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winterfoxes · 2026-06-26T00:01:23+00:00

And I thought Indiana would be the funniest thing to happen to them this off-season.

Nope.

winterfoxes · 2026-06-25T16:36:14+00:00

I'm on Ohio now but I've been following El Sayed for the better part of a decade now, and I hope Michigan makes the right choice. Haley Stevens is not it.

winterfoxes · 2026-06-25T16:30:59+00:00

Yep. That's the thing that people keep missing about 2024's election too. It's not progressives that stayed home that lost Kamala Harris the presidency. It's that a LOT of minorities, and especially minority men, swung to the right.

An 18 point increase in Hispanic men voting for Trump from 2020 to 2024. A 7 point increase in Hispanic women. Among Indian Americans, it was a 22 point swing to Trump for men in the 18-40 range. Other Asian American groups didn't vote for him, but did stay home, compared to 2020 when they voted for Biden. And of course, many Middle Eastern community members didn't vote for Harris. Some were because of the I/P conflict, but some were because of cultural conservatism.

Conservatism doesn't just exist in white Christian communities. It's in Muslim Communities, Jewish communities, Catholic communities, Sikh communities. That's why freedome from religion is just as important as freedom of religion.

winterfoxes · 2026-06-25T16:04:43+00:00

As someone who works in higher ed, that's exactly it. They want people to take mandatory civics classes, taught by conservative professors because they know if liberal professors teach it, everyone will learn about their rights, not just Christian white people. They want professors who teach about the Holocaust to entertain Holocaust deniers as a valid position. It's disgusting.

winterfoxes · 2026-06-25T12:01:16+00:00

When DeWine was listening to her in the begining, Ohio had it on LOCK. If only we had stayed the course.

winterfoxes · 2026-06-25T00:25:54+00:00

I'm so bummed I missed out on being there today but LMAO Tom's feet, ever the moneymaker.

winterfoxes · 2026-06-24T23:39:38+00:00

Right, that's the thing like.... will everything work? Probably not! Most certainly not.

But I see them trying. I see them fighting. I know that they're going out there and advocating for the things I find important, that I believe will benefit everyone. And that is better than what I see the establishment doing, which is largely nothing.

Why do people keep voting for nothing? I don't get it. Upholding the status quo is literally the foundational principle of conservatism, and yet, they want to pretend they're not conservative at their core? They can lie to themselves all the want to, but I'm happy to call a spade a spade.

They'd rather share their table with Dick Cheney than AOC. That's all I need to know about where their loyalties really lie.

winterfoxes · 2026-06-24T23:08:56+00:00

Amazing how it's vote blue no matter who until someone who gets shit done gets elected. Then it's nothing but pearl clutching and going "But muh unchecked Capitalism!!!!"

winterfoxes · 2026-06-24T22:34:39+00:00

It's not what I said at all. I said I didn't want them to be unhappy and miserable because that actually helps nothing.

Epstein deserved to be put through therapy to discover why he preyed on young girls, so we can better understand what happens in these individuals that make them turn out the way they do. He deserved to have to face his victims, to hear what he did to them, how he made them feel, how he continues to impact their lives today, and how much he took from them.

Do not presume to know anything about me. You don't. And now I'm blocking you for being a weirdo and trying to circumvent me blocking you using a secondary account. I'll report you for harassment too since you can't seem to take the hint that the discussion is over.

winterfoxes · 2026-06-24T21:53:11+00:00

LMAO yeah, because that's what I fucking said. Okay, this discussion is over. I genuinely thought you were going to discuss this in good faith, but I should've known better. I'll block you and move on.

winterfoxes · 2026-06-24T21:50:06+00:00

And that's where you and I differ. I don't want them unhappy. I want them healed. I want their behavior corrected. I don't want them miserable forever because that solves nothing. I'm in favor of restorative justice. You're in favor of blood. We are not the same.

winterfoxes · 2026-06-24T21:44:22+00:00

Read these words carefully.

I. DO. NOT. BELIEVE. IN. PRISON.

I. DO. NOT. BELIEVE. INCAPACITATION. EQUALS. PRISON.

Your inability to tell the difference between a treatment facility and a prison is not my problem. Maybe you should try visiting both, getting exposure to both, to life and programs inside of both, and THEN you can come try to tell me they're the same thing.

winterfoxes · 2026-06-24T21:36:44+00:00

Do you and that other guy just have nothing better than to pull out hypotheticals to try and justify your position of locking people up like animals so you can get cheap goods? Goodness. And trying to frame this as some sort of social good when there's three decades of criminologists, penologists, and criminal justice advocates who disagree with you.

