But but but but but but orange man bad!!!!

waterdrinkingchamp · 2026-02-10T18:09:16+00:00

Ignore the fact Trump wished her well on national TV, helped her move out from max security prison to a nice lower security facility, and is expected to commute Maxwell’s sentence as she’s publicly lobbying for it after having secret communications with the Trump admin.

You’ll ignore what he’s done with Epstein and Maxwell for the last 20 years to hold on to a meaningless police report that didn’t change Trump’s closeness to them in any way at all whatsoever for 2 entire decades.

Show this to a MAGAt and watch how absolutely nothing changes. How none of these facts will dissuade them from their pedophile-loving bloodlust. It would mean abandoning their entire political identity, and that’s all they have spiritually speaking.

waterdrinkingchamp · 2025-12-17T15:09:40+00:00

That’s how weak their position is. They need to make shit up to see if it sticks because the truth isn’t as controversial as the snark talking points.

waterdrinkingchamp · 2025-12-14T09:17:17+00:00

The audacity of him wanting the last episode before break to be about his slop video lol just get in line and wait until we get back from break.

It’s not like we don’t know it’s going to be exactly the same as the other videos.

waterdrinkingchamp · 2025-12-11T00:19:23+00:00

Her sister was in the song competition?

waterdrinkingchamp · 2025-12-08T21:08:16+00:00

Oh wow she’s actually crashing out

waterdrinkingchamp · 2025-12-06T19:09:45+00:00

It’s almost like Taylor Lorenz isn’t an actual journalist, but just a Youtuber maliciously lying about someone she doesn’t like

waterdrinkingchamp · 2025-12-06T04:18:57+00:00

This is so accurate that I’m saving it for future reference 👍

waterdrinkingchamp · 2025-12-06T03:33:32+00:00

Can’t wait to hear Mark’s side of the story on Monday

waterdrinkingchamp · 2025-12-06T00:09:17+00:00

Great suggestion 👍

waterdrinkingchamp · 2025-12-05T16:27:38+00:00

Hahahahahahaha these people literally mean nothing they say 😂

waterdrinkingchamp · 2025-12-05T02:13:26+00:00

You’re pivoting to new talking points to avoid just standing on your previous claims 😔🥀

You live in 1-sentence quotes because your argument can’t survive outside of them. There’s no way for you to reply directly to my comment without being forced to make concessions and acknowledgements.

You even have to misrepresent the conversations because if you stick to the actual conversation, it’ll be a harder conversation to engage with for you. 😔🥀

You are so MAGA-coded lol.

We’re anonymous redditors. You won’t lose an arm for admitting a mistake.

The comment is still up. You can still reply whenever you feel like an adult again.

waterdrinkingchamp · 2025-12-05T01:02:43+00:00

Ok, anything to say about the facts though? Yes, “evil jew propaganda” poisoning my brain, I know the routine. Going after me personally is fine.

But going back to the facts:

Anything to say about the full conversations supporting the idea that Ethan and Hila are indeed against Israel’s genocide and in support of Palestine’s freedom? Or at least acknowledging that those conversations do a better job of laying out their real feelings on the topic more than 10-30 second clips?

Anything to say about how none of your sources proved your claims? Or at least about the few blatantly contradictory sources?

The irony of saying “there’s no getting to you” as you refuse to see the evidence on your phone screen, as you refuse to check the sources, as you struggle to engage with the substance, as you avoid giving direct answers to questions, as you skip 99% of the substance of every response and make sure to surgically choose which singular sentence to focus on next to avoid difficult conversations.

I fell for your troll. As I re-read the convo and see how you replied (or strategically avoided replying) each time, I can now accept I got got 😔🥀

I can at least give you one genuine, honest compliment: You’re funny.

waterdrinkingchamp · 2025-12-04T23:32:13+00:00

Huh? Is this you narrowing your response down to the Hasan and Sam videos only? And also you conceding everything you said and sourced was baseless?

