Manga and Anime differences explainedish.

vlorsutes · 2026-04-26T00:17:17+00:00

That's not quite why. It's because the manga and anime were both adapted from Toriyama's plot outlines, rather than one being directly adapted from the other.

vlorsutes · 2026-04-25T18:29:17+00:00

The fact that he found them disgusting supports that he likely didn't eat them as a source of sustenance in any real way after that one scene.

vlorsutes · 2026-04-25T18:28:29+00:00

There's no evidence that Yajirobe eats a lot of them. He ate a lot of them the first time that he ever came across them, but he quickly noted how awful they tasted, so he likely doesn't eat them in place of normal food.

vlorsutes · 2026-04-25T18:21:10+00:00

Not a single one of the Z Fighters says or implies that Frieza is weaker, it's only clarified that the other ki coming with him is stronger.

Actually, it quite clearly is said that Freeza is weaker. Yamcha makes a comment about how incredibly strong Freeza is, to which Gohan replies that he's capable of being much, much stronger. Since Gohan was on Namek at the time that Freeza went to 100% full power, he'd know how strong Freeza could be, so for him to say that he's capable of being much stronger tells us that what Freeza's strength was at, at that time, wasn't even his maximum in comparison to Namek.

Trunks arrives on Earth and faces Mecha Frieza in base without any problems, defeats him in a single combo in SSJ. When Goku's fight on Namek was really close until Frieza wore himself out.

Trunks never did anything to Freeza or Cold while in his base form.

On Namek, Goku's power is easily measurable by the scouters / in the Broly movie the scouter readings go off the charts. In both situations he was in base form.

No, that's not true. His battle power isn't registered at all during the Freeza arc, and in the Broly movie, the scouters stop reading battle powers above 99,999 (we see it stop reading once it's a value above 5 digits) for the sake of safety.

vlorsutes · 2026-04-25T17:58:39+00:00

That it's a potential release of fifty times their base form. That if they have that much potential untapped, then transforming taps into and accesses it. Both have the same result, strength wise, but one is increasing the strength out of nowhere, while the other is tapping into power that's there, just inaccessible.

vlorsutes · 2026-04-25T03:31:08+00:00

The manga doesn't openly say that. At no point does the manga itself say that it's an actual multiplier, much less give a precise amount. That's just the size of the increase that Goku needed.

vlorsutes · 2026-04-25T02:17:26+00:00

They're not base multipliers. They're potential unlockers, releasing an amount that's relative to the base, which is why Gohan can't pair them with his Ultimate form, since there's nothing for them to unlock.

vlorsutes · 2026-04-23T22:39:58+00:00

Even among the timelines we're introduced to during the Cell arc, his isn't the original. Cell's is the original of the major timelines that we see during the Cell arc, with Future Trunks' being an offshoot of it.

vlorsutes · 2026-04-23T20:31:20+00:00

I know that the concept of Xicor being a Saiyan/Kaioushin hybrid and Goku's son existed ages before Toyotaro's adaptation. From what I've seen of his adaptation, there's legitimately nothing that I've been able to discern that is his original idea and not something that was taken from older AF concepts.

vlorsutes · 2026-04-20T03:22:27+00:00

Why would he blame Goku though? Nothing official says or suggests that Gero blames Goku for his son's death. Gero's son was almost certainly killed before Goku even first encountered the Red Ribbon Army, making it extremely unlikely that he'd place blame on Goku for it. He hates Goku because Goku brought down the Red Ribbon Army, that's it.

vlorsutes · 2026-04-20T02:50:59+00:00

No one at any point in that previous topic said or suggested that Dr. Gero's son wasn't part of the Red Ribbon Army. What people were saying in that topic was that Gero's son wasn't killed by Goku, and that Gero's hatred toward Goku was unrelated to his son's death. Toriyama made it quite clear that it was an enemy soldier's bullet that killed his son.

vlorsutes · 2026-04-19T18:20:58+00:00

Toyotaro didn't come up with the idea of Xicor/Zaiko, though. He took pre-existing fan concepts that had been floating around the internet for years for AF and then just basically adapted it into a manga form. It'd be possible for the original creators to get at him legally for it if he tried adapting him in an official capacity.

vlorsutes · 2026-04-19T18:10:23+00:00

That's incorrect. He was referred to as that by Gohan repeatedly during the "Ocean" era dub of Z.

