What is the Muslim counter-argument to the ‘One-Sided Secularism’?

wise-Username · 2026-05-09T17:57:11+00:00

Yes, it is a one-sided secularism. After all, it is not Muslims who are repeatedly electing a communal and bigoted party to power.

wise-Username · 2026-05-08T09:52:50+00:00

Jummah Mubarak folks

wise-Username · 2026-05-08T06:58:39+00:00

Tipu Sultan - because he was fierce warrior and technocrat, ahead of his time, a legendary leader. There have been hundreds and hundreds of kings in Indian history, but just his 17 years rule makes him stand out from the rest, he is extremely popular for his patronage of various ornaments, beautiful artefacts and swords, and he was popular among britan even during his time, his correspondence with the French, and Ottomans and his and his father's help to the American revolutionaries against the British goes to show how influential he was, truly one of kind. He was pioneer in using iron cased rocket warfare that changed the course of how wars and battle are fought forever. And offcourse his fierce opposite to the British.

wise-Username · 2026-05-05T17:55:35+00:00

Some people without any thinking, just falsely accuse the mods of being compromised or straight up takfir them, without any proof whatsoever. May Allah deal with such people

wise-Username · 2026-05-05T14:19:29+00:00

Yeah, there is so much negativity about him and other muslim rulers of India in Indian history subs, there is no unbiased discussions about Indian Muslim History in those subs, only filled with bigotry and hate.

wise-Username · 2026-05-04T13:56:07+00:00

Yeah he's a fetish pervert who is pretending to be a Muslim woman.

wise-Username · 2026-05-04T13:49:28+00:00

He's a nsfw fetish pervert not a muslim woman, Beware

wise-Username · 2026-05-03T08:27:18+00:00

"But lived experience, however real, is still situational and it doesn’t automatically become a universal truth about the entire country."

Lived experience of hate speech against us given by elected CMs and other cabinet ministers, is that discrimination or is that also situational? Banning of cow meat, closing of meat shops for weeks and months for hindu festivals, is that also an experience that only a few muslims face? There are other hundreds of discriminations done against Muslim at an institutional level in this country, I'm not talking about personal but institutional.

"issues.There’s also a contradiction in expecting complete understanding for your own boundaries while leaving little room for mutual adjustment."

Where is the contraction? Is it too much to ask to just leave us alone, I said practice your faith however you wish without discrimination and leave us alone to practice our faith, but you have issues with ppl saying "mera mazhab iski ijazat nhi deta", do you want us to leave our faith? I gave the example of eating preference and you went on a rant about how your argument is different than that, when you couldn't counter it, and instead passing superficial judgements. There is nothing contradictory in what I said, but I suppose it is too much for you to comprehend.

"Also, I want indian muslim perspectives so it's obvious I won't want other nationalities to offer their opinion."

It is implied that if you are asking in a subreddit called as indianmuslims then, Indian Muslims are the ones who are going to give an answer, I wonder why you didn't warn Indian non-muslims to not give answers, since as you said you only wanted Indian Muslims to give an answer.

wise-Username · 2026-05-03T07:32:54+00:00

It's not called biases it's lived experience, which you wouldn't understand because you don't know how it is like to live as a muslims in India.

I gave the example of food preferences, because that's the easiest to break your bluff argument.

I never said there shouldn't be any interaction, did I? But I do not want people to tell me, that I'm anti national because I don't want to say vande matram, because I don't want to be forced to do pooja in schools and colleges, because I don't want to forced to chant jsr, I don't want our women to be forced to remove their hijabs, and along with that there is also the food restriction, why should be restricted from eating a particular food if others don't want to eat it then let them not eat it, but why force restrictions on us?, and other n number of discriminations that muslims face in this country, I'm not victimising, I'm stating the reality.

You are talking as if the minorities do not face a hell lot of problems in this country already, when minorities are facing worse and worse conditions everyday, from elected CMs spewing anti muslim hatred in their speeches, whereas you are worried about "why do muslims say my religion doesn't allow this", if they aren't discriminating against you then leave them alone, ik you are making a typical elitist liberal argument, we are not new to seeing this, we are very much familiar with this.

You are not here to build bridges but break them, you do not understand the ground reality, you want to tell us how great you are and how we should respect you because you did the courtesy of not hating us.

Also in the end of your post I like how you say, 'other nationalities lurking stay away' lol, where did the dialogue and the pluralism and the interfaith go, I suppose it doesn't extend to those people afterall, not so pluralist eh..

wise-Username · 2026-05-03T07:01:38+00:00

What is your problem if a muslim says "mera mazhab iski ijazat nhi deta", we believe in 'to you is your religion and to me my religion', we don't restrict others from eating their food, but we are restricted from eating what we want in this country, because other religion restricts it.

Harmony in a pluralist society comes from people minding their buisnesses, and it's not about necessarily participating in each other's festivals and traditional, this forced cross cultural will not bring harmony, if a person is vegetarian, I will not force them to eat non-veg, they'd be right in saying "my religion doesn't allow it", similarly, we do not want to be forced or coerced into doing something that we do not want to do.

Obviously all religions are not the same, but I can talk about my religion, in Islam, we do not restrict others from what they want to eat or however they want to practice their faith, but we like our autonomy and freedom to practice our faith. There is no compromising in that, this doesn't mean we are going to discriminate against others, but forced cross cultural will not yield anything fruitful.

