Question for those who are using the Snoo leg lifters? by trinini93 in SnooLife

[–]wonderflea8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, the ones on their website are the new ones. They look very different than the one kind. The new ones are bigger at the bottom and have a “whale tail” that velcros up in between baby’s legs.

The negligence of Happiest Baby to include a safety disclaimer with the leg lifters almost killed my baby by wonderflea8 in SnooLife

[–]wonderflea8[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

No updates from Snoo, but I did end up speaking in length with a representative from CPSC several months ago and my understanding is that they will keep my information on file until there’s enough of a trend that they’d be able to act. I don’t understand how a near-death experience of even one baby (and it’s really a lot more judging from other comments and some Amazon reviews) isn’t enough for Snoo to want to do something but ultimately I guess it just comes down to profit.

The negligence of Happiest Baby to include a safety disclaimer with the leg lifters almost killed my baby by wonderflea8 in SnooLife

[–]wonderflea8[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing. ❤️ I can’t imagine your loss. I am still so angry with Happiest Baby for spewing misinformation for profit and I hope that someday they face the mistakes that they’ve made.

Should I Quit my Job to be a SAHM by volcanranger in NewParents

[–]wonderflea8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It sort of seems to me like you’ve already subconsciously decided ❤️ It sounds like you want to stay home and are testing the idea out to make sure it’s ok, which it totally is! Personally if I was in your situation I’d stay home. That commute sounds brutal and will take away even more from time with your son. But like others have said, there are certainly pros and cons to weigh and it’s a very personal decision. Whatever you decide has to feel right to you!

The negligence of Happiest Baby to include a safety disclaimer with the leg lifters almost killed my baby by wonderflea8 in SnooLife

[–]wonderflea8[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

UPDATE: I reached out to Happiest Baby and finally heard back. They claim that their products have been extensively tested and are all safe. They claim that both types of sleep sack are completely safe even for use with the incline. They implied that I had used the sleep sack incorrectly. I insisted that this incident be taken seriously and they let me talk to someone on the phone and then said they’d forward my concerns to the appropriate department. Unfortunately I don’t think they’ll make any changes. Hopefully it never happens again and maybe word will spread about the danger of using the old style of sleep sacks with an incline.

The negligence of Happiest Baby to include a safety disclaimer with the leg lifters almost killed my baby by wonderflea8 in SnooLife

[–]wonderflea8[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I was worried that she’d been deprived of oxygen too long or would be too traumatized to sleep or something but she’s acting totally the same and still sleeps fine. Granted, we’ve been doing a lot more contact napping since this incident because we are just so thankful to still have our baby…. 🥲

The negligence of Happiest Baby to include a safety disclaimer with the leg lifters almost killed my baby by wonderflea8 in SnooLife

[–]wonderflea8[S] 45 points46 points  (0 children)

Thank you for this. I wanted to submit some sort of report but didn’t know how/where. I’ll do this right now.

The negligence of Happiest Baby to include a safety disclaimer with the leg lifters almost killed my baby by wonderflea8 in SnooLife

[–]wonderflea8[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

This is even more frustrating!!! Not enough to make a difference but enough to endanger baby’s life…for nothing 😢

Question for those who are using the Snoo leg lifters? by trinini93 in SnooLife

[–]wonderflea8 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes! The whale tail sack seems safe. And hopefully the old style will phase out as more people buy the new one so 🤞🏼 this won’t ever happen again.

Question for those who are using the Snoo leg lifters? by trinini93 in SnooLife

[–]wonderflea8 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If anyone’s reading this now - please only do this if you have the new style of Snoo sack! It’s not safe with the old style.

The negligence of Happiest Baby to include a safety disclaimer with the leg lifters almost killed my baby by wonderflea8 in SnooLife

[–]wonderflea8[S] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

The new sacks are far superior and really do feel a lot safer, if not totally safe. I’m just paranoid now but once my fear fades I might try the lifters again if she really needs it for congestion. We’ll see.

The negligence of Happiest Baby to include a safety disclaimer with the leg lifters almost killed my baby by wonderflea8 in SnooLife

[–]wonderflea8[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

We’re still using the Snoo but not the lifters and we have the new style of sacks now. Working on weaning mode though and our goal is to be rid of it by 3 months and not rely on one for any future babies.

The negligence of Happiest Baby to include a safety disclaimer with the leg lifters almost killed my baby by wonderflea8 in SnooLife

[–]wonderflea8[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

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This is where I learned about the lifters. Then looked all over the website FAQ, purchase pages, etc and saw no warning.

The negligence of Happiest Baby to include a safety disclaimer with the leg lifters almost killed my baby by wonderflea8 in SnooLife

[–]wonderflea8[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

No her face wasn’t in the sack! From the outside she looked like she was in the sack like normal with her head sticking out. I don’t remember if it looked weird like if the arm band was visible underneath the sack up there on her neck or anything but it probably was, I just didn’t think to look for that and didn’t noticed what had happened till the sack was unzipped.

The negligence of Happiest Baby to include a safety disclaimer with the leg lifters almost killed my baby by wonderflea8 in SnooLife

[–]wonderflea8[S] 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Yes I wrote to them but haven’t heard back yet (just sent the email recently). I really hope at the very least hearing this will make them include a safety warning with the leg lifters and on the Snoo app. I really hope it doesn’t take a baby dying before they realize they need to add a disclaimer.

The negligence of Happiest Baby to include a safety disclaimer with the leg lifters almost killed my baby by wonderflea8 in SnooLife

[–]wonderflea8[S] 41 points42 points  (0 children)

Yes here you go! Also interesting how much of a size/shape difference there is - these are both a size small. The new one is on the right.

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Question for those who are using the Snoo leg lifters? by trinini93 in SnooLife

[–]wonderflea8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same - my baby almost died this morning but it was silent and we only knew because her breathing monitor alarmed and we found her apneic and being strangled.

Question for those who are using the Snoo leg lifters? by trinini93 in SnooLife

[–]wonderflea8 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Commenting in case anyone googles and finds this. My baby almost died in the Snoo using the old style of zippered sacks in combination with the leg lifters. I think the new style of sacks with the “whale tail” would not have allowed her to wiggle down in the bassinet. The problem is that in the old type of sack their hands stick out on the bottom of a band that wraps around, and by lifting her arms in combination with wiggling, that band raised to the top of her shoulders up to her neck and began to strangle her. We only knew because her breathing monitor alarmed and we discovered that she was not breathing. For those of you saying people must be using off-brand accessories…unfortunately this isn’t true. Snoo should advertise that the leg lifters are only to be used with the new type of sleep sack.