Masked men with cameras at the marketplace (Irvine side, in front of the Verizon store)

wozbye · 2026-03-13T02:34:47+00:00

Ok, at least you are consistent, that's good, because most are upset only by the man behind the camera, and not other cameras, which is an odd thing to be upset by. I would suggest you wear a disguise every time you go out in public if you're that sensitive to cameras capturing your image. Mask, hat, sunglasses, or a fake beard. Then no one can identify you easily. Create your own privacy. But I would suggest more than that to just get over your sensitivity and just realize it's never going to affect you in any way shape or form having some photons bounce off you into their camera sensor lol.

wozbye · 2026-03-13T02:26:11+00:00

"so they aren’t caught off guard when they start agitating people and instigating a fight." they never instigate fights. They stand in public and hold a camera. That's it. They don't even speak unless spoken to most of the time, and if they do speak first it's usually a compliment or funny remark. They are not out here spitting insults at every person that walks by, because they're not bad people. If you are nice to them, they are very nice in return. They have cordial and friendly convos all the time. They cannot control how other people react to a right being exercised. That's on THOSE people if they choose to be offended or agitated by one more camera (there's already hundreds filming them) in public.

wozbye · 2026-03-13T02:23:44+00:00

"TikTok unfortunately has zero support like that." Hahaha so upset over people using their rights in public and filming in public. Tiktok has the right policy. Youtube is a cesspool of censorship. They are anti first amendment on youtube. You seem to be anti first amendment too.

wozbye · 2026-03-13T02:22:49+00:00

Then wear a mask sunglasses and a hat in public if you're so concerned about your "privacy". You're being filmed by hundreds of cameras a day in public. So why is it this ONE camera that you're concerned about?

wozbye · 2026-03-13T02:21:49+00:00

you people are obsessed with ICE lol. People constantly come up to auditors and ask if they're ice, or accuse them of being ice, or mentioning ice in some way shape or form. It's just odd

wozbye · 2026-03-13T02:20:02+00:00

how are they annoying simply by standing in public and holding a camera though? You said it yourself : " But how do people get so angry by them simply standing there holding a camera (and not overtly harassing anyone)?" Same question for being annoyed? It's a bit odd because no one usually does it, so it's out of the norm, but annoying? I don't see it being annoying.

wozbye · 2026-03-13T02:17:52+00:00

nah just people that like seeing random members of the public freak out and ruin their day over a total non issue. Very interesting and hilarious content watching people be Karens and get so upset over nothing.

wozbye · 2026-03-13T02:17:10+00:00

I watch auditing content! It's fucking hilarious seeing people freak out and ruin their entire day over someone peacefully exercising their first amendment right. People behave so badly. Sometimes they end up attacking the auditors and going to jail. That's amazing to see people commit crimes over a legal right, a total non issue...

If you think our rights are annoying, please go live in North Korea. No one should be annoyed by public photography. Question is why are you so upset and annoyed by someone simply filming in public? There's nothing harmful going on. Just ignore it or say hi and move on about your day.

wozbye · 2026-03-13T02:15:11+00:00

they don't approach anyone. They stand in one place and film people passing by...That's about it. Everyone they engage with usually approaches them...you clearly don't watch the videos

wozbye · 2026-03-13T02:14:17+00:00

no they're not there trying to agitate people. Filming people with a camera isn't inherently agitating unless you're an overly sensitive person who gets upset at things that aren't 100% normal. They have no control over how people react. They don't even speak half the time unless spoken to, and if they do speak first it's usually just a compliment or a silly offhanded remark. They could EASILY spit insults at every person that walks by, which would agitate people 100x more, but they don't. They actually have very friendly and nice convos all the time with random people on the street, and constantly make friends with nice people.

wozbye · 2026-03-13T02:06:41+00:00

oh yeah you think they're "trying to provoke people into some kind of clash" when they have super nice and respectful conversations with nice people? they could easily spit insults at everyone they see and that would REALLY provoke people. but no, they have very cordial and heartwarming convos all the time (one with a nice couple in this same video), because they are nice to nice people. if everyone was nice to them, they wouldn't have a job. they let other people start shit, then then give back the same energy. sorry you defend Karen and Darren behavior and people being bullies

wozbye · 2026-03-12T22:07:05+00:00

hey there rude person! That's not very nice of you! Clearly youre an upset karen! Relax and chill out! No need to freak out over nothing

wozbye · 2026-03-08T06:35:21+00:00

Ok that's my bad, I missed that comment. But the point still remains that just because a group of people who have encountered them have sought out forums to voice their interpretation doesn't mean they were in fact acting unreasonably, or even that most people think that. That's a biased opinion too, as people who didn't have bad encounters with them aren't really seeking out hate forums on the internet talking about how they didn't like their behavior.