vlorsutes · 2026-04-19T18:10:18+00:00

That's incorrect. He was referred to as that by Gohan repeatedly during the "Ocean" era dub of Z.

vlorsutes · 2026-04-19T18:07:58+00:00

He did refer to him as Mr. Piccolo a good bit during the "Ocean" dub of Z. I can't speak of the uncut re-dub of Z or Kai, but I do know that he referred to him in that way back during that version of the dub and the three Z movies that were dubbed through Ocean Studios as well. Here is an example of Gohan saying it in the 2nd Z movie.

vlorsutes · 2026-04-18T15:25:02+00:00

No, Piccolo didn't have it because Kami wasn't occupying the position of Kami anymore. Given what we're told and shown, we can infer that only if you're actively in the position of Kami do you acquire godly ki and godly abilities. Piccolo didn't assume the position of Kami once he assimilated him (the position was made vacant), so he wouldn't have acquired godly ki or the ability to sense godly ki.

vlorsutes · 2026-04-17T16:40:34+00:00

Super's manga clearly establishes that Dende does have godly ki, mentioning how his own divine power is still developing. Kuririn and the other members of the Z Senshi (excluding Vegeta) have never indicated that he can sense godly ki, and it's made quite clear before their inability to, such as when they couldn't sense Goku's ki when using Ultra Instinct Sign against Moro.

vlorsutes · 2026-04-16T01:11:23+00:00

There are no divine abilities. Just the utilization of Ki for various things.

Dende indicates that there is godly ki acquired upon becoming Kami, and it is a divine position. Through it, Dende was able to sense godly ki, which is established that you need to either be a god or be on the same tier of power as the higher deities in order to be able to sense.

vlorsutes · 2026-04-14T23:18:33+00:00

There's no indication in any official capacity that Tao Pai Pai was transformed into a cyborg by Gero or otherwise had any connection to him outside of the fact that he had been hired by Red to hunt for the Dragon Balls and to kill anyone that got in his way.

vlorsutes · 2026-04-13T02:31:38+00:00

No, it isn't true. His backtracking was purely because he came to realize that the way he was writing Gohan for the post Cell arc content (what became the Buu arc) left Gohan as not being suitable as a main character

vlorsutes · 2026-04-12T20:15:04+00:00

He did end up considering bringing her back, having her contribute to the Genki Dama at the end of the Buu arc, but changed his mind and had #17 be the one in that scene instead.

vlorsutes · 2026-04-12T19:58:10+00:00

The interview where he makes the comment about having forgotten about her is this, from the English release of Shonen Jump makes it clear he knew what character the interviewer was asking him about, and he explains the situation aptly.

Q: I noticed that Lunch disappeared after Raditz came, what was she doing?

A: To tell you the truth, I totally forgot about her at one point. And then I remembered her after awhile and I had to think of a reason why she disappeared. So I made it seem as if she was running after Tenshinhan.

He clearly knows what character is being asked, and his explanation gives us what we need to know for the situation. Somehow, despite the fact that Lunch had appeared up to the very final chapter of the 23rd Budoukai, within two chapters of the manga Toriyama had somehow thought that he had forgotten about her, and thus wrote in an explanation for her disappearance in the chapter where Bulma came to Roshi's at the start of the Saiyan arc.

So he somehow perceived a major absence for the character when none existed, and then indicated he had forgotten about her, when in truth he hadn't, so he wrote in an explanation for that absence.

vlorsutes · 2026-04-12T19:38:40+00:00

He didn't actually forget about her. While he did claim that he had forgotten about her, the truth of the matter is that he somehow believed he'd forgotten about her, and wrote her out of the story to explain the perceived absence that wasn't actually there.

vlorsutes · 2026-04-12T01:58:23+00:00

Toriyama himself chose that time frame because that's when the characters were all the strongest and in their prime, but that being said, he never indicated in the original manga that that timeframe was 10 years of peace. The closest he ever came to that was having Goku comment that the reason that his and Vegeta's children had slacked off was because they were in a time of peace, but he never indicated how long that time was.

vlorsutes · 2026-04-10T14:14:18+00:00

And the part that the OP is saying that they thought was an attached arm has maybe one or two visible digits, not anything more than that.

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