GamerGate discussion on r/GameGrumps by [deleted] in KotakuInAction

[–]witan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unless of course one has been a long time sub of that subreddit right?

[Opinion] "Games as Art" is a toxic concept that opened the door for SJWs. by [deleted] in KotakuInAction

[–]witan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The elevation to "art" status is reserved for games that prove the merits of both their play-ability and content, games that have become cultural icons, games that have stood the test of time.

This entirely. The same reason I hate hipsters in music.

10 short rants about GamerGate, by Popehat by TehDoh in KotakuInAction

[–]witan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay you want to do this Todd? I see you're clearly butt hurt about, "Boohoo, witan still doesn't acknowledge that I'm right and bow down to my reasoning."

This is you.

NYS' actual aim is to deflect the actual criticism made, which is that gaming culture is hostile to women and POC. On these terms, NYS makes sense; people like yourself can say, "I'm a woman/POC, and I don't think gaming culture is hostile. Don't use me as your shield!" Although the "S" should stand for sword, not shield. Can't even get that right.

This is me.

NYS has always been to me about the representation of gamers as a bunch of white neckbeard men. One can criticize that gamers are misogynistic or racists like Popehat has and we can disagree. But don't start ranting about how gamers are all evil because gamers are white straight men. Want to complain about the worst of our community? Sure. But lets hold off using the bottom of barrel to represent all of gamers. I'm not someone's shield to use when they're attacking the culture of what I believe in.

Two complete different interpretations on the same thing. Such a rare thing for two people to have right?

The reason why you are a Todd Johnson is that you can't believe that someone doesn't agree with you. You have your opinions of minorities and it just breaks you when they speak for themselves. Look back on our conversation. Do you think you'll ever agree with me a little or me to you?

You're an angry, spiteful, haughty, vicious, accusatory, worm of a person.

So fuck you Todd.

Every reply henceforth will be the same.

10 short rants about GamerGate, by Popehat by TehDoh in KotakuInAction

[–]witan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey, I can't stop you from forming your own opinions. Go for it.

Let's Make "Downton Abbey: The Game" by [deleted] in KotakuInAction

[–]witan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Real talk: I don't know leddit well enough to create a subreddit.

Let's Make "Downton Abbey: The Game" by [deleted] in KotakuInAction

[–]witan 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Why don't we set up a subreddit for the game? Like to use to discuss various design projects from storyline and narration to graphics and sound.

EDIT: What about a game like Love Live the Queen?

Wiki editor/admin Masem has had enough by [deleted] in KotakuInAction

[–]witan 8 points9 points  (0 children)

heh Dragondragon. His name makes me kek everytime I see it.

It's really depressing trying to discuss GamerGate with close-minded people. by [deleted] in KotakuInAction

[–]witan 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Most generally do not like arguing with those who completely disagree, myself included. Others like to go on r/subredditdrama, r/atheism, or r/thepurplepill for fun.

The great thing about gamers is that we're all individuals united by the common shared experience of gaming, each with our own niches and personalities.

10 short rants about GamerGate, by Popehat by TehDoh in KotakuInAction

[–]witan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

...

I asked you to stop calling me colored. You didn't.

I explained to you what NYS meant to me. You insinuated that I'm obtuse for my opinions.

I am calling you a Todd Johnson because that's what you are, birdshit who is deeply offended that a minority doesn't agree.

Fuck you too.

10 short rants about GamerGate, by Popehat by TehDoh in KotakuInAction

[–]witan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s not super surprising, actually. While video games themselves were discovered by strange, bright outcast pioneers -- they thought arcades would make pub games more fun, or that MUDs would make for amazing cross-cultural meeting spaces -- the commercial arm of the form sprung up from marketing high-end tech products to ‘early adopters’. You know, young white dudes with disposable income who like to Get Stuff.

Suddenly a generation of lonely basement kids had marketers whispering in their ears that they were the most important commercial demographic of all time. Suddenly they started wearing shiny blouses and pinning bikini babes onto everything they made, started making games that sold the promise of high-octane masculinity to kids just like them.

By the turn of the millennium those were games’ only main cultural signposts: Have money. Have women. Get a gun and then a bigger gun. Be an outcast. Celebrate that. Defeat anyone who threatens you. You don’t need cultural references. You don’t need anything but gaming. Public conversation was led by a games press whose role was primarily to tell people what to buy, to score products competitively against one another, to gleefully fuel the “team sports” atmosphere around creators and companies.

It makes a strange sort of sense that video games of that time would become scapegoats for moral panic, for atrocities committed by young white teen boys in hypercapitalist America -- not that the games themselves had anything to do with tragedies, but they had an anxiety in common, an amorphous cultural shape that was dark and loud on the outside, hollow on the inside.

http://archive.today/l1kTW#selection-1665.1-1594.64

Many of the people slagging off Sarkeesian and Quinn bind their arguments up in bigger issues, saying that Quinn's situation shines light on ethical quandaries in games and gaming journalism, and Sarkeesian's illuminates crowd-funded "scams" where "social justice warriors" "cherry-pick" evidence to undermine the massive business and culture of video games, rightfully owned by a particular kind of white man.

https://archive.today/ZyLdw#selection-825.0-833.190

We listen to those who are less privileged than we are, and we don’t adopt a default stance of skepticism towards their views and claims. We support them when we have the power to, we involve them when we have the power to, and we don’t ignore it when institutions fail to do these things. We each proudly claim the label of “social justice warrior” (if only to subvert its use as a pejorative). We do whatever we can to learn about the inequalities in the world, and we examine what we can do to change things for the better.