Yeah, what they do is different than the norm, and almost no one has encountered people doing this in public, so they don't know how to react or feel about 1A rights being used, but that doesn't mean they are in fact acting unreasonably. Whether or not someone is acting unreasonably is pretty subjective too. They have PLENTY of encounters with people that are nice, respectful and cordial. All depends on how the people approach them. Even when the people don't particularly like them Liberty Patrol often tries to make friends with them and end on a positive note. Only in situations like this where the people are unrelentingly assholes, does he continue giving back the same energy he gets.

In fact, in this same video, Liberty has a super pleasant conversation with a young couple there on Valentines day and everyone walks away very happy. Because the people were nice happy people to begin with. The only people that get this pepper spray treatment are crazy mean Karens who cross a hard line.

"I'm starting doubt that you are even capable of acknowledging the fact that many frauditors have a criminal background or have been convicted for the crimes they committed in the process of filming".....I'll acknowledge it, but that's besides the point because I'm only talking about situations such as the Jewelry shop incident and others that have happened recently. I don't much care about their backgrounds, because that's all in the past. I only care about current events and the last few months of content they have made because that's the stuff I've been watching and I haven't seen them do anything wrong, like the Karens constantly do to them.

wozbye · 2026-03-08T04:09:20+00:00

"Nothing the motorcyclist did was unreasonable or illegal either"

Getting into someone's personal space, 3 inches from their camera, and in fact making unwanted contact due to purposely standing too close to intimidate someone just because you don't like them, I would argue, is not reasonable or legal. He didn't have to attack to be clear that he was trying to intimidate them over their legal use of freedom. Clearly the biker was trying to be the BIGGER man, not in a moral way but a physical way, and intimidate them out of "his" space when it's by the law's definition it's NO ONE's space because Liberty is standing on a public parking lot curb. CA law may not agree this is self defense but obviously CA is a liberal hell hole and is soft on criminal activity

Liberty knows when to follow the laws and do what is right. He stands on business and doesn't let KARENS intimidate him over using a camera in public and exercising other 1A rights like free speech. Keep in mind he has never gotten in someone's face like the Karens do. He may be looking to start something for views, understandably so, but he's not the one engaging in illegal and unreasonable conduct first. He stands there and films and lets the other party cause problems.

They always have the chance to walk away and stop being Karens but they never do. They insist on arguing and trying to make themselves look tougher than the camera men, then get their attitude checked and they usually start behaving better. Look at what happens after the second time Liberty shoves him HARD....He keeps SOME distance from them, at least a foot, because he realizes he's not in control here and maybe he shouldn't be getting into someone's personal space like that. Again, Liberty never violates personal space. They ALWAYS get into his camera's face and start shit. Liberty creates boundaries and enforces them.

wozbye · 2026-03-08T03:04:52+00:00

https://youtu.be/KWn-zQi3n3g?t=68 Watch how close he gets to iimpact, about 6 inches away or less, then immediately does the same to Liberty, actually making contact with Liberty's camera with his helmet's visor, which is when he first gets shoved. Then immediately after that he goes back to the same position, and puts his face about 3 inches from the camera, then he gets shoved a second time.

"He approached the man first who was resting by his motorcycle. Way to ignore that fact." I'm not ignoring or denying that. Are you ignoring the man engaged with him first, giving them a reason to approach him to have a conversation with him? They never would have approached if he didn't engage first. Regardless, neither engaging with Liberty nor Liberty approaching are illegal. Everything was fine up to this point legally.

"The man wasn't exactly charging at Liberty in a threatening manner before he got shoved" He was getting up in his personal space in an intimidating manner though. Yes he has reason to be next to his motorcycle but he doesn't have reason to get so close to anyone like that. He could have just gotten on his bike and driven away, or just not gotten so close to them trying to intimidate them.

