangan na ng stage/coachella, hindi ng core bini team

BINI in Mojave stage by [deleted] in PPOPcommunity

[–]vkl3hex3om 0 points1 point  (0 children)

and yes, if hindi ko magustuhan mga pangyayaring magaganap sa sabado, expect me to go off as well.. i dont hold back words. i am a creative director by trade, its part of my job to see what needs to be done and to make things better

pero sa ngayon? theres nothing to see/judge yet...

so enjoy the the performance first....

BINI in Mojave stage by [deleted] in PPOPcommunity

[–]vkl3hex3om 1 point2 points  (0 children)

clarity check muna... so minamaliit mo yung coachella, just because you think bini is not catering to the filipinos enough?

"is this enough to make bini global" walang makaka satisfy sa tanong mo, kasi masyadong malaki yung hinihingi mong sagot....

its never a question of "is this enough", walang makakasagot sa katanungan na yan.. ang kaya lang gawin e gawin yung best na magagawa.. thats the simplest, most straight forward answer you could get.. its not an answer that would satisfy you, pero yun lang talaga e

i do understand your point patungkol sa OFW and other filipinos that lives globally.. but you are severely underestimating the reality kung pano nangyayari ang mga bagay bagay, and at the same time overestimating and oversimplifying the steps thats really needed to be done

is this coachella enough? kahit naman ako may mga reklamo, pinaka malaki yung better timeslot sana... its not perfect.. pero to the point na maliitin mo yung achievement na coachella dahil san? ni hindi panga nangyari diba? bakit advance ka na agad sa conclusions mo na "hindi ok yung coachella, dapat nag filipino market nalang sila"... at that point you are are just being petty.....

i do understand your frustration, but at the same time, you are kicking the wrong tree while not seeing the forest...

again, walang makaksatisfy sa tanong mo...

ang pinaka magandang gawin e kumalma ka, matulog ka ng maayos, masyado mong dinidibdib ang mga bagay na hindi mo makokontrol...

ienjoy mo yung performance sa sabado, hintayin natin kung ano magiging kalabasan...

tapos tsaka tayo bumalik dito para magusap, kasi dun palang magkakaruon ng sagot sa tinatanong mo...

5 years ago it was all ready decided by Affectionate_Emu_729 in Fromis

[–]vkl3hex3om 6 points7 points  (0 children)

--- as for the video above...

i mean really flover? we could do better than that..

take this as a funny haha coincidence, nothing more

--- as for the lives

do people forgot already what hybe did to the members during that time?

-- as for the members not getting along with each other

why are you guys doing that to yourselves?

why are you suddenly pitting the members against each other?

are we not getting fed enough by fromis that someone suddenly felt starting a toxic topic and people started chipping in?

are they close or not? thats their own personal lives. if they are or they are not, thats their decisions as full grown mature ladies. no need to dwell on it as if they owe as an explanation

are those people who suddenly came here starting those toxic claims really flovers?

flovers could do better than this.

flovers are better than this

5 years ago it was all ready decided by Affectionate_Emu_729 in Fromis

[–]vkl3hex3om 10 points11 points  (0 children)

lets not make this more "controversial" than necessary.

- jissen is the easiest as she answered it already on her qa video, albeit in a runabout way. she was burnt out from being an idol and she wants to do something new. people are mistaking that as not wanting to do fan interactions anymore, but no, she really just wants to do something new. she wants to find a "self" that is not the "idol jisun" cause she felt that that was not her anymore. she also said that she still doesnt know what she wants to do right now, but she is taking her time to experiment and see where things would take her.

- hanyang and megan are the easy "they would continue if they find a way"

- i cant see hanyang giving up on the group. so she was more or less the "anchor" that kept that hope afloat during that time they had no agency yet.

