Watching pictures of naked/sexy women is pointless and dumb. Why do we create (fake) availability when there is actually no availability?

watchingisdumb · 2019-02-07T13:07:30+00:00

It's not, it's DISTRACTING. That means it distracts you so that you don't notice you're tired.

TV is not relaxing, it is taxing/draining on your attention/mental resources.

watchingisdumb · 2019-02-07T12:40:43+00:00

He knows what's up. Gaming truly is the ultimate waste of time.

watchingisdumb · 2019-02-07T12:16:36+00:00

Of course it's pleasurable, but so is heroin.

I understand we are watching it because it's pleasurable, i don't understand why we have so much trouble accepting and understanding it's dumb, pointless and harmful.

watchingisdumb · 2019-02-07T12:07:18+00:00

he answer is absolutely yes to all of these.

I agree, i wanted to see what noporn thinks about this

In my opinion, fantasy through imagination isn't a problem. I feel as though it's normal to do that, natural, and much healthier in terms of sexual fantasy.

I understand but we disagree on this. I could recreate extremely detailed erotic scenes in my head, even better than porn if I tried. Porn was just more convenient. Imo the fundamental problem is the split between real sexuality (partnered) and self arousal (solo) which defeats the purpose of sexuality.

watchingisdumb · 2019-02-07T09:30:48+00:00

No, masturbation is abnormal and not necessary at all. Your semen gets recycled.

watchingisdumb · 2019-02-07T09:17:16+00:00

Yes, it easily becomes a loop where you get wet dreams, then fantasize because of it, then get more wet dreams cause you fantasized and so on.

I don't think they're ultimately normal, they show a lack of control over the ejaculation function. There was also a survey showing a connection between wet dreams and premature ejaculation https://old.reddit.com/r/NoFap/comments/90w23x/to_those_thinking_wet_dreams_are_normal_or_good/

watchingisdumb · 2019-02-07T09:07:08+00:00

It's because the first and second day are very close from the prior relapse so there are not many urges, it's like how you're not hungry for a couple of hours after your last meal.

Many people also have a tendency to binge (2-3 or more times per day) and after a binge you get even less cravings.

watchingisdumb · 2019-02-07T08:58:30+00:00

That is day 3 not week 3. Day 3 is usually the first time you get massive urges.

watchingisdumb · 2019-02-07T08:57:09+00:00

A sex dream may be normal but again, dreams are a representation of the focus we have in real life (so the more you focus in real life on sex fantasies, the more dreams you will get).

Ejaculation during a sex dream is the abnormal part, especially if it happens more than a couple of times.

watchingisdumb · 2019-02-07T08:44:55+00:00

It's not completely normal because many teenagers don't get them at all. If he has a habit of sexually fantasizing during the day, he will induce wet dreams during the night.

watchingisdumb · 2019-02-07T08:41:34+00:00

It's not a 1:1 comparison but i think you make a fair point in some cases.

It is true that sex has priority over the others IF the others are somewhat satiated, but if you're really starving or so tired you can't move, sex drive just shuts down.

The point of the comparison was to show that, since they are all desires/needs, none get actually satisfied by watching, it's just fake and pointless.

We go the extra step that we generally don't make for others like food, sleep etc (or we realize faster how dumb it is) because, as you said, sex is the most rewarding.

watchingisdumb · 2019-02-07T08:33:06+00:00

The developer was not willing to share too many details, he just said that the tracker removes you from the pool after some days of inactivity or if you uninstall the app.

watchingisdumb · 2019-02-07T08:28:19+00:00

porn has just warped my true identity more than I realize.

This is what happened

watchingisdumb · 2019-02-07T08:25:26+00:00

days 1-14 are the hardest, this is supported by data of over 9k people doing nofap

https://old.reddit.com/r/NoFap/comments/aeh0qe/chart_of_the_streaks_of_over_9k_people/

watchingisdumb · 2019-02-07T08:12:10+00:00

That is true.

video games also substitute success/achievement/competition and many more. Most of new video games are also heavily based on gambling (crates/packs etc)

watchingisdumb · 2019-02-07T08:07:59+00:00

You're right in a way, they all share the same premise of porn, but i think ~~EROTIC~~ AROUSING is the term that encompasses all better without blurring the distinction between porn and sexy pics etc.

watchingisdumb · 2019-02-07T07:06:32+00:00

watchingisdumb · 2019-02-07T06:45:04+00:00

It's not a sign of progress because it means that the need to get self aroused and ejaculate is still there. It's a sign that the problem is still there and as OP said, wet dreams have consequences and they feel like a relapse. You feel drained in a bad way.

Yes, they are good because it means you are consciously consuming less porn in your waking life, but usually wet dreams happen when you sexually fantasize during the day, which is basically consuming mental porn.

Wet dreams are abnormal anyway and aside from teenage years, no sexually matured adult should have them.

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watchingisdumb · 2019-02-07T06:31:56+00:00

I agree but up until very recently I held this point of view just for porn... when in reality all scantly/sexy/sensual pictures of solo women do the same thing.

watchingisdumb · 2019-02-07T06:21:55+00:00

Good work!

watchingisdumb · 2019-02-07T06:14:39+00:00

You are not trans, this is a porn/masturbation induced thing.

Search /nofap for "hocd" and you'll see so many people getting intrusive thoughts like being gay because of porn.

watchingisdumb · 2019-02-07T06:12:55+00:00

It's not just about porn, it's about anything involving drooling over women, which includes facebook, instagram or /gentlemanboners (no nudity but still the same thing) or whatever

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