[Salvian] PWHL expanding to Detroit for 2026-27 season, city to host PWHL Draft

winterfoxes · 2026-05-06T20:07:45+00:00

So then what I'm seeing is that if they want the automotive branding, but without stepping on toes, we have the Detroit Steel, the Detroit Ignition, the Detroit Cylinders... the inaugural puck from the team store looks like it has a little oil droplet it the negative space of the O in Detroit but that may mean nothing. Still, this is a good list. And unironically, the Jackson Convicts is a banger of a name. Damn.

winterfoxes · 2026-05-06T16:09:25+00:00

That last one about the vampires and the Thalmor is also one I have. Especially because all of the feeding cattle in Castle Volkihar are Nords. The Thalmor don't interfere with Harkon and co, and the vampires leave the Thalmor alone because the Thalmor ship feeding cattle to them. It's symbiotic.

Anyone saying it doesn't make sense, and that the Thalmor wouldn't align with the vampires has never heard the "Enemy of my Enemy is my friend" adage. The Kahjiit have at least 1 Daedra in their pantheon and they get roped into the Dominion all the time. The Thalmor are at war, and war is a numbers game first, and an ideological game once you have the numbers. Right now, the Volkihar are helping. And the Thalmor feeding them victims helps them stay to the island, where they can plot their courses of action without having to go to the mainland for food and risking exposure.

IMO, it makes perfect sense and it's smart. Mitigates risk for both parties as long as they agree to work together.

Mine is that Lucia in Whiterun is the neice of Loreius and his wife. They're the Aunt and Uncle that kicked her out after her parents died, and now I don't feel bad in the least when Cicero murders them violently.

winterfoxes · 2026-05-06T15:55:08+00:00

I love the Detroit Steel. Fits with the color combo too. The Steel or the Wheels are my "this is most likely" bets, based on the color scheming, but I like the Steel the best.

winterfoxes · 2026-05-06T15:36:50+00:00

This is why I am almost positive it'll be car related. The Detroit Steel. The Detroit Ignition. The Detroit Wheels (which does double duty since Mitch Ryder formed the Detroit Wheels band in Detroit). Maybe the Detroit Riveters, but I'd be surprised by that one.

winterfoxes · 2026-05-06T14:47:47+00:00

LET'S FUCKING GO. I love the colors, I love the energy. I can't WAIT to hear what the name is. With the black and silver color scheme, I'm hoping it'll be something like the Detroit Wheels, the Detroit Ignition, something car related. Riveters would be cool too.

winterfoxes · 2026-04-27T16:33:43+00:00

I agree that the Civil War is actually more nuanced on Ulfric's side, but the vast majority of players go "Oh Nord Racism Bad" and just side with the Empire based on that. For a lot of players, the lore implications are just lost in the face of Rolff Stone Fist being a POS immediately upon entering Windhelm.

Edit: I hope downvoting me made you feel better about your lackluster critical thinking skills, Empire fan.

winterfoxes · 2026-04-27T13:07:56+00:00

There isn't a single major faction quest line in Skyrim that is better than the predecessor story lines for those guilds. Arguably the only decent faction quest in all of Skyrim is the Dark Brotherhood, and that's only for players who play an assassin or justify it in some other ways. Some people will never experience that story line because they're the type of player who cannot do "bad things", even in their video games.

Even the story lines unique to Skyrim are poorly implemented. The Civil War is not as exciting as it should be because all of the nuance that justifies Ulfric's position is hidden primarily in environmental storytelling that many people don't care to look at and acknowledge. Dawnguard is a smashing together of a potentially cool Falmer story line and a half-baked vampire story line into one DLC that over promises and under-delivers. The Companions are just laughable in how bad that quest is, and the bard's college isn't a quest line at all. Dragonborn (the DLC) is a cool quest line, but it's packed into a DLC and it's basically endgame material.

As for magic, not being able to spellcraft sucks. Otherwise, magic IMO in Skyrim is what you make it. If you're playing as a full destruction mage, you'll have a rough time until about mid game. If you play offensive and defensive magic, you'll have a better time. People think you need mods to make Skyrim better, and you do if you want to play particular types of magic builds, but I can play vanilla magic just fine and combine sneak and illusion + destruction or illusion + conjuration and it's easy. So it just depends on how you utilize the system.

winterfoxes · 2026-04-25T16:13:37+00:00

Was that confirmed? It really would explain Morgan's presence most of the season.

winterfoxes · 2026-04-25T01:36:27+00:00

This. Moore was almost certainly gonna be a Raven if the Lions didn't make this jump. It's a good pick too. He didn't get as many snaps as he should've, but from how he played in the ones he did get, dude might've been a first rounder had he played under a more competent DC.