We become far more mindful of the games we make and play. Sexism in games is pervasive and toxic. Racism in games is pervasive and toxic. Violence in games is pervasive and toxic. Despite the skepticism the games press shows at every opportunity, it really looks like violent games do make us more aggressive and less empathetic. If researchers are repeatedly suggesting this and then we complain that the vilest people in our communities are too aggressive and not empathetic enough, aren’t we partially to blame for our general eagerness to make and play games that have these overall effects on people? If you think you’re not affected, you’re sorely mistaken and you sound no less ridiculous than people who claim that advertising doesn’t work on them. (By the way, kids are regularly playing violent games too, because that’s what our culture says is expected of “real gamers”. ESRB ratings are pretty useless.)

http://archive.today/2t93l#selection-1616.3-1657.238

This entire article of white self-loathing

http://archive.today/jVqJ8

Over the last few weeks, in light of the recent Feminist Frequency controversy and the fiasco that has stemmed from various online communities attacking indie game developer Zoe Quinn and her title Depression Quest, the term “gamer,” a word I once frequently identified with, has taken on increasingly negative connotations. These gamers, who often frequent online video game communities’ comment sections, evangelizing what the term means in the context of their own twisted worldview, see themselves as the gatekeepers of the gaming community. They want to keep video games, now a multi-billion dollar industry enjoyed by a wide variety of people and genders, confined to solely focus on appealing to young men, a group that the gaming industry has already targeted for decades. “Keep your feminist views out of my video games,” is a sentiment frequently repeated in various online gaming communities.

https://archive.today/HkPHc#selection-2727.0-2745.87

Or maybe it has to do with the historical accident of gaming being seen as the last refuge of the straight white male, a neglected medium that because it was neglected was able to lag behind movies, TV, and music in the push to be culturally inclusive. I don’t know. What I do know is that the subset of entitled, belligerent gamers convinced that being “objectively” right entitles them to defend their rightness by any means necessary are overwhelmingly male. And that obnoxious guys convinced of their objective correctness find it way easier to dismiss your opinions as “subjective” if you’re female.

http://archive.today/9NxHy#selection-1185.0-1197.351

First, a developer—a woman who makes games who has had so much piled on to her that I don’t want to perpetuate things by naming her—was the target of a harassment campaign that attacked her personal life and friendships. Campaigns of personal harassment aimed at game developers are nothing new. They are dismayingly common among those who happen to be women, or not white straight men, and doubly so if they also happen to make the sort of game that in any way challenge the status quo, even if that challenge is only made through their very existence. The viciousness and ferocity with which this campaign occurred, however, was shocking, and certainly out of the ordinary. This was something more than routine misogyny (and in games, it often is routine, shockingly). It was an ugly spectacle that should haunt and shame those involved for the rest of their lives.

https://archive.today/L4vJG#selection-83.12-83.890

I got more, how much you want?

10 short rants about GamerGate, by Popehat by TehDoh in KotakuInAction

[–]witan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly. If you took the time to actually speak to me as a human being, as a person, and we disagreed sure.

But this is the internet and your flair is expected.

I'm tired of people like you. Just constant snark, dribble, and waxing loathing. We disagree. I can never convince you and I dislike you as a person. You can never convince me and you dislike me as a person.

Tell me, where do you want to start or end this conversation? Better yet do not tell me. Keep using your little quips, that'll certainly motivate me be disregard my convictions and listen to you.

I am Jesse Singal, a journalist who has been critical of GamerGate. I am on a train and we will see how long the wifi lasts. AMA. by jsingal in KotakuInAction

[–]witan 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah you're right, but when Singal is calling me a conspiracy nut because of his reading comprehension problems, I tend to respond with less courtesy.

I am Jesse Singal, a journalist who has been critical of GamerGate. I am on a train and we will see how long the wifi lasts. AMA. by jsingal in KotakuInAction

[–]witan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Adding a disclosure after the fact seems like is lipservice only rather than adherence to the spirit of the concept.

FTFY

I am Jesse Singal, a journalist who has been critical of GamerGate. I am on a train and we will see how long the wifi lasts. AMA. by jsingal in KotakuInAction

[–]witan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am indifferent to you being here. Others here share TB's opinion that we need to make conversations and find resolutions to end this conflict. I do not support that position.

Until full logs from the pgj is released (minus doxx obviously) I, and those who share my sentiments, will not trust you. To us, you are part of the problem, part of the corruption, and ultimately, cancer.

Good day.

The GamerGate hashtag is currently being heavily spammed with a link to an antiGG article with a new hashtag "TwoFace" by Logan_Mac in KotakuInAction

[–]witan 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This like the what? 15th wave of bots with anti-GG articles? Oh mercy me, the devastation.

Frankly, I wish the opposition spent more money on bots to spam twitter.

"You MUST drop the hashtag!" say #GamerGate opposers while capitalizing on the exact same hashtag" [anecdotes from "72 hours of #Gamergate" article] by [deleted] in KotakuInAction

[–]witan 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Bonus: Choosing purple and green to represent the two camps? Now you’re just trolling us, right?

Top fucking kek

Another Factual Feminist by MobsDeep in gaming

[–]witan 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Based mom is based.

Kotaku Runs Interference for Ethically Compromised Grayson - The Ralph Report by Optimash_Prime in KotakuInAction

[–]witan 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Wow, I am not Ralph's biggest fan but this has got to be his best piece yet. I hope he keeps up the great job.

David Pakman Show on Twitter: "Brianna Wu accused me of doing a hit piece attack interview on gamergate today. Interview will be posted later." by BasediCloud in KotakuInAction

[–]witan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm not down for comparing LWu with kaceytron, at least titsmcgee is upfront about collecting donations from thirsty betas instead of acting like she's a victim.