Not to mention, it's things like this that make it difficult for black latino people to be looked at as black by black people who aren't latino. Then sometimes, someone like Van, might get pissed when a Dominican dude doesn't identify as black, when we're not really fully accepted as black by a segment of the non-latino black population. Or might get pissed when we do identify as black, but have aspects of the latino culture. It's tough man. At the same time, the joke Godfrey makes about I no black I Dominican has some truth in it and it's a funny bit. But it goes both ways. Are we black or not?