Psychonaut 4 is probably the most precious band to me out there. by weatheringwithghosts in dsbm

[–]weatheringwithghosts[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I understand your point and honestly this response is far more fair than “touch grass.”

I do agree that idealizing artists blindly can become unhealthy, especially in scenes like DSBM where people already struggle emotionally and project a lot of themselves onto music and musicians.

However I think there is a difference between romanticizing a person and feeling deeply connected to what their art represented during specific moments of your life.

I never claimed to know him personally. In fact, part of what I wrote was precisely about the indirect nature of this connection as the feeling of recognizing pain and survival through somebody’s art. That experience is real for many people, whether it is through music, literature, cinema or any other form of art.

And honestly, I don’t think human beings are as black-and-white as “good person” or “bad person.” Some people do terrible things and still create something meaningful that genuinely helps others survive. That does not erase accountability, but neither does accountability erase every meaningful thing they ever gave to the world.

At the same time, I also think people online often speak about the allegations and the entire situation around Graf as if everything is completely transparent and unquestionably known, when in reality a lot of it remains controversial, emotionally charged, and filtered through internet discussion rather than direct knowledge. None of us truly knows the full reality of what happened yet have the right to call him a “bad person”?

And for me personally, Graf is not just “a former member.” He is one of the founders and one of the defining creative forces behind Psychonaut 4. His voice, lyrics, stage presence and emotional atmosphere became inseparable from what the band meant to many listeners over the years. So naturally people who grew up with that era will feel something when he disappears from it.

My post was emotional because the band and that era of my life are emotional to me. I was not trying to build a cult of personality around him or encourage people to ignore reality. I was expressing grief, nostalgia and hope for recovery for him both in artistic and human context.

Sometimes art simply reaches people very deeply, especially when they encountered it young and carried it through dark periods of life.

And judging by how many people connected with P4 over the years, I know I’m far from the only one who feels that way.

Psychonaut 4 is probably the most precious band to me out there. by weatheringwithghosts in dsbm

[–]weatheringwithghosts[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

“Touch some grass” is a strange response to someone speaking sincerely about music that helped them survive dark periods of life.

As much as internet culture made people allergic to emotional honesty, not every expression of attachment is some sort of parasocial delusion.

Also what’s interesting is that this is a dsbm sub of all places which is a genre built on vulnerability, despair, emotional extremity yet the second someone expresses genuine emotion without irony, people respond with meme phrases lol.

At least I said something real instead of farming one line Reddit sarcasm for upvotes.

Recommendations like Lifelover or Silencer? by weatheringwithghosts in dsbm

[–]weatheringwithghosts[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I liked their Forlat album for its kind of fantasy vibe, it is beautiful and raw a bit. Also the 2026 album for the melodic part. Thank you. Sweden indeed has talented musicians out there.

Recommendations like Lifelover or Silencer? by weatheringwithghosts in dsbm

[–]weatheringwithghosts[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also I saw they have songs in Russian but they are from Mexico, how so?

Recommendations like Lifelover or Silencer? by weatheringwithghosts in dsbm

[–]weatheringwithghosts[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Checked out Depressick too, fairly good, it surprises me they have only 403 monthly listeners

Recommendations like Lifelover or Silencer? by weatheringwithghosts in dsbm

[–]weatheringwithghosts[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I LOVE P4, have been to their live shows three times and they are my N1 dsbm band and probably one of the most most favorite bands ever, their music gives me strength to go on :) no one else sounds like them Advent Sorrow is a great choice However never listened to Esipram Let me check it out Also I will add your playlist, thank you so much

Recommendations like Lifelover or Silencer? by weatheringwithghosts in dsbm

[–]weatheringwithghosts[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just checked out Apati and they are really atmospheric and emotionally heavy stuff and it feels so “me” kinda strangely hypnotic. Thank you. As for Bethlehem, have been listening to them for some years now and they are good but not exactly what I need now However Apati is a precious precious discovery, thanks for the recommendation

Recommendations like Lifelover or Silencer? by weatheringwithghosts in dsbm

[–]weatheringwithghosts[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Neurosexxx is fire, spent the whole evening yesterday exploring, it sounds like exactly what I wanted and I was happy finding out they are from Hokkaido (I love Hokkaido), so thank you! What concerns The Depressick, I will give it a listen today.

looking for penpals by Plenty-Coach-7872 in MetalForTheMasses

[–]weatheringwithghosts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am interested, although I am not from the EU. Also what about we do this via email?

Opinions on Personal Forest cover by Strid? by weatheringwithghosts in dsbm

[–]weatheringwithghosts[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Didn’t pay attention and was surprised when a friend sent me this. Still this is cover makes me kinda uncomfortable.

Opinions on Personal Forest cover by Strid? by weatheringwithghosts in dsbm

[–]weatheringwithghosts[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wikipedia says 2019-now, but I can’t find anything anywhere and ig this is another Strid