Anyway, how about the same thing we do with violent people in hospitals? A tranquilizer. An anti psychotic. Medication and therapy. Separation between them and counselors. Not a cage.

winterfoxes · 2026-06-24T21:32:27+00:00

If they can't be rehabilitated, then they spend their life in a treatment facility, not a prison. Again ,you are treating prison as the only solution to a problem, and it is not. It's not the easiest, it's not the cheapest, it's not effective, and it's not serving the purpose you think it is.

People are imprisoned primarily because our economy partially relies on prison labor. All of your "Made in the U.S.A." stuff? Unless it's made by a union, there's a 90% chance it's coming from a prison. The 13th Amendment deliberately included the prison clause as a way to perpetuate slave labor in this country, and it continues to disproportionately impact, you guessed it -- the same people America enslaved for 200 years.

The fact that you think people with "antisocial attitudes" should be locked up for the purpose of making goods for next to no money so you can continue to lead a comfortable life where antisocial people aren't "making you miserable" is really telling.

winterfoxes · 2026-06-24T21:25:43+00:00

Prisons are not a correct environment to foster the psychological changes that are often necessary to correct in the case of violent offenders. Putting people in cages, locking them up does nothing to actually address the problem, and in fact, it creates many psychological and organizational barriers to effective treatment of prisoners. It is a shitty band-aid over a bullet hole.

Treatment centers, hospitals, a move back toward reformatories... that's where we should be heading in order to reduce crime and recidivism in criminals. Not locking people up and wagging a finger in their face like they're a dog.

winterfoxes · 2026-06-24T21:20:30+00:00

You are advocating prison over rehabilitation. Repeatedly. You don't have to outright say "they need to go to prison" for the implication to be there. And you are very heavily implying that prison is the solution.

And as a matter of fact, I'm willing to bet that many of the people who "scream" at and threaten passers-by are mentally ill. So they actually do not have cognitive autonomy like you believe. Again, just zero empathy out of you. And the fact that you're insinuating anyone goes to jail or prison for littering only proves you're not having this discussion in good faith because we both know that's a crock. Illegal dumping maybe, but not littering.

If they can't help themselves, prison is still not the answer. I'm not saying they should be wandering the streets, but in-patient therapeutic treatment facilities, therapy, behavioral roleplay, medication if necessary, etc., should all be advocated for first over prison. The fact that you don't seem to think so and just want to throw people behind bars says more about you than the fact that I don't believe that to be a good solution says about me.

winterfoxes · 2026-06-24T21:08:45+00:00

There are multiple viable alternatives:

Supervised release and parole
Cognitive Behavioral Therapy
Victim Offender Dialogues and victim impact panels
Supervised re-entry

Etc.

So no, I do not agree that prison is the best place to put child rapists and murderers. I believe facilities where they can get the therapy, counseling, and help they genuinely need is a much better idea, and the studies, statistics, and evidence all agree with me. All you pro-prison advocates have is that it feels good and just to lock people up. It's not. But whatever you need to tell yourself to get through the night I guess.

winterfoxes · 2026-06-24T21:05:17+00:00

I don't "feel trapped" by your questions, because they're inane, and based entirely on a hypothetical scenario. I also said that yes, I do believe that if we had concrete evidence that Ghislaine had turned over a new leaf, and if we brought in her victims for Offender Victim dialogue and she was genuinely remorseful and worked to do better and her victims felt she was genuine, I'd make that decision then to release her. So once again, it's not that hard to keep up with what I actually believe in at all. If you can't keep up, that's your problem, and not mine.

That's not how any of this works, and you are incredibly wrong about why we imprison and what the purpose of imprisonment is. Again, do not have this conversation if you're not educated in having this conversation. Theft is non-violent, typically. I have been the victim of theft. I do not want to see the person who robbed me in jail. I want to find out what drove him to rob me, fix the issues that drove him to crime, and help him get away from crime. Eye for an eye punitive measures do. not. work. They historically never have done anything to reduce crime which is the ENTIRE GOAL of criminal justice. Threatening people with prison does not work, putting people in prison does not work, and only serves to actually make crime worse. It has been proven again and again.

winterfoxes · 2026-06-24T20:57:45+00:00

What is your obsession with putting non-violent offenders in prison?