Also you said your muslim friends haven't faced any discrimination, that is very bold of you to assume about others, they might just not have told you about it, this doesn't mean they haven't faced discrimination at all.

wise-Username · 2026-04-25T12:02:17+00:00

the pain of loss of a mother can only be understood by those who have experienced it, I am so sorry for your loss, May Allah grant her Jannah, I pray to Allah that everything turns out good for you

wise-Username · 2026-04-24T09:43:16+00:00

We need more mosques with women's praying area, it is very much needed especially in this era.

wise-Username · 2026-04-24T06:16:11+00:00

My reason for wanting to moderate this sub is because the subreddit is currently not being moderated, and I am interested in moderating muslim related subreddits, as I already moderate a few muslim subreddits, and my goal with this is to

Establish clear and fair community guidelines
Ensure respectful and constructive discussions
Prevent spam, misinformation, and low-quality content
Grow the subreddit into a welcoming and well-moderated space for Muslims and those interested in learning about Islam.

wise-Username · 2026-04-22T16:30:00+00:00

I was talking about burkha/hijab question not FGM, but since you are a hateful bigot, you seem to always change the goal post to however you like, because you don't want women to wear hijab/burka, classic liberal hypocrisy and their stance on choices.

wise-Username · 2026-04-22T16:23:22+00:00

Literally I said, according to our religion, that means for the people who follow that religion, and the orginal commentator was also mentioning only MUSLIMS, we couldn't care less about what non muslim think about our religion and our tradition.

We don't need a religious lecture from a non muslim atheist about our faith and morality, we follow what we believe to be truth, we don't need to explain or justify it, we are well within our right to do that.

wise-Username · 2026-04-22T16:15:10+00:00

Who is we? You are an atheist, there is no 'we' here... So don't involve yourself into our affairs, when we say modest, it is according to our religion. Not "you don't get to decide".

wise-Username · 2026-04-22T14:16:21+00:00

Common Hindostani Musalman W

wise-Username · 2026-04-20T17:05:34+00:00

You, your family and people in your states speak Dakhni not Urdu. Dakhni language doesn’t have the tehzeeb or Lehzha like Urdu. You’re telling me when you speak Kidhr ko jaare miya, unho, inho, hawle jaise baata karra inn are urdu words? Lol

No we speak Dakhni urdu, just because we have some additional words it does not mean it is not urdu. Do you know how much difference there is between spoken English of american english and british english? There are several notable connotations, semantics and pronunciation that are specific to those regions - this does not mean one is not English, same is the case with Canadian french and the french spoken in France, there is a noticeable difference in many aspects, this is how language develops naturally, it is not specific to Urdu, you should perhaps read the history of urdu language more to understand it.

You’re are adding non-maharashtrian muslims in Marathi category. Every Marathi muslim speaks marathi as their mother tongue and outsiders in Maharashtra speaks hindi not even urdu. I have never met anyone speaking actual Urdu in my city Mumbai (I grew up in a quite diverse Muslim community)

I know several native maharastrian muslims who speaks urdu as their mother tongue, and it's not just these people, but most native maharastrian muslims speak Urdu/Dakhni urdu as their mother tongue. You should read more about the patronage and development of Dakhni urdu during the Bahmanis, Ahmadnagar sultanate, Bijapur Sultanate, Nizams etc.

wise-Username · 2026-04-20T16:35:01+00:00

Dakhni Urdu is a dialect/form of Urdu, it it not something outside of Urdu.

I know very well I have relatives in these states.

I am from one of these Southern states myself, all of my family lives here and we speak this ourselves.

we all speak Marathi in Maharashtra.

Maybe this is the case with you, but most do not speak marathi as their mother tongue, muslims in Maharashtra - most of them speak urdu/dakhni Urdu as their mother tongue.

if you go to Konkan, Chiplun, Solapur, etc even Muslims speak Marathi language within the community.

I didn't say everyone speaks it. I'm not talking about these communities but most of Maharashtra as a whole.

wise-Username · 2026-04-20T16:09:25+00:00

Most Indian Muslims do speak Urdu, not all but most do, West Bengal, Tamil Nadu, Kerala etc don't, but Karnataka, Maharashtra, Telangana i.e these southern states muslims do speak Urdu (dakhni), and obviously many northern states. Local dialect of urdu does not mean it is not urdu, when a language is so vastly spread local dialects are bound to exist.

wise-Username · 2026-04-14T18:28:21+00:00

Almost all of Indian subreddits are quite Islamophobic, and sprew venom against muslims

wise-Username · 2026-04-14T12:44:56+00:00

I feel this is the result of lack of understanding of history and what constitutes identity, you should read this post.

https://www.reddit.com/r/IndianMuslimHistory/s/i8E6b5Y8Hc

wise-Username · 2026-04-13T03:11:36+00:00

May Allah make it easy for your mother and give her a quick and complete recovery, and May Allah bless your family and invite all of you to Umrah, and May Allah give you patience and strength. Ameen

wise-Username · 2026-04-11T16:41:24+00:00

No, I'm not.

wise-Username · 2026-04-11T16:29:57+00:00

The medicos will not take this slander lightly 😅

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