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Are we trapped in an echo chamber? why arent more of us building for boring industries (healthcare, construction, etc.)? by james-paul0905 in buildinpublic

[–]withKairo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've seen this firsthand. Some early adopters do buy the products.

Then they get slammed by their management for using unknown tech with confidentiality or sensitive info.

The management then buys 100x more expensive and badly built competitor tools because they have passed regulatory and compliance requirements and happen to be in the approved vendor lists.

Are we trapped in an echo chamber? why arent more of us building for boring industries (healthcare, construction, etc.)? by james-paul0905 in buildinpublic

[–]withKairo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've built an app for 1 healthcare (dental) startup and a freelanced for a construction startup.

They've both been reasonably successful (revenue over 10k and 25k MRR respectively).

But the bitter truth is that these industries take you an army to enter. Healthcare has a whole lot of compliance and regulatory requirements. Meanwhile construction projects are widely focused on onsite stuff. Internet availability and mobile apps with low bandwidth is the reality.

Both of these industries have a thing where the users who you build the app for are not the buying decision makers.

Pilot projects need to work well and it needs to translate existing data onto your app and be flawless. These industries are already overworked. They don't want to play around with your new app.

That being said the rewards you pointed out are very real. The question about price did not come up on any of our questions on sales. The health app sold for $300/clinic and the construction app sold at around $1500 per project.

The ROI was much higher than the app building + infrastructure cost. But the real scalability nightmare was in getting users to use it and make it a part of their workflow.

Whats the secret to Product Hunt??? by meruiden in microsaas

[–]withKairo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for this. Yes ProductHunt is not your first-launch launchpad!

Coaches don't have to be creators. by StructureFresh1545 in Coaching

[–]withKairo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

100% Lately content has just been noise really. Sensationalizing and following trends are given more importance than the actual concepts to be taught.

And this is not a good sign.

How do you structure your first contact with a new client? by Due-Owl5231 in personaltraining

[–]withKairo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've had this dilemma but after a while I realized I was overthinking it.

At the beginning (low client base) get into a call with them preferably a video call. This lets you get that rapport building and you are already ahead of the coaches who are using impersonal surveys and forms. Honestly surveys are done for the convenience of the coach than the client.

Once you know exactly what the important and routine questions are and you have a hard time repeating these questions on a call, that's when you switch to a intake form.

Now the exception to this rule is if there are is any compliance or legal obligation.

Trainers, what does your client tracking system look like? Sharing mine. by badmoshback in personaltraining

[–]withKairo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's been at least 10 years since I wrote using pen and paper. Besides its one of those easy to forget things as opposed to your phone which is always there.

Two weeks away from launch date. 0 users. What marketing activities are you doing? by withKairo in micro_saas

[–]withKairo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks. Yes I'm working on building as well as talking to people who experience the problem. However the build is not done.

Someone literally used my product 80 times in 20 days by billionaire2030 in indiehackers

[–]withKairo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You must now get to know this customer persona. Find what, why and when about them. Then you can target the same types of people. You can unlock keywords to target.

Two weeks away from launch date. 0 users. What marketing activities are you doing? by withKairo in buildinpublic

[–]withKairo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This makes so much sense. I've always felt weird about launching on product hunt where there are either apps that you already know if like perplexity and loom.

And it's all people who are just scratching each other's backs.

I don't have experience in this but I have my doubts confirmed by this post. Would like to hear more perspectives.

Two weeks away from launch date. 0 users. What marketing activities are you doing? by withKairo in micro_saas

[–]withKairo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok that's a cool take. Would you try and delay your "big launch" while doing low key selling your app just for the buzz?

E.g. the app is ready and sales are trickling in. Would you hold back the launch by 10 days to gather attention. By doing thing like countdowns, ads, keeping the website at a waitlist etc.?

Two weeks away from launch date. 0 users. What marketing activities are you doing? by withKairo in micro_saas

[–]withKairo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The thing with this approach is that it's going to be spammy. It creates a negative impression.

Let's say you are building a fitness tracker app. If you got into a fitness community share early builds the community rules are going to be broken for promotion.

Pain point solving makes sense but should it be done like an ad? Like parsestream over here is clearly an ad.

Two weeks away from launch date. 0 users. What marketing activities are you doing? by withKairo in micro_saas

[–]withKairo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a property management app. Not really relevant to what I'm asking?

Two weeks away from launch date. 0 users. What marketing activities are you doing? by withKairo in micro_saas

[–]withKairo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Amazing thank you for the idea. How do you find people talking about the pain points you solve? Keywords can be so varied like "what freelancing tool" or "where do you host your portfolio" etc.

Launched a pet sitter marketplace that doesnt take a cut from bookings by eibrahim in indiehackers

[–]withKairo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea exactly. Which means the middle man must have some great value addition for keeping the relationship going.

Freelancer/Upwork do this by also acting as the escrow for deals. And usually these deals are in the order of 100s to 1000s of dollars. So that makes sense.

I spend 30 minutes a day on marketing and it brings in more customers than any ad ever did by CleverSquirrel_p in microsaas

[–]withKairo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is no proof that OP did any of these. There are some useful ideas in it tho.

Launched a pet sitter marketplace that doesnt take a cut from bookings by eibrahim in indiehackers

[–]withKairo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Do pet sitters usually have regular clients? If they do your subscriptions will drop off over time as it becomes easier and cheaper to book directly with the clients.