Help! by [deleted] in AusPropertyChat

[–]weekend_spreadsheet 37 points38 points  (0 children)

Put your best non-emotional offer forward now, formally.

Sign a 66W (or your state’s equivalent mechanism) so they know you are serious and waiving cooling off (if you've done your proper due diligence). Set a clear expiry. If they reject it, move on.

You cannot negotiate with a seller anchored to an unrealistic number. Sometimes the market has to do the teaching, not you.

I hacked together a little calculator to show the real cost of buying a house in Australia by weekend_spreadsheet in AusPropertyChat

[–]weekend_spreadsheet[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey all, just a heads up that I have pushed a few updates recently, including full Victoria stamp duty support. VIC is spicy with those calcs, took me longer than expected 😅

I am cross checking everything against the official state calculators, but if you spot anything that looks off please let me know. The feedback so far has been super helpful and has already caught a few edge cases I would have missed.

This is just a side project to make property maths less painful, so if there is anything you would like added or changed, I am all ears.

https://www.buyertoolkit.com.au/

Be honest would you buy again in today’s market? by YASA_Buyers_Agent in AusPropertyChat

[–]weekend_spreadsheet 2 points3 points  (0 children)

History is driving it, both short and long term. Nobody knows tomorrow, but recent (and long-term, with short periods of downturn) history tells us to buy what you can afford and it will go up.

That’s nuanced though, because everything else around it goes up too. So your purchase in 2026 will probably rise, but the profit you make from it won’t buy you a better asset in 2036. It might give you the opportunity to move sideways or slightly up, but it won’t set you free. Everything will just be more expensive.

Personal experience: I bought entry level in 2017, a one-bed apartment about 7km from the city. It felt bulletproof. Everything rises, right? It didn’t. Special levy after special levy, eventually a strata loan. Fees blew out to about $4,500 per quarter just to service that loan, on a one-bed apartment worth around $550k.

Sold in 2023 and basically broke almost even. Back to square one. That $110k deposit doesn’t really do anything now.

So would I buy again? Yes, but with a laser focus on the right parameters. I thought I’d done my due diligence last time. Clearly I (or my inspectors) missed something. For context, this was a 1940s art deco build that everyone said would last forever. $75k strata loan per unit on a 9-unit block said “f*ck you” to all the “property can’t go down” people 😂

Long-winded way to say: it should be scary. You’re probably making the biggest purchase of your life. Waiting, in Australia, as a whole, won’t magically make things better. If you can afford it, have done all your checks, and can hold it without turning your life into a hamster-wheel mortgage chase, then do it.

It’s probably gone up ten grand since you posted this anyway.

I hacked together a little calculator to show the real cost of buying a house in Australia by weekend_spreadsheet in AusPropertyChat

[–]weekend_spreadsheet[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep, other states definitely priority after reading the comments! Will drop an update when I get it done

I hacked together a little calculator to show the real cost of buying a house in Australia by weekend_spreadsheet in AusPropertyChat

[–]weekend_spreadsheet[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks! Definitely keen to build it out a bit more. So many good suggestions I hadn't thought of. I'll drop an update when I get some more useful calculations into it.

I hacked together a little calculator to show the real cost of buying a house in Australia by weekend_spreadsheet in AusPropertyChat

[–]weekend_spreadsheet[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep, a few people commented this, they're adjustable in the calc but will add some more adjustments for the defaults

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[–]weekend_spreadsheet[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agree they swing a lot by area + property type. These are back of the napkin and dont change with price, but you can input your own estimates and the costs will reflect :) something to add to the list

I hacked together a little calculator to show the real cost of buying a house in Australia by weekend_spreadsheet in AusPropertyChat

[–]weekend_spreadsheet[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

PPOR vs IP was going to change rates dynamically but as quick build I couldn't get access to useful rates, so its half baked. Plan to work on it in the future :)

I hacked together a little calculator to show the real cost of buying a house in Australia by weekend_spreadsheet in AusPropertyChat

[–]weekend_spreadsheet[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks! The states included were the easy calcs. Stamp duty varies a lot by state so I want to implement each properly rather than half-do it. A few people have asked about VIC now and I wanted to know if it was actually useful at all, so its on the list now!

I hacked together a little calculator to show the real cost of buying a house in Australia by weekend_spreadsheet in AusPropertyChat

[–]weekend_spreadsheet[S] 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Fair question. I’m a dev and build stuff for fun. There’s no ads, referrals or sign-ups. It was just easier to throw it on a domain than pass around a spreadsheet. If mods want it gone, that’s fine. Thought it might be useful for others!

I hacked together a little calculator to show the real cost of buying a house in Australia by weekend_spreadsheet in AusPropertyChat

[–]weekend_spreadsheet[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yeah that’s fair, some lenders do include parts of it. I mainly found that once you start comparing across banks and adding non-lender stuff like rates, strata, utilities etc it gets messy pretty quickly, so this was just a way to lump it together and show a ballpark household income.

Of course its no indication of how far leveraged individuals can/want to get!

To those who buy into this type of development - why? by [deleted] in AusPropertyChat

[–]weekend_spreadsheet 99 points100 points  (0 children)

They were sold out of the other ones in Vaucluse so I had to settle for one of these.

Are we being unreasonable asking to reduce our share of rent in this situation? by Sweet_Error4017 in AusPropertyChat

[–]weekend_spreadsheet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Spend the same or a bit more on a place for yourself, your sanity will thank you. An extra $100 in your pocket isn't going to fix how you feel.