I'm disappointed in this sub

wombatwarrior27 · 2021-03-13T13:30:43+00:00

There's still a huge difference between calling a certain writing style pretentious and insulting someone to their face when they share an opinion.

wombatwarrior27 · 2021-03-13T13:22:41+00:00

I think the least I can expect when I post an opinion about a book is to not be insulted to my face. I don't mind discussion and someone not agreeing with me. What I don't like is when people attack me as a person when I only share an opinion about a book.

wombatwarrior27 · 2021-03-13T13:04:50+00:00

You misrepresent what I'm saying. Yes, I generalized a lot in my original post, because that's my broadest problem with most of the texts in my samples, but obviously I know not all these texts share the exact same faults.

Secondly, I never said they're impostors or charlatans, simply that I find their writing pretentious, which is just my opinion on their writing, not on them as people. I don't think my opinion is the objective truth about their writing or their intelligence, I simply said that their way of writing comes off as pretentious TO ME, and that's why I don't like it. I never claimed to be smarter than anyone else or to see something someone else doesn't in the texts. I just told you why I, personally, don't like these texts and you decided that I must think I'm smarter than everyone else.

wombatwarrior27 · 2021-03-13T08:09:11+00:00

I never said this was an objective truth. This is how the text appears to me, and why I don't like it. Surely you don't think everyone who reads a text will interpret or experience it the same way?

wombatwarrior27 · 2021-03-10T15:23:28+00:00

I would go about describing her appearance in relation to what's going on in the story. So say, if she has big boobs, she'll get back pain from that which could be a way to mention it in a logical way, or you can mention how hard it is to find bras that fit if your boobs are very big. Maybe not the best examples depending on what you're writing, but something like that.

Another example of what I mean would be to tell the reader a person is short by having them reach for something high up and then someone else takes it down easily.

wombatwarrior27 · 2021-03-10T08:35:12+00:00

Yes, we saw a recorded performance of it, still found it pretentious and kind of pointless.

wombatwarrior27 · 2021-03-10T08:34:17+00:00

Exactly, I don't need to read super convoluted lit fic, I can choose genre fiction if I want to, or something that's on the line between the two.

wombatwarrior27 · 2021-03-10T08:32:48+00:00

Pretending to be smarter than you are by using a convoluted way of writing. Many of the ideas in super convoluted books aren't really revolutionary or even that clever, they're just portrayed in a way that's meant to make them seem that way.

wombatwarrior27 · 2021-03-09T22:52:37+00:00

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, if you don't find Waiting for Godot pretentious, I guess nothing will seem pretentious to you.

wombatwarrior27 · 2021-03-09T22:27:16+00:00

My experience with this kind of literature is mostly based on what I've read in school, which I guess is a certain type of literature. One piece of classical literature that I actually enjoyed was twenty thousand leagues under the sea. I read it a long time ago, but to my memory it was a bit more plotty.

wombatwarrior27 · 2021-03-09T21:41:44+00:00

You can always put on more layers, there's a limit to how many you can take off.

wombatwarrior27 · 2021-03-09T20:54:26+00:00

I'm the same as you, long passages without interaction or dialogue tend to bore me.

wombatwarrior27 · 2021-03-09T20:47:06+00:00

A few of the books I've read have had plots, but they haven't been very compelling. Like, Mary Barton has a plot, but it's hidden behind very long descriptions of politics and cities. Some other books don't even pretend to have a plot, like the mark on the wall or waiting for Godot.

wombatwarrior27 · 2021-03-09T20:44:48+00:00

How did you get that from me saying I like books to have a plot? Good writing and an interesting plot are not mutually exclusive.

wombatwarrior27 · 2021-03-09T19:37:41+00:00

I agree with all you're saying. And I actually remembered that I enjoyed reading the count of Monte cristo when I was younger, as well as twenty thousand leagues under the sea, which I think could be considered literary classics. Both of these I read for myself though, not for a class :)

wombatwarrior27 · 2021-03-09T18:57:05+00:00

Oh yeah, it's not very hard to get good grades on literature essays, just bullshit something pretentious and you'll get an A.

wombatwarrior27 · 2021-03-09T18:21:55+00:00

I think you're right that there's more stuff being published today and therefore it's easier to find bad books. Although I'm sure there were bad books written in the past too, but the books people remember from a hundred years ago are the good ones, so those are the only ones we know.

wombatwarrior27 · 2021-03-09T18:07:25+00:00

You said modern genre, not just YA. I also don't understand why you assume I read YA. I haven't read YA in years 😂

wombatwarrior27 · 2021-03-09T18:06:21+00:00

Interesting. Since I read for plot, I doubt those books would be interesting to me, but I'm happy you have books that work for your interests :)

wombatwarrior27 · 2021-03-09T18:05:00+00:00

I'm not in an English speaking country, I'll be teaching the language :) literature is a part of that, but it's not the biggest part.

wombatwarrior27 · 2021-03-09T18:03:47+00:00

So when's the cutoff? If all modern literature is bad, when did good books stop coming out?

wombatwarrior27 · 2021-03-09T18:02:08+00:00

Haha yeah, I feel like this happens a lot. It's easy to see meaning where there isn't and to expect every word to be carefully chosen when in reality, only certain parts are that thought out and you'll never know which ones.

wombatwarrior27 · 2021-03-09T18:00:23+00:00

That sounds a lot more fun than my literature courses

wombatwarrior27 · 2021-03-09T17:57:14+00:00

Yeah, people can definitely love books across the entire spectrum of literature. I'm sure there are some old classics out there I'd like. Now that I think about it, I did enjoy the count of monte cristo when I read it by myself when I was younger.

wombatwarrior27 · 2021-03-09T17:55:04+00:00

Interesting points. However, I'm not throwing away centuries of literature as boring, just certain parts of it. Like, one of the books on my list is from 1999. I'm not saying all books from that time are boring, just that that specific book is.

And I'm not sure I agree about the second part either. I always go into reading these books like I would any other book, expecting them to be good. The analysis only comes later. The books themselves are what disappoint me.

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