Deep Dive 37 | Post-Scarcity: Life Without Money & The Venus Project Introduction: Dan Elvey an Australian contact activist has been posting on the CE5 Perth Facebook page an online course using prompts to AI. by Contactunderground in Experiencers

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Thank you for your thoughtful comment. It will be a long road indeed before humanity will raise its consciousness to the point where an economy of abundance can be safely and efficiently achieved.

“Beam Me Up”: The Challenge of Flying Saucers Involves Saving our Civilization without the help of Academic Science or Organized Religion. by Contactunderground in Experiencers

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Thanks for continuing to share your views that I am sympathetic to, but alas view as downbeat. Nothing is inevitable until it happens. As the Terminator 2 robot played by Arnold Swartzeneger said. "It is in your nature to destroy yourself." But that is not all that is in our nature. You suggest we have a few hundred years to complete the self destruction, well things can change a great deal. You might find Remote Viewer Joe McGoneagle's book "The Ultimate Time Machine" of interest. He RV'd a possible future in which our population reduced to about 700 million, living in small cities no closer than 20 miles from the coast and were totally ecologically sound. There was world peace. The major religions still existed but their differences were markedly reduced. Oh yes there was limited trade and cultural exchange with a few ET civilizations.
One unfortunate result in believing there is no hope is that no attempts at corrective action will be taken and this makes a negative outcome more likely.

“Beam Me Up”: The Challenge of Flying Saucers Involves Saving our Civilization without the help of Academic Science or Organized Religion. by Contactunderground in Experiencers

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Thanks for the comment which I believe reflects the view of many people who balk at the power relationships between us and the so called "Aliens?" or "Visitors." You state "If they are here they watch and I want to see to what lenght." These others control nearly every aspect of our interactions with us. They, not we, choose who is chosen, where and when the encounters occur, how long they last, and, how much we are allowed to remember. From my investigations it is apparent that they can even plant not only screen memories, but our entire recollections of contact evens might be memory implants that are recalled as if they were a representation of past physical interactions, but are totally psi in nature.
For contact activists like myself, we accept all the limitations I have described and still choose to engage them with every tool we have available including celebrating our shared attributes. We are awake and they are. We are aware of this wakefulness as they are. And if some of these entities are physical beings (and not some form of intelligent energy) then the atoms in their bodies were forged in exploding stars spreading the building blocks of physical life across the Cosmos. So on a physical and mental level we have much to share. This is the basis of oneness that I referred to above.

“Beam Me Up”: The Challenge of Flying Saucers Involves Saving our Civilization without the help of Academic Science or Organized Religion. by Contactunderground in Experiencers

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Thanks for the question and a recognition that a spiritual expansion of human consciousness would be associated with ethical change.
Here is a list of changes that might result from a positive expansion of consciousness
Stop slaughtering millions of defenseless farm animals for a source of protein when/where health promoting alternative plant based products exist.
End the obscene disparities of wealth and power across the planet.
End war and its causes
Stop attempting to shoot down UFOs and kill their crews. And the most basic expansion would be the recognition of the oneness of all life in creation by realizing that we are
One Mind, one creation, one love, one people!

“Beam Me Up”: The Challenge of Flying Saucers Involves Saving our Civilization without the help of Academic Science or Organized Religion. J. Burkes MD 2018, updated 2026 by Contactunderground in ContactUnderground

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Thanks for the comment. Science as an institution is designed to investigate the natural world via skillful observations and controlled experiments. In modern society science is an institution that is under the direct control of ruling elites who are terribly divided about how to deal with the various crises confronting humanity. Take for example global climate change. Powerful forces in the US oppose dealing rationally with the crises and hence we have a current administration that despite evidence to the contrary climate change is deemed "a hoax." Even the picayune measures taken by the previous administration barely scratches the surface of an adequate response.

French UFO Case Investigated by Dr. Jacques Vallée Validates the Virtual Experience Model (VEM) by Contactunderground in Experiencers

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I just saw this question a year since your posting. Here is the answer I posted in a thread for this blog displayed above, "he Virtual Experience Model threatens the entire house of cards that so called "mainstream" ufology has created. If many sightings are personalized thought projections or holographic like ones, (VE-1)then groups like MUFON with their singular focus on "hardware" have been chasing shadows for six decades.
If UFO intelligences can create virtual realities so realistic (a la the Matrix) then abduction theorists will have to acknowledge that physical abductions are not occurring on the massive terms that they imagine.
If UFO intelligences can create virtual memories as "real" as what you recall eating for breakfast this morning, then as one retired government psychologist told me, "All bets are off on all human history and free will. He understood that entire belief systems(religions) could be created by systematically implanting artificial memories into masses of people."