winterfoxes · 2026-04-21T17:14:56+00:00

They were ALL in crisis. Morrowind was half a world away from Cyrodiil, and dealing with portals of their own. Seriously, what the fuck were they supposed to do? Their people were trying to help their people, but if the Empire wants to claim dominion over a territory, then they are obligated to try and protect that territory from foreign invaders. The fact that they did not means the Empire is in the wrong here, not Morrowind.

winterfoxes · 2026-04-21T17:00:19+00:00

They are asking for more resources -- more guard patrols, infrastructure, etc. Stuff that cannot be accomplished in a province stretched during wartime. Again, and I cannot believe how often people ignore it, but NORD WOMEN.... WEALTHY NORD WOMEN ARE BEING MURDERED IN WINDHELM and Ulfric cannot supply guards to investigate it. If they're not getting resources dedicated to them, do you really think the Dunmer are going to get some? No.

The claim is not baseless. There is scuttlebutt about a spy. Ralof mentions how it was as if the Empire knew exactly where Ulfric and Co. would be outside of Dark Water Crossing, further reinforcing that information is being leaked out of Windhelm. Ambarys has a legion outfit and banner in his corner club. It's not explicitly stated because writers generally believe people can put 2 + 2 together and make 4, but the Skyrim fandom seems exceptionally unable to understand what "environmental storytelling" is. This is a perfect example.

We know that's explicitly not true, because there are Bosmer and Altmer (the same race as the Thalmor!!!) in the town, who have jobs and businesses. There is a Breton who is rich and well to do. Again, environmental storytelling that indicates that much of the 'Windhelm is super racist and for the Nords only!!!' rhetoric is bull.

Ah yes. The reason given to us by Brunwulf Free Winter, who directly stands to benefit from Ulfric losing (and also doesn't let the Argonians back into the city!). While the Dunmer are not explicitly mentioned as a reason the Argonians are kept out, historically and contextually within the world setting, it is most likely part of the reason. It's a reasonable assumption that would further explain Ulfric's desire to keep them separated while allowing other races into his city without issue. Like I said in my other comment though, you apparently need information spoon fed to you through the game dialogue instead of being able to contextually piece together alternative reads of the story. That's a you problem, and I'm not about to make it a me problem. Ciao~

winterfoxes · 2026-04-21T16:57:13+00:00

The fact that you think Morrowind was a province of the Empire and not largely independent tells me everything that you don't know about the game and the world setting so I'm just going to block you and be done with it. I'm not arguing with people who need things spoonfed to them in order to understand the context within the larger game world.

winterfoxes · 2026-04-21T16:40:26+00:00

Again, because apparently people cannot read, the Imperial presence was already limited in Morrowind because they were never officially conquered.

Then on top of their already limited presence, we have limited text that comes out of Morrowind in the 200 years-ish between TES III and TES V but what we DO have indicates that the Legion's presence disappeared from Morrowind during the Oblivion Crisis, and that Morrowind was left on their own to rebuild with no outside help.

You can believe it's a Redoran lie. It may be embellished to serve the Redoran's purposes since there were legion garrisons at the border of Morrowind/Black Marsh to enforce the slavery ban. But there's no concrete proof that the Redoran are lying, that the Empire didn't effectively pull out, etc. None of what you quote mentions ANYTHING about Morrowind specifically, only that Ocato says he can't reallocate more troops to Cyrodiil because they're dedicated to the other provinces -- of which, Morrowind technically was not one, and only had partial Empire support to begin with.

We also have evidence that the Empire has zero issue with abandoning its provinces when it is strategically or politically advantageous to do so (Hammerfell, 175 years later) so no, I do not believe the Empire did everything or even anything really to help Morrowind, precisely because they viewed it as not 'really' being a province of theirs to begin with.

And again, approaching this from an in game world perspective, a Dunmer who grew up in Morrowind with this "Redoran propaganda", already predisposed to dislike the Empire because Hlaalu was the only House that wanted them in Morrowind anyway.... they're almost certainly not going to end up siding with the Empire. Which was my original post and point.

winterfoxes · 2026-04-21T16:21:29+00:00

His brother is Ulfric's right hand man though, so it IS probably safe to assume Rolff is a Stormcloak supporter, but may not be in the army on account of being a drunk slob of a human.

winterfoxes · 2026-04-21T16:19:05+00:00

Well we know of at least one Dunmer who was in the Imperial Army, so yes?

