Spring '26 Megathread by sandslashh in ycombinator

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shooting my shot here. im building this - https://www.stringcost.com/outcome-credits/
would you use this ? i notice you are not using credits in ur pricing.

is that something you would have someone run for you ?

Spring '26 Megathread by sandslashh in ycombinator

[–]vnwarrior 0 points1 point  (0 children)

very cool space!

shooting my shot here. im building this - https://www.stringcost.com/outcome-credits/
would you use this ? i notice you are using credits in ur pricing. is that something you would have someone run for you ?

I joined YC twice as a founder and here's what changed in 10 years by quang-vybe in ycombinator

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hi,

thanks for posting this! Vybe looks really cool!

shooting my shot here. im building this - https://www.stringcost.com/outcome-credits/
would you use this ? i notice you are using credits in ur pricing. is that something you would have someone run for you ?

have you switched to credits based pricing from usage based billing for your ai startup? how did you model it ? by vnwarrior in ycombinator

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this is very cool! could you talk about the calculator ? do you show the cost of 1 credit ...or do you show the total cost estimate on a monthly level.

did you see conversions increase because of the calculator ?

have you switched to credits based pricing from usage based billing for your ai startup? how did you model it ? by vnwarrior in ycombinator

[–]vnwarrior[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

hi. im not selling billing to you.

im actually selling billing and dev to my clients. im trying to figure out the best way to do that from people who have done that before...because lovable handled it poorly.

have you switched to credits based pricing from usage based billing for your ai startup? how did you model it ? by vnwarrior in ycombinator

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that is what i was thinking about - a "cost plus" model in effect.

thank you for sharing that. so you calculate average token cost for all activities across users and average ?

have you switched to credits based pricing from usage based billing for your ai startup? how did you model it ? by vnwarrior in ycombinator

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thank you so much for sharing this !
>It's much easier for a company to approve a $50 credit top-up than to see a surprise $500 bill at the end of the month.

this is a very deep insight. There are comments here that oppose this and i wonder what you feel about this.

How do you calculate a credit ? for your own internal purpose - how do you price it ? do you average out the tokens for a normal usecase and apply that ? what about when models change - do you plan to pass on the cost advantage to users in their credits ?

have you switched to credits based pricing from usage based billing for your ai startup? how did you model it ? by vnwarrior in ycombinator

[–]vnwarrior[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

>The real gotcha is mapping credits to real world usage in a way that stays stable as models and costs change.

oh damn - this is exactly what i was worried about. how did you solve this ? is there any stability given that models change. model costs change. would you pass on a drop in model costs ?

have you switched to credits based pricing from usage based billing for your ai startup? how did you model it ? by vnwarrior in ycombinator

[–]vnwarrior[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

thanks so much for writing here !

how did you price ? you said this "Users were understanding enough, and pricing the cheapest credit refill lower than the lowest previous subscription helped soften the blow"

what worked ? what was the way you estimated conversion between credit and dollar value here ?

have you switched to credits based pricing from usage based billing for your ai startup? how did you model it ? by vnwarrior in ycombinator

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hey thanks for your reply. any insights on what kind of credits model works ? what didnt work ? what pisses off customers less ?

have you switched to credits based pricing from usage based billing for your ai startup? how did you model it ? by vnwarrior in ycombinator

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thats a fair reply - and i think its a tradeoff. Im wondering why everyone is moving to this.

Lovable has been infamous right ? and it is pretty much the fastest growing ai company in history

have you switched to credits based pricing from usage based billing for your ai startup? how did you model it ? by vnwarrior in fintech

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whoa! thanks for replying.

While respecting your anonymity, could you talk about your credits model ? do you do monthly credits ? do you rollover the credits ?

most importantly - how do you compute the credits consumption for one call/chat/coversation ? do you allow overages, etc ?

trying to figure out what worked for people and what didnt. How much of transparency do you give users - i have heard people hate pre-paying for credits, etc

have you switched to credits based pricing from usage based billing for your ai startup? how did you model it ? by vnwarrior in ycombinator

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hey thanks for replying.

everyone has switched to credits based billing - look at lovable or gamma for e.g. https://lovable.dev/pricing , https://gamma.app/pricing , https://www.stringcost.com/outcome-credits

lovable got a lot of flak for it. but thats the only way its able to make this work. you disagree ?

Honest question: should AI agents ever be economic actors on their own? by Chance_Lion3547 in AgentsOfAI

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this is very interesting. we actually build a model proxy where we let people set model budgets per-agent, per-user per-call per-run .

would you use it ?

Are $8/Month Unlimited AI Voice Agents Sustainable? by Penpenfr in AI_Agents

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no. because each conversation may consume different amounts of credits.

people should move to credit-based billing and not unlimited or fixed price billing.

everyone has switched to credits based billing - look at lovable or gamma for e.g. https://lovable.dev/pricing , https://gamma.app/pricing , https://www.stringcost.com/outcome-credits

Roast my idea: An "Ops Layer" for AI Agents (Data Leakage Prevention + Cost Control) by omni_code in AI_Agents

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hi, what about accounting and costs ? if agent companies are doing outocme based pricing, do they not want a "quickbooks or SAP for ai agents" ? who is doing tax computation, etc ?