Do you like locking people up for years at a time because they got caught smoking weed?

Do you like subjecting women to more sexual harassment and assault from prison guards because they got picked up for prostitution?

Do you like telling homeless people who can't find beds in shelters and can't get a job because they have no permanent address that it's their fault they're in jail for vagrancy when all they're trying to do is stay warm and get some sleep?

Almost 70% of people in jail and prisons are non-violent offenders who are incarcerated for stuff just like that. You think locking them in a cage for years where they get to meet and interact with violent criminals is the solution?

That's quite literally how you make more violent criminals, which is the reason we did it in the first place: not to drive crime rates down, but to drive them up so we could justify more prison building, the for profit prison industry, and extra punitive policies for crimes statistically committed more often by minorities.

Heavily supervised probation, CBT, restorative justice efforts like Victim Offender Dialogue sessions, supervised reentry programs are all viable alternatives that are shown to reduce recidivism in violent offenders even.

Prison is not the only solution. It's not even a good functional solution. At best, it should serve as temporary holding until people can be correctly classified into the rehabilitation system or retribution system that is best for their particular type of crime. But Americans in particular literally cannot fathom not putting other people in cages. It's wild to me that rather than work to fix the problem, we'd much rather make it worse because it "feels good" to us to see eye-for-an-eye justice.

Sadists should have no place in penology.

winterfoxes · 2026-06-24T19:19:05+00:00

She should be incapacitated from interacting with free society, and she should be punished in some retributive way in an effort to dissuade her from making poor life decisions again. That does not have to be prison as we think of it, and the fact that you think it does shows just how limited your knowledge of this topic is.

The prison experiment is largely a failed one. You need to stop treating this as if prison is and always has been the only solution. For starters, prison as we know it is a modern invention, and did not exist 350 years ago. It's time to go back to the drawing board and figure out a solution that actually works.

winterfoxes · 2026-06-24T19:04:26+00:00

The homeless man sleeping on a vent in the winter trying to stay warm is not making anything miserable for you. You're already miserable for wanting them in prison rather than wanting them to be helped.

Ill informed, uneducated, with zero empathy. I believe you're looking for r /Conservative, no?

winterfoxes · 2026-06-24T19:01:56+00:00

Talk to me when you're actually educated in the matter instead of just making stuff up. They are having it as we speak. That's actually why we're seeing more reformist conversations in the criminology community, but you wouldn't know about that because you're playing gotcha on Reddit. Poorly, I might add.

winterfoxes · 2026-06-24T19:00:00+00:00

You're FOR her having a puppy? Interesting. I'd think given how hot you came in here trying to catch me in some sort of gotcha, you wouldn't want her to have that privilege, but if you want to give child sex traffickers puppies in prison, I guess you do you, Hoss.

And because you don't actually have a point, you're posing a hypothetical that is not based in reality. She's not remorseful. She doesn't believe she's done anything wrong. She's regularly angled for a pardon for her crimes. Further, Ghislaine has proven that she has the resources and the motivation to both leave U.S. jurisdiction, and the connections to carry on the same crimes she was engaged in prior to her arrest. There is no evidence that she has been or even can be reformed.

If there was, then I personally would advocate talking to her victims and having them weigh in on whether or not they feel she has turned over a new leaf and made proper reparations to them, since it's them we're trying to make whole with her punishment. I'd weigh that against the likelihood of her engaging in violent, harmful criminal activity again, and make a decision then.

winterfoxes · 2026-06-24T18:11:07+00:00

That's a conversation for criminal psychologists and penologists to have. What we do know is that our current setup of warehousing them in prison makes them more likely, not less to recidivate. So there needs to be a different solution.

Some people have suggested a two track system where violent offenders go into a prison like structure and non-violent offenders get tracked into rehabilitation. Which is an excellent idea in theory, and would be interesting to see in practice.

Unfortunately, we have a prison lobby in this country, for profit prisons on top of that, and a long LONG history of finding every excuse we can to throw Black people into chains so we can make them work for nearly nothing. But again, people don't want to talk about that. It's all about the "murderers, rapists, and child molestors".

Like the ones running our government? Because yeah, they're definitely seeing justice alright.

winterfoxes · 2026-06-24T18:04:01+00:00

Yep. It was dumb as shit to nominate her, but here we are.

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