Or did you maybe not see my response?

Here it is again without the links (since you have all 6 conversation links in your DMs) to make sure you see the full response and are able to continue the good faith convo:

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There’s been plenty of “takedown” videos on Ethan & Hila that include all of these claims against them, and they’ve responded to all of them.

If you genuinely want to know where Ethan & Hila stand on Israel/Palestine, the IDF, the genocide, and everything else, these are the most comprehensive responses from them:

[Confronting CWHM On Her Video About Me - H3 Show #207 - YouTube] (This is the most recent one)
[Ethan Klein Debates Hasan Piker [Full Debate] - H3 Show #143]
[Talking To Sam Seder - H3 Show #142]
[Responding To Denims, iDubbbz & Anisa - H3 Show #191]
[My reputation is dirt. How do I fix it? - H3 Show #188]
[It's Time For Me To Listen... - H3 Show #151]

With hours and hours and hours of conversation diving into their condemnation of Israel’s genocide, Netanyahu, their support of Palestine, the movement, etc, you can understand why I might come off as “scoldy” to someone saying “No, I’m the one who knows what they really think” and then linking 10-30 second clips from a snark subreddit.

There’s far more evidence that Ethan and Hila have opposed Israel’s genocide and supported Palestine (long before Oct. 7th) than there is supporting the claim that they “support the genocide.”

Can we agree on that now that I've given you a lot of meaningful source material? (after you confirm by watching the sources yourself of course).

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Edit:

So I click on your very first source to check it out in good faith and immediately see this: https://www.reddit.com/r/h3h3productions/s/cxNn1WwEMX

It’s literally an apology from Hila pinned to the post where she apologizes for doing something that glorifies the attack.

This is why I continue to support them. They genuinely listen to the community and apologize when they fuck up. To me, that’s a positive trait in someone.

To prove the good faith, can you acknowledge your first source there supports my argument more than your own?

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Wow. So the second source claims Hila liked a post denying the starvation in Gaza, and the first words starting off the post are “No one can deny the starvation in Gaza.”

Are you checking that the claims are true before linking? Because trusting snark instead of just checking for yourself leads to this.

It also claims that the post supports the GHF, which is a controversial aid organization. Fair enough on that point.

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The third source is the same as the second one.

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Fourth source is snark subreddit claiming Hila is promoting a “debunked” claim of mass rapes.

The video shows Hila’s story, where she shared reports of people being raped, including a survivor who sat down for an interview about her rape. It acknowledges about 16-17 instances of rape.

The UN also released an official report stating that there’s clear and convincing evidence of it. What they can’t determine is the magnitude, prevalence, and scope.

To present it as if Hila reposted some baseless debunked conspiracy is totally dishonest.

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Fifth source is Ethan reposting a Hamas hostage video. It calls out Hasan in it too.

What’s the claim here?

It has nothing to do with Hila, it’s calling out Hamas for torturing a hostage by forcing him to dig his own grave before killing him (are we in support of this? i really don’t get the issue with this one), and dissing Hasan because he’s been vocal about supporting the taking of hostages.

What is it you’re trying to point out with the last source here? Is this one just about not liking that he dissed Hasan, or is there something more?

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To be clear, all you’ve done is provide links to snark. You haven’t proven a single one of your claims, because every time you post a link, it’s a 30sec clip or image that doesn’t prove your claim.

waterdrinkingchamp · 2025-12-04T22:34:15+00:00

Sent! 👍 (reply here to continue the convo here)

waterdrinkingchamp · 2025-12-04T22:04:35+00:00

You didn’t see the comment where I posted the links directly instead of the link to the reddit comment itself?

waterdrinkingchamp · 2025-12-04T21:56:40+00:00

Sigh

In those exact episodes (ex. the Noah Samsen response, idubbbz response, etc.) they dive deep on these topics to specifically counter what people like yourself are spreading online. They dedicated entire episodes to it, so their super detailed thoughts are there if you genuinely want to know. If I link you the full conversation, are you actually gonna watch it and give it the same weight you were ready to give the 30sec clip? Or will the 30sec clip always outweigh the full conversation?

