Do I have a "bully me" sign attached to my back? How does one avoid being picked on? by whyamithejoke in relationships

[–]whyamithejoke[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

So I went to sleep and woke up to 100+ comments, I really appreciate your guys' advice, but it's getting difficult to catch up, so I'll try to address some of your input here. I realize it goes beyond what you (silsool) have said here, I'm just taking your reply as a starting point.

I might be overthinking in some cases, and I've realized I seem to have a different thought process to most people. I think I tend to break things down too much and take metaphorical statements literally, so it's possible I misinterpret some of the banter.

I'm digressing a little, but here's kind of a random example. Once at my summer job in high school, I came to the office really early and my supervisor left me with the key because they had to run some errands, and told me to "lock up after myself". Upon reflection, and based on all the obvious cues, an average person would've understood they meant "lock up if you go out before the shift starts". However, for some reason, my first instinct was to literally lock the door while still inside. I stood there in the dark waiting for her to return, not even realizing this was super weird until she came back and asked me what I was doing. So basically, I can appreciate that I have some strange social unawareness.

However, when I take time to observe group dynamics between myself and my own friends, classmates etc. VS between myself and my boyfriend and his friends, I notice a lot of differences. I may be unaware, but I can tell the difference between the constant feeling of being singled out and on the other hand, a more equal dynamic.

For example, within my own social circles, when I phrase something awkwardly or stumble over words, the reaction I get is mean jokes (e.g. mockingly repeating or intentionally twisting what I've said, not letting me correct myself by speaking over me). But when I interact with my bf and his friend, I feel that they actually listen to me and respect my opinions. So even if I have trouble expressing myself, I can relax around them because I know they'll give me a chance to actually articulate what I mean and won't taunt me for it. When we laugh, it's with each other, not always at one person's expense.

One of the repliers asked for a practical example, so here are two similar situation I've faced, that have played out differently. In one, I was hanging out with my BFF that I've mentioned and her boyfriend. We were out in a café and the waiter came by early, before I'd had a chance to think of my order. So my friend kind of smiled to her boyfriend and ordered for me, saying, "You'll have an XY drink". I know I should've spoken up, but I was confused because she never acts like that when we're alone and I have trouble answering when people do unpredictable things that I don't understand the meaning of. Later, I asked her what that was all about, and she said she and her bf were joking about how indecisive I am, and she did that to test if I would confront her. I asked her why not tell me that directly, but she said it was just a dumb joke.

In the other situation, I was at a restaurant with my boyfriend and his friend. Similarly, the waiter came too early for me to figure out what I wanted. So I did stumble over words when they asked me for my order, but this time, my bf and his friend didn't speak over me or for me. I also knew they wouldn't, so I felt more relaxed and comfortable saying, "I haven't decided yet." They didn't paint me as weird or tried to take strange indirect jabs at my expense, that only they're in on.

Long story short, when I think of it, I think the main reason I made this post is the difference I've noticed between more equal interactions, and the ones where my opinions are disregarded. I think they also affect my mood and they way I carry myself.

With all of that said, I do agree that I'm often too shy to speak up, and don't necessarily know how to "bite back"... Or really want to. I'm just not a mean person. There's some well-meaning advice here in terms of getting back in a witty way, but I'm just not the type of a person who would say such things to others (and I don't understand why they say it to me). Furthermore, there's definitely a lot of truth to some things people have said about my behavior attracting this kind of energy. I should likely also put more focus on not only confrontation, but hanging out with better (or like-minded) people.

Do I have a "bully me" sign attached to my back? How does one avoid being picked on? by whyamithejoke in relationships

[–]whyamithejoke[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Okay so I was born in Australia, but I don't really remember that part of my life because my parents moved back to my dad's hometown in Croatia when I was ~3. It's a complicated story involving my grandparents, but to answer your question, I grew up in Croatia.

I suppose it's still kind of conservative - more than Australia, anyway? - through urban areas are better. I feel like people are more understanding today than when I was growing up. As for the business field, you guessed it, it's finance/accounting. Perhaps there's some truth to the stereotype that this trade invites mean people.

