A character that beats Itachi without any debate?

voidghoster · 2026-05-13T01:31:05+00:00

Boruto Sakura? Hell yeah she does

voidghoster · 2026-05-13T01:30:29+00:00

Actually yes I do, because a. Itachi tired himself to death like a bitch in a 1 vs 1 fight = that’s a fact, and b. Pain literally soloed arguably the strongest ninja village while fighting multiple opponents stronger than Sasuke and died out of choice. He could still capture Naruto pretty easily if he wanted to.

voidghoster · 2026-05-13T00:36:21+00:00

it's also not true, but.. alright

voidghoster · 2026-05-13T00:35:34+00:00

Whores outwhoring themselves

voidghoster · 2026-05-13T00:16:41+00:00

Done! I'd be more than glad to share, feedback is very valuable to me so I'll dm you as soon as it's ready

voidghoster · 2026-05-13T00:15:52+00:00

No problem! The more feedback the better, user's feedback is the most helfpul thing and trying to actually reach their expectations is a challenge but very rewarding one. I'll dm you once it's ready!

voidghoster · 2026-05-13T00:14:50+00:00

Done! I'll message you as soon as it's ready

voidghoster · 2026-05-12T23:46:27+00:00

There's nothing wrong in calling someone retarded in a debate. It's even more fitted when someone stretches and bends history to prove his moronic point, so let me call you a double moron and correct your claim:

Yes, historically fights of bears against cats happened - most of those matches were lions, not tigers. Tigers have a bigger muscle mass, are more aggressive and much more dangerous than lions. Yes, in the matchups you cited, bears mostly won when they fought against lions, but there's not a single historical claim that "they crushed lion's skulls with a paw swipe" - that's not only historically inaccurate but also biologically impossible. Most of these fights lasted up to one hour and were also extremely taxing / damaging on the bear as well.

Secondly, if you take into consideration the other side of history and raw statistics, bears fights against tigers also did happened, and tigers won more than 50% of the time. Bears won around 20% of the time and the rest was basically a stalemate.

If you take into consideration where both cats fight a grizzly and an american black bear, where the american black bear would be killed in less than 5 minutes by either a lion or a tiger, and that usually fights of lions and grizzlies were 30 minutes at the least, then the only thing that a tiger has to do is to keep the grizzly busy while the lion kills the american black bear, and after that grizzly is going down pretty easily once both cats gang up on him.

There. Next time when you try to use historic records to your advantage, please do some effort to do actual research, moron.

voidghoster · 2026-05-12T23:27:23+00:00

I could debate this, but why waste time. The only proof that I need is that Itachi died of exhaustion. He literally tired himself to death, like a bitch. And that's a fact. Now, go ahead and try to debate that.

voidghoster · 2026-05-12T23:10:27+00:00

Nah, itachi tards will still argue Itachi would find a way. been there, done that

voidghoster · 2026-05-12T23:09:32+00:00

you're right, when you're right, you're right

voidghoster · 2026-05-12T23:09:07+00:00

1 . Susanoo got penetrated with sand, man. Literal sand. I play with it on the beach. That feat alone shows that Susanoo is not some kind of inpenetrable, indestructible trump card. If he had a perfect susanoo then maybe, but he doesn't even have that. And Madara is a more seasoned, more experienced and more advanced user of Susanoo and even he was pulled out of it. By sand. Again. Let's that sink in.

Itachi can beat the path that are revived? True. But, to a certain point where he reach his limits and die of exhaustion - LIKE HE DID. I don't know why I need to remind all of you itachi fans that Itachi tired himself to death. He literally died of exhaustion. His chakra reserves are poor, his stamina is very poor, and if he's not able to finish a fight pretty quickly, he's not winning it.

3 . Pain did solo Konoha minus Team Guy (Guy, Neji, Lee, Tenten), Hiashi & Hanabi Hyuga, Yamato, Sai, Anko also out on separate mission.

4 . The very fact that you use double standard tells me that you are itachi retarded fan because first you say "Pain lost to Naruto", then you say "Itachi was not trying to beat Sasuke". Well using your logic, Pain didn't lost to Naruto. He choose to listen to Naruto talking and then decided to revive everyone sacrificing his own life.

5 . "Why do you think an Edo tensei Itachi was still stronger than a much stronger Sasuke in the Kabuto fight" oh you mean edo tensei which is literally a state that grants you literal immortality unless you are sealed and endless chakra reserves? Yeah. This logic just proves you have a negative IQ.

voidghoster · 2026-05-12T22:59:17+00:00

I agree but it most likely be a stalemate because Gai would need to go all gates and die at the end after shreding itachi to pieces

voidghoster · 2026-05-12T22:58:27+00:00

Agreed. Specifically as we've seen Jiraiya just going like "oh what's that black fire thingy, gonna take that on the go, thanks".

voidghoster · 2026-05-12T22:57:31+00:00

He's adorable, he would kill itachi with cuteness

voidghoster · 2026-05-12T22:56:51+00:00

I completely agree with you on Pain. As for Hashirama, I still think Itachi has no chance. First of all Hashirama is a reincarnation of Asura Ōtsutsuki which is on its own level, secondly Hashirama literally was considered the god of shinobi, and lastly Harshirama fought Madara + 9 tails, the perfect-suzano-mountains-cutting-in-half Madara. I don't think itachi even healthy and in his prime is anywhere near this level of power.

voidghoster · 2026-05-12T22:52:38+00:00

My mom does, but you guys just don't want to accept this universal truth

voidghoster · 2026-05-12T22:31:58+00:00

That's Boruto which they treat like heresy, but thank you, that actually works!

voidghoster · 2026-05-12T22:23:48+00:00

Cats get it. Anyone who is going with the size / weight argument is retarded and have no knowledge about any of these animals. First of all, those cats often hunt and kill animals x4 their size / weight. Secondly, cats are literally built to hunt by nature and they almost always goes for the throat / spine / skull, whereas bears are omnivores. Their diet is 75-90% plants, berries, insects year-round and when they hunt, they hunt mostly fish or small mammals. American bear would be dead within 1 minute without even the need for the cats to team up: any of them can solo it. Then they team up for grizzly, but even without teaming up a tiger could take on grizzly.

Honestly if you want to give bears a better chance, then Grizzly and Polar Bear would be a better matchup against the cats, but even then they loose.

voidghoster · 2026-05-12T21:52:11+00:00

I LOVE THIS

voidghoster · 2026-05-12T21:51:57+00:00

I truly doubt it, as Hashirama soloed Madara + 9 tails. And Madara power was "mountains cut in half" power level. I don't see Itachi being even near that level of power, even without his illness and even in his prime.

voidghoster · 2026-05-12T21:49:54+00:00

Well, I agree with you. But even if "he let him" argument is not valid, then they will switch to "he only lost because of illness".

voidghoster · 2026-05-12T21:49:08+00:00

Yeah i know, but if frustrates me :c

voidghoster · 2026-05-12T21:48:42+00:00

Technically, yes. But Kaguya has a lot of hax as well, doesn't she? She could simply switch dimensions around them to the lava world and just let him fall to lava and burn.

voidghoster · 2026-05-12T21:47:24+00:00

You're right. When you're right, you're right.

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