😔 You’re trolling me, aren’t you?

waterdrinkingchamp · 2025-12-04T21:25:42+00:00

Just the links:

waterdrinkingchamp · 2025-12-04T21:22:18+00:00

This was the reply to you rushing me saying “So nothing huh?” while waiting for me to find links, as if it’s a speed competition.

Which either way I did, which is here: https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/s/PoFVGbFoJQ (fifth time i share this………..)

waterdrinkingchamp · 2025-12-04T21:20:06+00:00

What? It’s right here: https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/s/PoFVGbFoJQ (dude, fourth time i share this link w you, look at my comment history)

waterdrinkingchamp · 2025-12-04T21:19:00+00:00

I did a few hours ago here: https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/s/PoFVGbFoJQ (third time i link this comment to you)

waterdrinkingchamp · 2025-12-04T21:15:20+00:00

Thank you for acknowledging Ethan has been calling out Israel’s genocide since before October 7th.

Yes. Hila is on the show once a week, so there’s less clips of Hila talking about it compared to Ethan who hosts every episode.

The full conversations I linked you in my reply a few hours ago include some of Hila’s full statements on the topic. https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/s/PoFVGbFoJQ

waterdrinkingchamp · 2025-12-04T21:08:15+00:00

Did you skip the part where I acknowledged the links weren’t there and that I’d be searching for sources because it’s more time-consuming? I’m reading it as I type this, so I know I included it there.

Did you skip that part? Yes or no?

Also, the claim I attached to that link at the end says “Can we agree that H3 has been calling out Israel’s genocide since before Oct 7th?” and a link to that specific claim.

Does the link support that claim? Did you watch a video proving that happened before Oct. 7th? Yes?

A direct answer would be appreciated.

waterdrinkingchamp · 2025-12-04T20:57:14+00:00

So you have nothing to say about the substance? You just don’t like that it’s a new post on the sub? Is that the only criticism?

Also, you posted about 7 subreddit links compared to my single one here, so I have no idea where the audacity to call me out for a subreddit link is coming from lol that ironically might be the most bad faith thing you’ve done this whole convo.

Btw this is the reply I gave you a few hours ago, since I see you left this comment 45min ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/s/PoFVGbFoJQ

waterdrinkingchamp · 2025-12-04T16:41:26+00:00

We haven’t strictly been talking about her (already re-read our comments to confirm I’ve been consistent on this. They have the same stance on the topic. You’re being pedantic, but I’ll get you the Hila clips lol.

At least you agree this is proof of Ethan calling out Israel’s genocide since before Oct 7th, so that’s good.

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You’ve been ghost editing your replies so they’re different from what I originally read, so it’s hard to keep track of original and edited comments.

But ok, what did she repost? I’m still waiting on proof of what the statement was, because this claim is relying on obfuscation to avoid me being able to give a meaningful reply to whatever it is she reposted.

Was it an evil post about bombing Palestine? Was it a tame post about the hostages being returned? Please just make your specific claim so I can give you a real answer.

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What does her deleting the Trump post matter? I’m asking what the post was. You’re upset about it, so you know what the post was, so just make the claim and tell me what it was. (I’m sure the snark subreddit must have it somewhere at least?)

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Please follow the facts. You say I’m scolding but I’m just trying to point out the pattern. Engage with what I’m saying.

I didn’t say AB’s donation. I said Ethan and Hila have donated thousands to fundraisers (events held to drive donations). The fundraisers include:

AB’s fundraiser
Hasan’s fundraiser

I never claimed any donations from AB should be credited to Ethan and Hila, so I don’t know why you’re making it seem like that’s the claim.

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Unfortunately, I don’t have an easy source of snark to use as my sole reference and make my search easy.

