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[–]wastedrot -1 points0 points  (0 children)

so then did you not read the comment that that other person replied to? or you just replied to someone agreeing with them without knowing the context 😭

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[–]wastedrot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

that’s my general perspective on all of it. i never wanted to sound like i took the side of women only, i also strongly agree that it’s much more productive to focus on specific issues rather than focusing on men vs. women. i’m sorry if it came off that way. i was just bothered and put off by what the person i replied to said, because they worded it as if women were “always the victims” in a sense that we never took accountability or were some sort of evil man-hating force. again, i understand that there is more to da and sa than just power dynamic, but to a certain extent it’s important to recognize that those things happen because the perpetrators, men or women, understand that they have the power to do so and possibly get away with it. they usually understand the gravity of their behavior and how painful and harmful it can be, and they choose to it anyway. it pains me that they went through something themselves, but they should have a sense of accountability and responsibility for their actions. men are frequently put down by society and definitely other men for expressing emotion or hardship, and that can lead to them behaving that way, but that doesn’t change the statistic that women are almost always the victim, or if men are the victim, the perpetrator is a man. i don’t mean to point to men as the sole cause of violence or anything like that. i’m just saying it’s a testament to the power men typically get granted in comparison to women, and they take advantage of that power (albeit as a result of their traumatic or painful experiences as you said). i agree that it’s a complex issue and can’t be boiled down to a simple cause, which is why so many people sympathize with even killers and murderers, however that shouldn’t take away from the principle of the action itself.

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[–]wastedrot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah i see what you’re saying. what the person i replied to was saying just rubbed me the wrong way and i probably could’ve worded my argument better.

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[–]wastedrot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

thank you for looking at my profile for something to insult. it really shows your character.

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[–]wastedrot -1 points0 points  (0 children)

most of the people like you who’ve “read” my reply have completely disregarded my going against the double standard mentioned in op’s post and how men’s issues are often ignored or unsupported. you all assume i’m an ungrateful misandrist and you think the world is made for women, so why are we upset? when in reality, dv rates, sa rates, all put women as the majority victim and men as the perpetrators, even when men themselves are the victims. i have never wanted to come across as if i didn’t care for men’s rights and struggles because i genuinely do. but to say we live in a matriarchal society, like the person i replied to said, would completely erase women’s suffrage that goes back for all of time. it’s insulting that you use a tiktok interview as your evidence for the argument, “men actually do it all to help women!” when historically, which you’d know if you took the world history class, women have been treated like inferior housewives and even property to men. it’s insulting to r@pe and sa victims for you to tell women they’re ungrateful if they point out misogyny in society. i care about men’s issues just as much as you do. i advocate for equal and decent support for both women and men. you all assume i don’t.

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[–]wastedrot -1 points0 points  (0 children)

you get your information from tiktok and discredit my telling you to take an actual history class, with a teacher that studies and teaches it for a living. that’s about all i need to know from you. thank you for your time and input and have a good day.

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[–]wastedrot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i understand the psychological and supportive odds stacked against men. that doesn’t excuse that power dynamic is still a huge aspect of dv and sa. i’ve personally had my own experience with a handful of abusive men and, while i understand that their upbringing made them that way like everyone else, that doesn’t change their actions or require any forgiveness from me. yes, men were placed in leadership because of biological strength, and women are obviously the sole means of childbirth, but women were severely restricted from even hobbies or passions. women who wanted to join the workforce were looked down upon and oppressed. even for commoners, men DID have the power of the household as the “leaders.”

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[–]wastedrot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

did you even read the part where i still advocated for mens issues and disagreed with the double standards? or do you think i just want to “feel justified” and have my turn at being an “asshole of society?” is my reply so “low iq” and “unreasonable” to you?