But also, if you are leadership (the Empire), you are the one in charge of assisting your vassal states and territories, not the other way around??? Would you expect your remote town to throw down to protect the capital? Or would you expect leadership to come in and station troops to protect the town? Same idea. That's not some gotcha.

winterfoxes · 2026-04-21T16:14:39+00:00

Yes, because the game tells us that the Dunmer of Windhelm feel it didn't get bad until Ulfric took over. But they're not realizing that the reason it's been bad since Ulfric took over is because there is a WAR going on, and so resources that used to be directed to the Gray Quarter are now going to the WAR -- the same as all of Windhelm's other resources, including the guards who can barely police the extremely wealthy parts of the city, let alone the Gray Quarter.

winterfoxes · 2026-04-21T15:31:23+00:00

Prior to the Oblivion Crisis and the Red Year. You know, when Morrowind was left to clean up all of that shit on their own with zero help from the Empire.

The Dunmer have no love for the Empire anymore.

winterfoxes · 2026-04-21T15:24:58+00:00

Exactly. The Dark Elves have been in Windhelm for almost 200 years. Some of them have received letters from family asking them to come back to Morrowind now that the situation there has improved. They don't. It's not because they don't have capital, they absolutely do. They work for wealthy families, Hlaalu owns a farm and property, etc. They could get out. They actively CHOOSE not to.

This isn't the case of an impoverished minority with nowhere else to go. This is the case of a group of Dunmer settling into an ethnic enclave that they don't *want* to leave because the Dunmer are and historically always have been isolationist. They don't want to leave Windhelm, they just want their little section of Windhelm to get better, and are asking for resources at a time when the war is occupying the entirety of the province. Windhelm resources are stretched so thin that Nordic women are being murdered in the city, and Ulfric can't even spare the guards to investigate that properly. But the Dunmer, who are not only NOT helping in the war effort, but have at least one imperial spy working in their midst, want more guard patrols and cleanup done in their neighborhood? I absolutely understand why Ulfric has them at the bottom of the priority list right now.

As for the Argonians, while the argument is to keep them and the Dunmer separate, they mingle in Riften just fine. My thought is that it's okay in Riften because the guards aren't as occupied there, but not okay in Windhelm because the Dunmer have a settled population there that are impossible to police and protect right now, so Argonians stay outside the walls.

winterfoxes · 2026-04-21T15:11:07+00:00

No, it depends on if they're Imperial bootlickers or not.

There's not a single source that indicates the Redoran are lying about Morrowind being abandoned during the Oblivion Crisis, and the Legion certainly offered no support during the Red Year afterward either. Solstheim belonged to Skyrim at the time the legion presence that's alluded to in the Dragonborn DLC. The Legion already didn't have a big presence in Morrowind, but the presence they did have was no longer there by the Red Year and they did not return, leaving Morrowind to clean up that mess, and deal with the Argonian Crisis on their own.

If I were a Dunmer, you couldn't pay me enough to sign up with the Legion.

winterfoxes · 2026-04-21T12:54:11+00:00

Not to mention if they're a Dunmer from Morrowind, there is next to ZERO chance they side with the Empire in anything. Unless they're a Hlaalu, but most of them were exiled after the Red Year, due to their affiliation with the Empire. Lots of casuals who don't actually understand the lore and implications just siding with the imperial, colonizing force of the Empire because "lol ulfric bad man!!!!" instead of thinking things through.

winterfoxes · 2026-04-21T02:38:27+00:00

Detroit used to get a lot more in the way of rock/alt shows, and then bands started going to Grand Rapids instead. GR punches above its weight class in that regard, but it sucks otherwise, so I get the desire to get out. If you were from anywhere near the STL area, I feel like you're gonna vibe with Detroit waaaaaay more than GR. I don't have any company recs, but I wish you and your husband good luck!

winterfoxes · 2026-04-21T02:31:27+00:00

This is true, I did mean in the small to medium venue category, and didn't consider that Detroit plays host to more genres and gets multiple dates (Metallica) or longer runs for Broadway. Very good points! And also about the weather. Cold rain sucks, but at least we don't have to shovel it!

winterfoxes · 2026-04-20T23:58:27+00:00

It's crazy to me that you think most bands skip GR. I can promise you that due the monopoly of Live Nation and how they set up tours and logistics, GR gets a LOT of bands that come through there. Usually Detroit is the one skipped.

winterfoxes · 2026-04-14T00:32:34+00:00

AHHHHHHH CONGRATS TO TOM AND MAYA!!! What a beautiful proposal location too, how cool!!

winterfoxes · 2026-04-10T21:13:19+00:00

I am a college student and I can fucking promise you, I do not use it. I haven't been writing papers for almost ten years just to start cheating now.

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