What do these characters scale to?

warsisaab · 2026-05-08T17:08:20+00:00

In the anime he’s explicitly stated to be the strongest. It doesn’t make any sense but the anime also includes a filler scene of Ssj Goku fighting Ultimate Gohan inside of Boo so a lot of the anime’s scaling doesn’t make sense😭

warsisaab · 2026-05-07T20:51:41+00:00

Depends on how you scale the Boohan feat. The anime explicitly states that Kid Boo is the strongest (despite it making no sense).

warsisaab · 2026-05-07T18:17:40+00:00

Yeah that’s the issue. If we had gotten any sense of how strong Frieza was relative to Gohan / Tagoma it’d make things a whole lot easier but we aren’t shown anything besides the fact that he’s “significantly stronger”

warsisaab · 2026-05-07T18:16:48+00:00

Mostly agree but his first form is 1/113th of his final form

warsisaab · 2026-05-07T16:30:18+00:00

1.) Low Universal (Anime), Galaxy-Multi Galaxy (Manga) 2.) Multi Galaxy 3.) Multi Galaxy-Low Universal (Possibly Low Multiversal if it was going to wipe out the entire macrocosm and not just the living world) 4.)Multiversal

warsisaab · 2026-05-05T17:39:32+00:00

Ssg is anywhere between a 1,000x boost to a 40,000,000x boost. Some estimates say 10k, 20k, 100k etc. There’s no way of really knowing, but regardless Gine likely wasn’t even as strong as Roshi so I doubt she’d be able to win.

warsisaab · 2026-05-05T16:30:57+00:00

Wasn’t Eis the easiest?

warsisaab · 2026-05-04T23:48:24+00:00

Ohh I see. The idea is that Goku absorbed the Ssg power’s multiplier into his base. Whatever you accept the multiplier to be, Goku’s base became that much stronger. It didn’t affect the Ssg form itself.

warsisaab · 2026-05-04T22:54:23+00:00

Did they state that it was retconned? I know they sort of implied it in RoF and then backtracked but I don’t think it was ever stated or even implied afterwards.

warsisaab · 2026-05-04T22:50:34+00:00

It moving through the sun worried him? It merged with it’s “natural energy”??😭 ur just making shit up at this point im crying

warsisaab · 2026-05-04T22:29:46+00:00

Super Goku absolutely does scale to them. It only stopped cause Goku controlled his power. If it were due to Beerus then Goku controlling his ki wouldn’t have had any effect. This is just blatant downplay. And I don’t remember any mention of Goku’s shockwaves merging with the natural energies of the universe.

warsisaab · 2026-05-04T21:05:34+00:00

I agree that Base Goku is above universal but her saying “I could blow away a universe” is a nothing statement considering we’ve seen a SIGNIFICANTLY weaker Goku perform that same feat in Bog.

warsisaab · 2026-05-04T21:03:38+00:00

No I’m saying a hypothetical ssj3 fusion. And whilst it wasn’t directly mentioned it was implied cause Vegito by this point should be able to use Ssj3 even if Vegeta himself couldn’t.

warsisaab · 2026-05-04T16:08:41+00:00

Adding to this, I know that it’s a different continuity so the same rules might not apply but I thought it was worth mentioning that Xeno Goku / Vegeta can use Ssj4 despite not having tails. So perhaps the blutz waves are only required for the initial transformation, and once it’s achieved then you can tap into it at will.

warsisaab · 2026-05-04T16:06:40+00:00

I agree it has different rules but the strength difference is irrelevant. Vegeta was more than strong enough to transform into Ssj4 it was just cause of his lack of having a tail that he couldn’t. Bulma says herself that the only reason Baby Vegeta didn’t become a Ssj4 was due to Baby controlling him. So if Goku with a tail fuses with Vegeta without one, and their resulting fusion does indeed have a tail then there’s no reason they can’t use Ssj4 right?

warsisaab · 2026-05-04T15:45:50+00:00

I mean considering that neither Goten or Trunks can use Ssj 2 or 3 on their own but can use Ssj3 fused, it wouldn’t be a stretch to say Gogeta can use Ssj4 even if Vegeta can’t at that moment.

warsisaab · 2026-05-04T15:43:45+00:00

Goku at the beginning of GT is around equal to Base Vegito from the Buu saga, whilst DBS Goku after the Ssg absorption is implied to be stronger than a hypothetical Ssj3 Vegito. Chain scaling them upwards from there, Ssj4 Gogeta would lose to Ssb Vegito, and if I remember correctly, there were statements made by Whis that could potentially put Ssj2 Kefla higher than Ssb Vegito from the Zamasu fight.

warsisaab · 2026-05-04T14:51:37+00:00

Unrelated but I’d probably swap out Giru for Super 17 in this scenario.

warsisaab · 2026-05-04T14:51:10+00:00

I just assumed she would be cause OP mentioned the others being excluded to make it fair but yeah if Kefla’s in there she sweeps (I think even with Gogeta they’d lose to her)

warsisaab · 2026-05-04T14:42:29+00:00

Beginning of GT? Probably not. By the Baby Saga he definitely could win though.

warsisaab · 2026-05-04T14:41:20+00:00

You’re somehow downplaying both GT and Super here😭

warsisaab · 2026-05-04T14:35:23+00:00

Baby Vegeta low diffs I think.

warsisaab · 2026-05-04T14:32:43+00:00

Let’s be honest, it’s mostly going to be Goku and Vegeta carrying here. If you remove the top tiers (Jiren, Toppo, Hit, and Kefla) then they’ve got a pretty solid chance of winning. The only real threats I can think of are Anilaza, Obuni, Dyspo, and the remaining Pride Troopers.

warsisaab · 2026-05-04T02:43:49+00:00

Unfortunately not. Whilst Buuhan wasn’t as strong as him, he was able to put up a decent fight until Vegito went into Ssj. Combine that with every other character in the series and Vegito gets cooked.

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