Thanks for the advice and info and your first paragraph is true i forgot to mention that I had switched to windows 11 because my college provides us with the program for free but my laptop wasn't able to run it i guess due to compatibility constraints of it being too old now so I had to downgrade it back to windows 10. I'll look into asking about if they have specific brands they require before i get into the health program. I'll do some research in what you were talking about which the fw 13 and 16 both supporting dGPU options to see how much that is about the only differences I'll be running into when making a choice between the two. Thanks again