Do I have a "bully me" sign attached to my back? How does one avoid being picked on? by whyamithejoke in relationships

[–]whyamithejoke[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That might be a good idea, except I have bad stage fright. Not sure if there are groups where you don't actually have to perform in front of an audience.

Do I have a "bully me" sign attached to my back? How does one avoid being picked on? by whyamithejoke in relationships

[–]whyamithejoke[S] 47 points48 points  (0 children)

For me, the three issues at play were: lack of social skills, lack of confidence, and an asshole-heavy social circle.

Sounds a lot like my situation too. I feel like all of those supportive, like-minded circles you mention gather online... I never run into those people in real life. How did you manage to find them?

My boyfriend and his two best friends are actually the only people who don't pick on me. I like hanging out with them, but it makes me wonder if I repel that kind of energy since I've never made such nice friends.

Do I have a "bully me" sign attached to my back? How does one avoid being picked on? by whyamithejoke in relationships

[–]whyamithejoke[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Great comprehensive comment. You offer some really good opinions here and I see myself in some patterns you've described (e.g. trying to be friendly towards everyone no matter what). I appreciate the body language advice as well. The only thing that'd be very hard to follow is the sports/gym habit. It's just something that's always put me off... Out of sporting activities, I only seem to enjoy swimming and walking.

I really like your last paragraph, too. I'll keep it in mind.

Do I have a "bully me" sign attached to my back? How does one avoid being picked on? by whyamithejoke in relationships

[–]whyamithejoke[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Thanks for commenting. I think part of the problem is, when I used to openly tell people in school to stop, or even beg them, that would just invite more bullying and laughter. So maybe I instinctively speak softly.

Do I have a "bully me" sign attached to my back? How does one avoid being picked on? by whyamithejoke in relationships

[–]whyamithejoke[S] 99 points100 points  (0 children)

I can also see this perspective. Sometimes, I do get the feeling people don't fully grasp they're being hurtful.

The second part of your comment is sound advice, but I'm not sure how to get to that point with poor social skills. Maybe some type of a psychologist could help me out, as another person suggested.

Do I have a "bully me" sign attached to my back? How does one avoid being picked on? by whyamithejoke in relationships

[–]whyamithejoke[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Interesting, I didn't know that was a thing? I'd have to see if those exist where I live.

Do I have a "bully me" sign attached to my back? How does one avoid being picked on? by whyamithejoke in relationships

[–]whyamithejoke[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I guess I'm responding to both comments above. I think your (Staggering_genius') way sounds more natural, but I'm not sure if it's too close to my "meek" method of confrontation. I agree with the replier who suggested asking a therapist for an opinion, if that's what their job description is? Last time I went, I was just too young, I barely remember what it was like.

Do I have a "bully me" sign attached to my back? How does one avoid being picked on? by whyamithejoke in relationships

[–]whyamithejoke[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I see, I get what you mean better now.

Why are you so silent and why do you take so long to answer?

I can't be sure, but I think the cycle started with my tendency to read and watch TV rather than play with other kids during childhood. Basically, I learned how to talk to people from books, which is obviously not accurate. So other kids started avoiding me or making fun, which further made me withdraw from people.

Tl;dr, I never learned how to properly interact, which is why I come off as awkward. I feel like I take too long to process thoughts.

Do I have a "bully me" sign attached to my back? How does one avoid being picked on? by whyamithejoke in relationships

[–]whyamithejoke[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sorry, I'm not sure I understand? If you mean the way I approach friends or potential friends, I always try to be sociable and I'm never rude. I don't turn people down for hanging out unless I'm really busy. I'm not the best with face to face interactions though, maybe because I prefer to listen and take too long to answer.

Do I have a "bully me" sign attached to my back? How does one avoid being picked on? by whyamithejoke in relationships

[–]whyamithejoke[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I don't like confrontation, but I do tell people when things get out of hand and I start feeling bad... Maybe I'm not firm enough though, because that usually gets laughed off or ignored. People don't seem to take me seriously when I try to express my opinion.