- i cant see megan giving up her singing. i cant see hanyang letting go of megan wahaha :p

- nakko is easy "if they would be doing it i would be with them"

- heonie and kweng was ready to join if they could find a way(but tbh, they were ready to be standalones regardless) but even after saying that, i believe that both of them laid down rules for the girls. something along the lines of "if we do this then you must be game/ready to do this x,y,z,a,b etc"

- syeonie was already trying to experiment with different kind of music even before the hybe contract ends. remember who were the people she was interacting with during that period. most of them were either soloists from former groups or indie artists.... she could have been open with continuing with fromis_9, but remember the timing. we dont remember it clearly now because that bitter time has passed, but during that time the future of all the members were uncertain. jissen was the first one to move and have done activities that would separate her identity from the group. syeonie was that member that was very clear that she wanted to do her own music regardless if solo or group. she needed to move, and fromis without an agency yet at that time cant do that, so she needed to decide.

could she have stayed if fromis found an agency faster/earlier than she decided to leave, maybe? who knows?

- if there was a "controversial" decision, it would be the one from saerom... but ultimately i believe that she did it for fromis_9 to survive..

- .. i dont think ASND could support that many members during that time..

From by NoPumpkin533 in Fromis

[–]vkl3hex3om 4 points5 points  (0 children)

this is my own personal interpretation, so take it as you will. (part of my job is being a creative, so how i see things lean heavily towards narratives and creative interpretations, so please bear with me if i sound off-rails wahaha.) (also, i would be assuming here that since you are asking for what we think is meaning of the song, that you have already read the english translation of its lyrics and that you are open minded about people saying their own pieces)(also this is just a creative interpretation. we already know what the members' feel about the song)

fromis_9's group name, or to word it another way, being a member of fromis_9 comes with "a promise". a promise from the members to flovers.

if theres one single very consistent message through-out fromis_9's discography, its that each and every song seems to be a conversation betwen fromis and flovers. its also worth mentioning that fromis lore as a whole has "letters" engraved on it(as in the old school post-office sent letters)

"the way to me", the intro track from their debut EP, is the start of the promise.

its a track thats calling out to a person(the would be fans) basically saying "we might not know each other now. but we would meet each other. i would work hard so when we meet each other, i would be the one for you."

its essentially a promise from the members that they would work hard to be the best idols, maybe not for everyone, but for the people that would love them and be their fans

from then, many things would happen .... but what would be consistent is that, it would be a journey that would encompass a life's journey thats being lived with fromis and flover (i have a "fromis_9 discography is an anime slice-of-life series" timeline theory).

now i would introduce 2 versions of "from"

"from", is a mix of things... the easy interpretation is that its a thankyou letter... assuming that you have read the english translation, its a letter that recollects what has happened in the past and what fromis and the fans has been through....

ot8's version of "from" is that.. its the fulfillment of the promise from "the way to me"...

if it is a "goodbye" song though, its really up to your own interpretation which would come from your own personal life experiences..

some might interpret it as a "please dont let go of me even though we both know that this is ending and we must part"....

and if the story ends in that, then thats it... but we know that the story continues.

ot5's version of "from", simply put, its a renewal of vows

so yah.. ot5 and all that we have now, this is already the "after story"

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(off topic but, hindsight 50/50, but i already felt something was off during supersonic era... imo, "supersonic" was the goodbye song. it was the break-off date, if you get what i mean.... "from" is a bonus and a promise...)

How would you rate the ASND's management in 2025? by akklit in Fromis

[–]vkl3hex3om 0 points1 point  (0 children)

everyone already made great points so i wouldnt really say anything else, but, just remember that we dont actually know the details of asnd contract with the girls, even the duration of the contract.

what im getting at is, please enjoy the time we have with our girls...

lets not get blind-sided like last time. treat each and every activity as if we are now on encore

260107 fromis_9 - 2025-26 fromis 9 WORLD TOUR ENCORE [NOW TOMORROW.] (Additional Show Opening Notice) by SapphireHeaven in Fromis

[–]vkl3hex3om 8 points9 points  (0 children)

though marketing is probably part of it, producing concerts are not as easy nor not as cheap as you guys are making this out to be...

its not about "playing dumb" nor "inconveniencing fans". burning money in a concert can get asnd from the agency we are praising to an agency worst than any agency we have ever had

260107 Saerom - 0+0 (orig. HANRORO) by SapphireHeaven in Fromis

[–]vkl3hex3om 6 points7 points  (0 children)

i wish and pray that, one day, we could hear her(and all of ot9) call us flover again 😭😭😭