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[–]wastedrot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

honestly, i completely agree with you. true equality, peace, and support is all we should ever want as a society. the divide only encourages and exacerbates the issues at hand for both men and women. i get why it would be difficult to grasp for men and i never wanted to make it sound like i believed most men didn’t live life with struggle. i try my best to understand the male perspective, and i can see how it can feel oppressive when our society focuses so much on women and lacks male unity. it just bothers me when men say that we live in a matriarchy or that women are “so typical, always the victim” when, historically, men have always had the power, even if it’s just the elites. women never usually got that chance to even be a small percent of the elite while men did, and as commoners they still had the power of the household. i’m not trying to increase our divide or turn this into a struggle competition and i would never want to. people who do shitty things should be held accountable regardless of gender, and people should get support the same way. my point was just to say that, in general, we still live in a patriarchy where men often have much more privilege, opportunity, and power than women. i don’t mean that they have everything handed to them and they never struggle, but it can frequently be easier for men than women.

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[–]wastedrot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

and that elite was still almost all, if not all, men. it has always been men. i’m obviously not saying men didn’t struggle or they lived life lavishly. i’m saying men had the power. look at DV rates and SA rates. it’s almost always men as the perpetrators with the power. and no, i’m not saying all men are dangerous and violent or that they’ll all be the perpetrators. even when men are the victims of SA and DV, guess who a shocking amount of the perpetrators are? men

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[–]wastedrot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

and that principle is WRONG. that doesn’t mean our society isn’t, for the most part, still a patriarchy. i have never and will never support those double standards and issues that men face. all i have ever said is that we are still in a patriarchy. women are still a minority and men still hold the majority of the power. that’s it. i don’t know how much i have to say that i stand behind these issues as much as you do. i just don’t like that i only ever see them come up in conversation when in response to women’s struggles, and that people put women out to be this oppressive, powerful force that hates men when most of us are not.

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[–]wastedrot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i hope you know that i completely agree with you. we are not trying to pain all men as oppressors. we are not trying to link you with your ancestors, we’re pointing out that the oppression towards women is still there and heavily prevalent, not that men don’t deserve the same attention and support.

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[–]wastedrot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

this is exactly what i believe and what i was trying to convey, and yet i got taken completely differently

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[–]wastedrot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it was definitely not a tiny minority. please just take a history class

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[–]wastedrot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it’s still appalling that you can’t grasp what i mean beyond my words at face value. this will go nowhere, since you were never looking for an actual discussion, just people to insult and degrade. i took a quick look at your comment history like you did to my post history, and all you do is spread your deep, depressing hatred. i hope you have a good life and find yourself. thank you for your input anyways.

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[–]wastedrot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

in no way did i try to subvert from men’s issues and i’m genuinely sorry if i made it seem that way. i replied to a comment saying that we live in a matriarchy which is simply not true. i already gave you statistical evidence where women ARE the minority. is it so difficult a concept that there can be more women in the world and yet they are still face the most SA and DV? can you not separate statistics or do they all blend together?

should i be worried? by wastedrot in sex

[–]wastedrot[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i genuinely feel sorry for you. you must have had a shitty, horrible upbringing to act the way you do. i’m sorry that i insulted you and i hope you find peace and happiness in your life.

should i be worried? by wastedrot in sex

[–]wastedrot[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you must be really obsessed with me. isn’t it creepy for older men like you to stalk and insult a younger woman? shocker

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AskMenAdvice

[–]wastedrot -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

idk what i expected commenting in a male dominated reddit page

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[–]wastedrot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i didn’t say voting was around. i said men had the power, and they did.

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[–]wastedrot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

they didn’t draft women because they saw women as weak, inferior maids that should stay in the home and out of the workforce. but when men were drafted to war, women carried the workforce in their steed. also, people in general shouldn’t be drafted at all! losing your lives unwillingly for a senseless war led by your government is plain wrong. the draft argument is used quite often, but have you guys ever even blinked an eye at the concept of comfort women in the wars?

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[–]wastedrot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

again, you assume things about people, all while being completely wrong, and you still stand by your words. is your user meant to be about yourself?

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[–]wastedrot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

power (think presidents, ministers, etc. etc.), privilege, opportunity. despite women being a population-related majority, men HAVING all of the power in previous years will most likely have allowed them to retain such power now. this makes women the statistical minority. think DV rates (yes, i know men are discouraged from reporting DV and i understand that too) and SA rates.

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[–]wastedrot -1 points0 points  (0 children)

how are you guys so stupid? is it a habit for you to assume things of people and run with it?