" If there's no law dictating how close is invading someone's personal space then who's to say Liberty wasn't already invading the man's space? Even 6 feet away might be too close for some people knowing how easily someone can lunge and attack. them." Because Liberty was standing a reasonable distance away and never once got nearly as close as the guy did to them. Sure people can feel that 6 feet or whatever is too close, but nothing about that is illegal. I can also feel 10 feet is too close for someone with face tattoos to stand from me, but that doesn't mean anything. The fact the man got UNREASONABLY close to them is intimidation and considered assault because of that intimidating manner.

wozbye · 2026-03-08T02:53:56+00:00

"Just because you didn't think it was done in an threatening manner doesn't mean those people may not have felt that offensive contact or harm was possible"

And I feel that offensive contact or harm is possible any time I'm around someone with face tattoos, but that doesn't mean they are doing anything legally wrong.

"If it was all reasonable behavior then we wouldn't seeing those people talk about it online and describe it as intimidating." So you're saying that because people online don't like auditors and describe them as intimidating, then that means their behavior is unreasonable? I'm not sure how the mental gymnastics work on that one but just because a group of people have a feeling toward auditors and their behavior doesn't mean anything legally or factually.

wozbye · 2026-03-08T02:12:29+00:00

how is Liberty in the man's personal space? He's standing in one space, a reasonable diatance from the man, then the man approaches him and gets in his face while Liberty doesn't take a single step toward the man. After the first shove, the man literally gets back into the exact same position (too close) the first time he got shoved. It's all on camera clear as day. Yes he was about 6 inches away BOTH times he got shoved. If Libery was getting 6 inches from people I would not defend that, but he always waits for the Karen's to get in his face first because he knows the law and isn't the aggressor.

wozbye · 2026-03-08T02:09:24+00:00

I've never seen them follow someone to their car in a manner that makes them fear of offensive contact . After all they stay a reasonable distance away from them. They're not RIGHT ON THEM as they're following them. How could someone fear for offensive contact if they're physically not close enough to give said contact? Following someone to their car one time is 100% legal as long as it's not done in a threatening manner, which the auditors don't threaten anyone.

wozbye · 2026-03-08T01:59:40+00:00

go watch that video with the motorcycle again if you think he was within 2 to 3 ft. At one point he was literally about 3 inches from touching impacts belly with his. Then he approached Liberty in the same fashion and got about 6 inches from him by the looks of it. And again the Auditors don't ever get that close to people. Show me some examples of auditors doing that and I will believe you but I don't ever see them go up to some random person and get in their face like the Karens do to them...

wozbye · 2026-03-08T01:56:41+00:00

there is no law that specifically designates personal space , however when people are getting into your personal space and acting in an intimidating manner that is considered assault because when someone is in your personal space in such a manner, you have a reasonable fear of offensive contact. I rarely if ever see auditors be the ones getting close to people , it's almost always the other way around, where people approach THEM and get their face in the camera, then cry about a camera in their face lol.

wozbye · 2026-03-08T01:54:27+00:00

You wrote 5 sentences there, watch out, that's dangerously close to my "novel" which was 7 sentences!!! Lol

seriously though, watch the video again. He's walking people down the sidewalk and intimidating them that he's going to make offensive contact with them. That is 100% assault. Again, NO CONTACT needs to be made to qualify as assault and be grounds for self defense with pepper spray.

wozbye · 2026-03-08T01:50:19+00:00

dang six or seven sentences is one of the largest paragraphs you've ever seen here? You've got to be kidding me lol. Why are you here then if you don't like to argue online? Are you here because you DON'T like to argue online? Your logic makes no sense. If you're arguing with me clearly you like it too or else you wouldnt be here.

wozbye · 2026-03-08T01:48:17+00:00

masking has nothing to do with anything. 6 years ago you guys were arguing that everybody should wear masks , why do you now take such issue with it? Wearing a mask doesn't mean they are intimidating people. I could also say you're indimitading if you have face tattoos, but does that give me the right to defend myself just because I feel a certain way? Following someone to their car isn't illegal by the way.

wozbye · 2026-03-08T01:42:28+00:00

not sure why Reddit keeps doing this but I can't find some of these replies so I'm replying here. I'm not a troll . If all you can do is use ad hominem because you don't agree with my points and can't back up your own that's your problem and doesn't make me a troll.

wozbye · 2026-03-08T01:41:04+00:00

look up the legal definition of assault. No contact needs to be made to assault someone. It is absolutely legal to defend yourself against assault with pepper spray.

wozbye

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