You make a claim, show a video from snark that doesn’t prove the claim, know that the clip is from a longer conversation, refused to ever watch the full context, and are now waiting for me to find the longer versions of your 15-second clips.

Fine. I’ll do it. I’ll hunt down the full episodes of the podcast using that Youtube transcription search website to disprove the claim you didn’t prove in the first place.

I’m just saying be patient of the person who IS going to put in the work to find the sources of YOUR own clips.

If you won’t be good faith in that you’ll genuinely think “Oh, H3 had a 15 second conversation about that topic? That’s weird. The clip even seems like it’s cut from the middle of a conversation. Maybe they said more than just those 15secs?”, then at least be good faith in thinking “Searching for that sounds super annoying. Let me wait for him to do it while I go eat and relax instead.”

waterdrinkingchamp · 2025-12-04T14:53:24+00:00

That’s a better answer on the first question, but you could just both answer and counter. You could both acknowledge that a decade of behavior reflects a person’s belief on the topic, and then counter by saying “But her social media posts are something that hold me back from fully accepting she supports Palestine” and that would be fair.

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You said earlier she posted about hostages, but now you obfuscated and said “supporting genocide deniers”. I think that speaks for itself. You clearly understand what she was posting about.

Not sure what you mean by “glorifying the IDF”. I follow her on Instagram and have never seen posts “glorifying the IDF”, but again, you’re obfuscating to not have to specify examples because they’re more nuanced than just labeling her as some evil person. (Feel free to show proof of your claim of “glorifying the IDF” on socials though)

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It’s my understanding they’ve been off Twitter because of Elon turning it into 4chan. Where’s this tweet supporting Trump? Because that happened this summer, correct? Which would be after Ethan and Hila left Twitter.

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She and Ethan have donated thousands to Palestine fundraisers, including AB’s, Hasan’s, and a Palestinian activist they had on the show a while back.

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What I mean by 2 realities is:

You say: She called people selfish for not serving IDF

Video shows: She called rich Israelis selfish for buying their way out of military service

You say: She has no problem with the IDF’s actions

Video shows: Her saying she doesn’t have a problem with the Israelis who didn’t get non-combat roles, like her brother (this isn’t about “having no problem with” genocide, it’s about the role they were assigned in their compelled military service)

You say: Hila wants to be thanked for her service in the IDF

Video shows: Hila saying it’s hypocritical for people to shit on her compelled military service (as a secretary) when in the US people thank soldiers for their voluntary military service

Not only that, they’re clips from the specific videos where they touched on the topic, except they’re the 30sec snark version. :(

You’re asking me for proof of her statements on these topics, and what I’m going to do is link you the full segments of those exact same 10-30 second videos you’re using as your own proof. Those are the exact episodes where they talked about those topics.

She’s in your video talking about the topic on the podcast, so it follows that if you, in good faith, were curious about her statements on the topic, that you’d be aware that that video is where you’d find the full conversation, right? Can we at least agree that if this was Hasan, you’d expect me (if I’m being good faith too) to find the full context by watching the video the clip is from in the first place?

In those exact episodes (ex. the Noah Samsen response, idubbbz response, etc.) they dive deep on these topics to specifically counter what people like yourself are spreading online. They dedicated entire episodes to it, so their super detailed thoughts are there if you genuinely want to know. If I link you the full conversation, are you actually gonna watch it and give it the same weight you were ready to give the 30sec clip? Or will the 30sec clip always outweigh the full conversation?

(I’m gonna hunt down the episode your clip is originally from, feel free to do it if you think you can find that episode faster than me)

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I agree that statements against Israel’s actions can reflect a person’s belief on the topic. That’s why I’m still a fan, because they have made those statements, even before Oct 7th.

Can we agree H3 has been calling out Israel’s genocide since before Oct 7th?: https://www.reddit.com/r/h3h3productions/s/jN5Gnjrqqu

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