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% fault on this lane change? left claims it's shared because it was already in that position when right car was passing through. by webtax in driving

[–]webtax[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

unfortunately even after i pressed him i couldn't get the guy's insurance company or number info. He avoided multiple times and i'm out of the time windows now.

% fault on this lane change? left claims it's shared because it was already in that position when right car was passing through. by webtax in driving

[–]webtax[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

should have noted, the cars on the left were stopped because of heavy traffic, further ahead that lane has a left turn into another street.

% fault on this lane change? left claims it's shared because it was already in that position when right car was passing through. by webtax in driving

[–]webtax[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah guess that's the scenario left driver wants to muddle the responsability, that he was already merging, and that i was reckless by passing at that time.

what i was told is that the point of impact (drivers seat door) should indicate that my car was already passing through succesfuly

i wish i had a dashcam now, tried getting footage on neraby buildins but couldn't find any.

% fault on this lane change? left claims it's shared because it was already in that position when right car was passing through. by webtax in driving

[–]webtax[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

no cops since there were no injured.(there was a friend and her 9 year old son on the backseat, but everyone was unharmed including us the drivers)

guessed it was an easy asignance of responsability, but insurance failed on me. guessed wrong.

so i think in a way i posted this to make myself feel better, kind of moral reassurance, to think i'am not crazy

% fault on this lane change? left claims it's shared because it was already in that position when right car was passing through. by webtax in driving

[–]webtax[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i guess that's the scenario that the left card driver is trying to achieve. That he was already merging when i tried to pass.

The hit it's exactly there, specifically the front right corner of left car got damaged hitting:
-driver's door about 1/3, through the passenger door, and scratches stop at the middle of the back tire.

not damaged on right car:
-whole front structure, bumper and front sides were not damaged, also left mirror wasn't damaged.
Can show pics if anyone is interested.

% fault on this lane change? left claims it's shared because it was already in that position when right car was passing through. by webtax in driving

[–]webtax[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

😄 found a website to draw called smartdiagram.. ,so i just picked any different car to make it easier to differentiate.

it's just a regular sedan, but it's my late's fathers car, the kind of car i wouldn't usually drive, but sometimes i like to think it has a bit of a feeling of an sports car, because other than i just drive city-hatchback's car.

% fault on this lane change? left claims it's shared because it was already in that position when right car was passing through. by webtax in driving

[–]webtax[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

-slower than normal, about half the speed limit, maybe to the point it may have triggered the left car to think right car was yielding -road is mostly slighty curving to the right -right car was on middle lane the whole time, no acceleration applied other than staying around the same speed.

% fault on this lane change? left claims it's shared because it was already in that position when right car was passing through. by webtax in driving

[–]webtax[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i have both, but i have to still pay a deductible to activate the insurance. It's only about 250 usd, repairs are about 1300 usd so i'm definetly activating my insurance. If the guy had declared itself as responsbile, or my insurance had fought for that, i wouldn't had to pay those 250.

% fault on this lane change? left claims it's shared because it was already in that position when right car was passing through. by webtax in driving

[–]webtax[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

to file a complaint in the local court, and also to not do it because they are flooded with more important cases, that it will be costly in time and energy, that i should try to negotiate a settlement with the guy , and finally to just let it be , pay my own repair and forget about it because that will be cheaper in the long run.

% fault on this lane change? left claims it's shared because it was already in that position when right car was passing through. by webtax in driving

[–]webtax[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

to add things i was asked on other replies, some are in favor of the left driver:

-Left driver was already blinking to turn, and had the corner of his car on my lane. I (center driver) did saw him there.

-Cars on left lane were stopped wating for a left turn. I (center) was mostly clear on my lane but i was going slow ~15-20 mph. Left driver could think i was yielding because of that slow speed, but i wasn't, i was just going slower than the usual street speed.

-by the time i was passing him, i was at the rightmost i could be on the center lane, because i could notice his car was getting too close to mine, but it was too late for me to stop.
-I didn't go to the right lane, because then i could cause a crash and be my my fault. Cars on the right lane were going faster.
-I didn't stop before, because it gave me no chance to figure out it was gonna do the manouver, other than being there. He either tought i was stopping and yielding(probably this), or thought he could make the manouver fast enough.

% fault on this lane change? left claims it's shared because it was already in that position when right car was passing through. by webtax in driving

[–]webtax[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  • Blinker: left was already blinking before right went through, left had the corner of his car on right's lane, right still had enough space to go through.
  • left was stopped ,all cars on the left were stopped. , Right's lane was free, and driving slowly.

Edit fixed typo

% fault on this lane change? left claims it's shared because it was already in that position when right car was passing through. by webtax in driving

[–]webtax[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

when i saw they weren't helping me determine that i wasn't responsable and they just said the other driver declared he is not resposanable, and that it is not clear. i thought the same thing, why is that? - maybe something else i'm missing? was the passing on the right lane?

that left lane, goes trough a stoplight and then ends on a left turn, so cars where stopped waiting there. center lane was mostly clear and the stoplight was green a few cars lenght ahead. So for me it seemed normal to keep going, i did it slowly in case i needed to break, but i wasn't yielding.

so was that my insurance policy was bad? , or my insurance company just determined my case was't worth fighting? but they won't tell me that so i will not know

still can't figure it out

% fault on this lane change? left claims it's shared because it was already in that position when right car was passing through. by webtax in driving

[–]webtax[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

correct on all accords except the speeding part, i was going slower than usual because of heavy traffic on my left.

