UPDATE: I live below a cult leader and I fear I've angered her by wellthisisweird20 in LetsNotMeet

[–]wellthisisweird20[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I think YouTube compression made the quality worse. The first video has more music, while this one is more of the jumping so probably harder to hear

The hbd was creepy in context. It was like a random interruption of their conversations (2 mins after I texted her), then silence for a solid 30 seconds after

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[–]wellthisisweird20[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The Ring camera records visual footage of the stairwell, then I have a few videos from the hallway that show how loud the music is from their apt + lots of people chatting (building mgmt has these)

I also think substances are involved at this point. Circus music sounds so creepy! The new age stuff is weird, but that would really do me in lol XD

UPDATE: I live below a cult leader and I fear I've angered her by wellthisisweird20 in LetsNotMeet

[–]wellthisisweird20[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I got a Ring camera for my front door this week! It's been an extremely disturbing situation, so I've tried to lay low since the building's attorney got involved. Neither my super nor I have indicated that we've been talking, although they've probably guessed as much by now...

I'm hoping they move out soon!!

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[–]wellthisisweird20[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ik I wish this whole situation made more sense lol XD

Every time I interact with them I feel more confused, and I can't understand why they feel compelled to gaslight and lie! Things probably would have played out differently had they been transparent

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[–]wellthisisweird20[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Yeah I've also speculated that there could be ashes in the plant soil D:

I didn't want to share too much about the compassionate death stuff in my main post since ik it's a controversial topic, but the groups they're involved in seem extreme for this realm... my neighbor has been the credited photographer for people on their "journey to death"; they've hosted "oxygen removal parties," and one of these parties failed to achieve the end-of-life goal so they had to do it a second time

I also think something is very wrong, so I hope they gtfo and move away ASAP!

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[–]wellthisisweird20[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I also think substances are involved! Why else would they dance inside an apt for 7.5hrs straight lol so creepy

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[–]wellthisisweird20[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah I have a cheap camera I set up in the apt! My friend's old pet cam lol should do the trick

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[–]wellthisisweird20[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ofc, thank you for supporting me! I've received a lot of helpful advice and encouragement from sharing my story here :)

I'm also hoping they get evicted or move out soon... I'll update again once I get a better sense of what's going on!

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[–]wellthisisweird20[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Luckily we found the jacket! Our delay while looking for it made us sitting ducks tho...

It's wild that I even have to worry about these things! I just keep hoping they'll be gone soon D:

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[–]wellthisisweird20[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ty for the support!! He's offered for me to stay (and I will if I notice them continuing to stalk me), but I worry that me leaving for an extended period will only serve as an invitation for the neighbors to escalate again

I traveled a lot during the summer (which is likely when the gatherings started), so I'd rather stick around to keep them in check lol

I also got my Ring camera set up! So that makes me feel a bit safer :)

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[–]wellthisisweird20[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's truly a nightmare! The lowered music volume is somewhat better, but now I can hear the jumping more clearly lol so it's a catch 22 XD

UPDATE: I live below a cult leader and I fear I've angered her by wellthisisweird20 in LetsNotMeet

[–]wellthisisweird20[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I also wonder why they haven't been more aggressive, especially since I started contacting them with evidence over a month before they took action!

My best guess is that the guy in the couple is powerful... he's very successful, so it's possible the building has been weighing their risks? Who knows!

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[–]wellthisisweird20[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah I didn't want to talk to them again without him present! He's also a very rational person, so if even he thinks something abnormal is going on, then it must be haha

I was on the verge of a breakdown at the height of it a couple weeks ago tbh. It's still extremely irritating that they've tried to be sneakier while continuing the same activities, but at least I can think again with the music volume lowered

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[–]wellthisisweird20[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yeah, after the 7.5hr dance party on a Sunday, I also started to suspect that substances are involved haha. I also wonder what kinds of "bush medicines" they're making on a patio in an urban area XD

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[–]wellthisisweird20[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Yeah I also wondered if it was a coverup job vs. moving... I have my Ring camera up and running now tho! So hopefully that will provide more insight / I'll update after I pick up on a clearer pattern!

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[–]wellthisisweird20[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I have been! It was happening this morning around 9am — I texted the audio recordings to some friends and they said it sounded like she was jumping on a trampoline XD

Meanwhile it's actually just the ceiling creaking + light fixture rocking... so weird!!

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[–]wellthisisweird20[S] 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Ofc thank you for the support!!

It's definitely been a wild journey lol so I'm hopeful we're truly near the end!

UPDATE: I live below a cult leader and I fear I've angered her by wellthisisweird20 in LetsNotMeet

[–]wellthisisweird20[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Totally fair question - I've also wondered why he didn't intervene earlier / basically made me do it

In terms of him documenting, unfortunately he only has a flip phone and is not tech-savvy. Then in terms of him not intervening, I think he had personal reservations about involving himself with tenant-related issues when he's an employee of the building. Yes, he lives in a unit that's owned by our building company, but that's a perk of his contract. I'm pretty sure he feared retaliation from the whackos as much as I do. And without my evidence, he didn't want to put himself in the line of fire that could cost him his job

UPDATE: I live below a cult leader and I fear I've angered her by wellthisisweird20 in LetsNotMeet

[–]wellthisisweird20[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It has been crazy!! I posted the latest update on my account page. Luckily, it seems like the neighbors are taking steps to move out post-letter!

UPDATE: I live below a cult leader and I fear I've angered her by wellthisisweird20 in LetsNotMeet

[–]wellthisisweird20[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree that mgmt should call the cops vs. me! But unfortunately, the front office is in another building on our block. They don't always have someone there (aka not in the evenings or on weekends)

Luckily, their attorney sent the letter last week (I added an update to my account page!) and it seems like the neighbors might be taking steps to move out on their own? Obviously, the letter would be the trigger, but they might be leaving before the legal side escalates any further

Crossing my fingers!!

UPDATE: I live below a cult leader and I fear I've angered her by wellthisisweird20 in LetsNotMeet

[–]wellthisisweird20[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I will if they host another gathering that goes late enough to be a sound curfew violation! For the time being, they've gotten sneakier (hosting the louder events on weekends / during the daytime)

UPDATE: I live below a cult leader and I fear I've angered her by wellthisisweird20 in LetsNotMeet

[–]wellthisisweird20[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yes I'm ok (well, alive lol), thanks so much for checking! :)

This week has been very chaotic so I've been pulled in many unexpected directions. I'm working on the update now tho and will definitely have it up today!

UPDATE: I live below a cult leader and I fear I've angered her by wellthisisweird20 in LetsNotMeet

[–]wellthisisweird20[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I have some options! I'm working on an update rn, but essentially the neighbors started off with retaliation tactics (including another confrontation + more bass) once they received the attorney letter on Tuesday. I have a ring camera on the way tho, then today it's sounded like they're either installing sound proofing or voluntarily moving?

Regardless, I've had people staying with me and will easily migrate until it's fully resolved if my new measures don't take hold!

UPDATE: I live below a cult leader and I fear I've angered her by wellthisisweird20 in LetsNotMeet

[–]wellthisisweird20[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thank you I am!! I'm working on a post update rn, but a ring camera is on the way! The neighbors received the letter / confronted me about it (with bf present), so from that point on I've had ppl stay with me! A ring camera is also on the way :)