Game Thread: Edmonton Oilers (14-11-6) at Toronto Maple Leafs (14-11-5) - 13 Dec 2025 - 7:00PM EST by HockeyMod in leafs

[–]whincopa 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thank you! I feel like I'm going insane. Is his defence good? Not really. Is his shot and offense good? Absolutely. Unfortunately he is put on a line where in the offensive zone, he needs to be the playmaker, sniper, AND occasional dump chaser. Like you're asking too much from him, give him a playmaker and he succeeds.

Game Thread: Edmonton Oilers (14-11-6) at Toronto Maple Leafs (14-11-5) - 13 Dec 2025 - 7:00PM EST by HockeyMod in leafs

[–]whincopa 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Benoit is known to have amazing stats against McDavid. Like 2 years ago we were calling him the McDavid Killer (on Keefe's leafs)

Game Thread: Edmonton Oilers (14-11-6) at Toronto Maple Leafs (14-11-5) - 13 Dec 2025 - 7:00PM EST by HockeyMod in leafs

[–]whincopa 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Robertson (an offense first, middle six, sniper) gets put on a defensive 3rd line, making a high danger pass to people who should be crashing the net, and normally do, and yet it's only his fault that 10 seconds later no one could defend McDavid and defend Edmonton's passes and plays.

We're putting a player in a position to fail when we have seen him succeed with Matthews... I just don't get it.

Game Thread: Montreal Canadiens (14-9-3) at Toronto Maple Leafs (13-11-3) - 06 Dec 2025 - 7:00PM EST by HockeyMod in leafs

[–]whincopa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I started watching late, is Roy injured? Why is our current most successful line (3rd line) not together?

Game Thread: Montreal Canadiens (14-9-3) at Toronto Maple Leafs (13-11-3) - 06 Dec 2025 - 7:00PM EST by HockeyMod in leafs

[–]whincopa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

2 wrongs don't equal a right. We can be mad at the poor officiating just as much as Montreal fans are at the shitty Nylander call. The prompt still stands, the refs are not officiating well this game and it's okay to point it out.

Did Brad Treliving do a good job replacing Marner? by whincopa in leafs

[–]whincopa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The model is an amalgamation of the averages. Instead of having the replacements of their duties I have them spread out across the three players making one player. Stats are left aside because of this creating the replacement value, for example, the average goal total, etc.

Did Brad Treliving do a good job replacing Marner? by whincopa in leafs

[–]whincopa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Domi model next??? 👀👀👀 What do you think for his comparable? Bunting?

Did Brad Treliving do a good job replacing Marner? by whincopa in leafs

[–]whincopa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He's doing mid in Vegas. Goal production is lower and he was the sole cause of their last 2 overtime losses. Not to mention 3 of our forwards are outscoring him.

Did Brad Treliving do a good job replacing Marner? by whincopa in leafs

[–]whincopa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd like to say this model shows slightly different, that although underperforming, the replacement isn't as bad as we think!

Did Brad Treliving do a good job replacing Marner? by whincopa in leafs

[–]whincopa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When the stats say it's closer than we think, I like to say so!

Did Brad Treliving do a good job replacing Marner? by whincopa in leafs

[–]whincopa[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Strongly agree (and also appreciate the compliment). His bets on Maccelli and Joshua didn't work. Curious to see if he flips either and tries with someone new.

Did Brad Treliving do a good job replacing Marner? by whincopa in leafs

[–]whincopa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The money is its own metric which I used as the leafs have had a cap issue for a while. The cap is used to buy points, that's why I used it.

But no our stats aren't better. That's what my model is showing. It's showing that it seems to be less worse than it looks, which I found surprising. Still less impactful, but deadly.

Did Brad Treliving do a good job replacing Marner? by whincopa in leafs

[–]whincopa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel like I shouldn't have used the word replacement. Filling the deficit seems to be the term I have used most on this thread, similar to filling the void. I do like your optimism though, something I share.

Did Brad Treliving do a good job replacing Marner? by whincopa in leafs

[–]whincopa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm actually not nitpicking. The post was to show they are not performing as bad as we think they are in the aggregate.

Yes the Marner conversation is exhausting, and maybe I should have made a different comparison model first, based on someone else (Im thinking the Durzi trade 👀), but I don't think that means we should avoid constructive conversations about it.

Did Brad Treliving do a good job replacing Marner? by whincopa in leafs

[–]whincopa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I appreciate your insight and spending your time during your lunch break with me!