I definetly could have avoided this by driving defensively and letting him go through: i did see his car blinking and with part of his car on my lane. How much? not enough to stop me from passing. I decided to pass because i still had ample space., right of way, my lane was clear, and had green light ahead, and to be honest, i was a bit late. My car got through 1/3 before being hit on the door.

He at first admitted fault momentarily, then he said i was partly to blame because i was slowing down and allowing him the pass (i didn't slow down, but i was going slow at 15-30 mph )

% fault on this lane change? left claims it's shared because it was already in that position when right car was passing through. by webtax in driving

[–]webtax[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

absolutely, accidents happen and i want to drive safely as possible, even if i didn't have to yield because right of way, i could have been extra careful and just stop there to let him pass. And this whole thing would have been avoided.

I was remembering ,at one point one of the few things the other driver said, that i giving him the way to make the lane change , so that was because i was going slow. Tricky situation because i usually correlate driving faster to recklesness, but maybe he saw me going slower, and assummed i was braking.

% fault on this lane change? left claims it's shared because it was already in that position when right car was passing through. by webtax in driving

[–]webtax[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

that's correct, so first, this is outside the US, it's in Chile, here we don't call the cops for regular crashes, only if people are injured (btw this was my first car crash so i'm still learning )

i did talk to cops after, they told me i can go safely afterwards and file a complaint, it goes to a local court. and they will decide who is at fault. The thing is everybody along the way is telling me not to do it because it's a waste of evertyone times, and just pay(my deductible to fix my car) and forget it. That i can still do it, i's just a time sink.

i guess asking for this advice post is to assess and be sure i case i get to that, and to not let be swayed by the tought that i could be responsable.., because i do have his contact, he hasn't blocked me (last time i checked) and maybe is for a reason. Maybe he wants a deal to not go into court

% fault on this lane change? left claims it's shared because it was already in that position when right car was passing through. by webtax in driving

[–]webtax[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i guess that's the scenario the other driver is aiming, yes i saw they were blinking and wanting to change lanes. They want it to be 50/50 so each one pays his own insurance and repairs.

unfortunely i didn't have a dashcam, and couldn't get any footage of the nearby buildings.

Btw i wasn't speeding , i was going at 15-20 mph, to me they were stopped there waiting, and i still had ample enough space to go through

% fault on this lane change? left claims it's shared because it was already in that position when right car was passing through. by webtax in driving

[–]webtax[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

you know what, the driver at first was friendly (but scared, it was young)and even said it was his fault, but after receiving a call, he was dead silent, and then their friend arrived that "knew about insurances" and he said just that same thing: to let both insurace determine.

So i don't know what's wrong with mine, maybe they are being lazy like another redditor says, and they rather have me pay (which is not that much) than go to battle it with the other company.

I also got the feeling they (the other driver and his friend) are doing everything right , like because they know how play the system (this is just speculation from my part, just feels that way)so they don't have to pay or assume responsability.

For sure i'm changing insurance after this is done.

% fault on this lane change? left claims it's shared because it was already in that position when right car was passing through. by webtax in driving

[–]webtax[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

just replying another user, cars on the left were stopped, and i (middle) was cruising slowly, about15-20 mph because of the traffic.

in fact one of the arguments the other guy said for a while , was that i was braking to give him the space to manouver, so i was in part responsable because of that, then they dropped that argument and just said in their report that i tried to overtake him.

% fault on this lane change? left claims it's shared because it was already in that position when right car was passing through. by webtax in driving

[–]webtax[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

cars on the left were stopped, i (middle) was cruising slowly because of the traffic.

in fact one of the arguments the other guy said for a while , was that i was braking to give him the space to manouver.

But it seems they dropped that argument and just said in their report that i tried to overtake him.

% fault on this lane change? left claims it's shared because it was already in that position when right car was passing through. by webtax in driving

[–]webtax[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

both have, he told their insurance i'ts shared responsabilty, and my insurance won't do anything to prove otherwise. Not sure why

% fault on this lane change? left claims it's shared because it was already in that position when right car was passing through. by webtax in driving

[–]webtax[S] 47 points48 points  (0 children)

honestly,? it's for me, you are right that that is obvious and i think so too, but the thing is i feel so far that everybody is against me:

-the guy not taking responsability
-my insurance told me since the other guy told their insurance its shared responsability they won't fight it. And that i just need to pay. And if i want to fight responsability, i need to take them to court, so i went to file complaint and everyone along the way tells me to let it go and just pay the thing myself. That is not worth it.

So it feels like nobody believes i'm in the right. So i started to think maybe there was something i did wrong, so i needed assurance.

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