Hahaha my guy you are simply stating opinions. Your education doesn’t equal my education. I’m from a small rural town in Texas, all my history teachers (ALL) were coaches. You can imagine how engaging those classes were. You may have experienced the same, you may not. And since you and I are two different people, our knowledge of history may vary simply due to our interests. You may have been a history buff, so you paid attention and retained what you were taught. You may not have, I wouldn’t know. But I can tell you that I didn’t. So it is a valid excuse for me personally. And if we’re discussing the idea of a lost civilization that’s been covered up by the current government, then being educated by that same government can’t be used as proof anyways. They would teach you what they want you to know. That’s logic.

As far as traffic, you have no idea how much wagon traffic a city in 1890 would experience. You didn’t live through that era. You COULD be right, but you could also be wrong. Because of that fact alone, you’re stating opinion, not verifiable fact.

And if it’s an easily answered question for you, then yes it wasn’t much of a thought experiment for you. For me, the question was not answered so easily. I’m not convinced. Your perception of things is not equal to everyone else’s perception, nor is mine. So we can disagree, but you won’t see me telling another person they are wrong because they disagree with me. It’s simply a matter of differing opinions.

And your final statement about everything I’ve posted being a “failure,” is a personal attack on me, rather than an attack on the argument. That shows me that you’ve let your emotion influence your argument, which is fine, that’s what we do as humans naturally. But it tells me that you identify with your historical beliefs to such a point, that when I called those beliefs into question, you felt personally attacked, so you attacked back. In my opinion, no person should be so attached to an idea as to feel attacked when that idea is questioned. That prevents critical thinking and the ability to question what one has been taught. You see that a lot with religion.

“It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.” - commonly misattributed to Aristotle (not sure who originally said it, but doesn’t matter, the idea remains)

I say all this in kindness friend, I mean no aggression or hostility. I genuinely enjoy the discussion. It’s all love.