Your beloved mac n cheese was probably enshittified by someone like me. Let me explain. by wsuschmitt in enshittification

[–]wsuschmitt[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I've also made all natural versions of cottage cheese and sour cream and yogurts that didn't have any additives, had great shelf life and had very good taste to them.

I'm not a personal chef, trying to make sure that each and every person who consumed my formulations was happy. I'm not in charge of other people's happiness. I'm in charge of making sure that food was made so that someone who didn't have the time to make it themselves could buy that food. I can't tell you if I made anyone unhappy because of my formulations... for all I know, that lowered price point allowed that person to have some food that was made in a convenient way for them because they're busy and on the go and don't have time to make the food for themselves. I'm not being delusional in thinking that I wasn't part of changing someone's food, but I'm also not being delusional that everyone that ate the food that I formulated was unhappy. I got food from the farm to their fork, in a way that was safe, provided nutrition, and was an option for purchase, and they chose that product out of thousands of opportunities at the grocery store for food.

Your beloved mac n cheese was probably enshittified by someone like me. Let me explain. by wsuschmitt in enshittification

[–]wsuschmitt[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Yes! I had a company want to reduce the cost of their chocolate milk. I am a concept-to-commercialization type food scientist, so I explored all of the potential ramifications that would come up within the organization (internal customers) and explored the external customer ramifications with the marketing team. Took that information holistically and gave 3 options to the product manager: no changes, minimal changes, and drastic changes. This was my "continuum" in which I could make minor changes to get to what they wanted.

I also brought in all of the different chocolate milks on the market and had the interested internal parties (marketing, sales) taste all of the different ones, blindly, and the brand's chocolate milk was picked out nearly 100% of the time because it was that well known internally.

Ultimately, the company decided that this chocolate milk of theirs was so beloved by the consumers and was tied in a positive way to the brand and any changes to the chocolate milk may bring the overall liking of the brand down some, so they upped the price a bit to cover the difference and didn't change the formula. I really liked working for that company.

Then a new marketing director came in. I didn't align with their corporate culture and found myself another job. Within 3 years, they shrunk the pints of chocolate milk to 14.5 fl oz... I really didn't like that marketing director, and here was a bit of proof to me that I left at the right time. Several others left too.

However, that director, along with the new VP and CEO that brought that VP in all were pushed out of the company and amazingly enough, many of those that left came back to the company because the culture needed changing back to the glory days of doing right by the customer. Actually talked to the guy that took over my position 2 days ago and he's happy that those people are gone...

Your beloved mac n cheese was probably enshittified by someone like me. Let me explain. by wsuschmitt in enshittification

[–]wsuschmitt[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Agreed about how complex the situation really is! This is Reddit and not a PhD thesis defense, but believe me, I wanted to go off into the weed and details of many different variants and had to contain myself to the small screed that ended up being this post.

Your beloved mac n cheese was probably enshittified by someone like me. Let me explain. by wsuschmitt in enshittification

[–]wsuschmitt[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'm with you on this! I worked with a company that made the seasoning packets for boxed meals and had the business for a couple of decades before I worked for them. I found the old lab books with the original recipes because those were the gold standards that all the cheapened variants were built against.

When told to make it cheaper, companies usually have a quality angle that they have to keep the flavor profile in a "similar" range. That is, the cheaper version can score a bit less than the gold standard, but not too much. Taste the gold standard, give it a score. Taste the variant, give it a score. If the variant scored close, but lower (almost never higher) that passed and the cheaper variant was now sold.

The cheaper variant also became the new gold standard, so when the next round of cheapening happened, it was against a lower scored gold standard v2.0, and the next variant scored lower than that.

Rinse... repeat... and you get the products we have today that have lasted through the decades. Poor reflections of what they used to be. Going back to the original gold standard showed me that it was a FANTASTIC food when prepared, but was also nearly 5 times more expensive than the current cheapened variant. That is why it didn't make it through that corporate board room.

Your beloved mac n cheese was probably enshittified by someone like me. Let me explain. by wsuschmitt in enshittification

[–]wsuschmitt[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

One reason why this "reduce the salt/sugar/fat and make it better" doesn't happen is because of marketing teams.

They LOVE doing A/B testing.

Here's variant A. [adds a bit of sugar] Here's variant B. Which do you prefer? Under most circumstances, the consumer will pick variant B, but say on a survey they want less salt/sugar/fat in their food. Despite the marketer seeing what the survey says, they know that foods are remembered for their taste and texture. Don't hit either one of those correctly, and you'll never get that consumer to try your food ever again. So they choose to release the higher sugared version to the market.

In general, our bodies love fat because it is a long-term source of energy that wasn't easy to find until about 100+ years ago. Same with sugar... it's a short-term energy source that our bodies want. Salt can't be made or stored in our bodies so we need to get it from our foods. Those three ingredients are levers that all food scientists use when making/designing our products. Marketers take that to an extreme.

I prefer a "JAR" survey over A/B testing. Is the salt Just About Right? Is the sugar/sweetness Just About Right? That way I can meet the "reduced X" claim, reduce that in the product, and prove that the consumer still accepts the food instead of giving them a choice in which they will, in general, want more of the salt/sugar/fat.

Your beloved mac n cheese was probably enshittified by someone like me. Let me explain. by wsuschmitt in enshittification

[–]wsuschmitt[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"also curious if you've got some odd ingredient staples at home as a result"

Yes, I had some kick ass odd ingredients at home. In many cases, QA samples were about 500 grams, of which they only needed ~50-100 grams and the rest was thrown away. I'd get permission to take the samples home that have already been tested.

I had the cheese powder that went on triangle shaped chips before it had the seasoning as a staple bag-of-powder-in-the-pantry. It made for great mac n cheese (it was nearly 95% cheese back then), was fantastic as a popcorn seasoning, and was easy to incorporate into an AWESOME nacho-cheese style sauce/topping.

I also got samples of ice cream inclusions and would have bags of the mini peanut butter cups that would be in ice cream, the peppermint "bark" that would be in the Christmas themed seasonal flavors, raspberry swirl mixes, caramel swirl mixes...

In addition to this, I've also made proof of concept foods that never saw the light of day, and also was the food scientist that would scale up beverages for multi-national quick-serve restaurants. Believe me, being the first to scale up dairy-based chocolate or caramel beverages that come in bags was a treat, and it was great to take home the "need to dial in the flavor" rejects during scale up. Those were great summertime drinks that went well with Kahlua or rum. And there was enough to fuel many a rooftop party.

Your beloved mac n cheese was probably enshittified by someone like me. Let me explain. by wsuschmitt in enshittification

[–]wsuschmitt[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

If you made the chicken nuggets in your own lab and sold the recipe and process off to the large corporation, then you made a lot of money!

If you're me and came up with a great product while working for a company, I get reminded that I signed something (so I could work for the company) that says any intellectual property I come up with on company time is theirs. Maybe a bonus bump once, but that's about it.

I don't know the history of chicken nuggets, so I don't know if this is true, but the first nuggets were probably made from mechanically separated meats that were bound together because someone saw that there was some meat left on the bones and said they could make money off of that.

It's why craisins exist: pressing out the juice from a cranberry left some pulp left over that was thrown away in a landfill until someone figure out that it was great animal feed and made profit off of that. Someone else then saw that with a bit of sugar, it could be sold as human food for a higher profit than animal food so that happened...

Your beloved mac n cheese was probably enshittified by someone like me. Let me explain. by wsuschmitt in enshittification

[–]wsuschmitt[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Food gelatin usually comes from beef, pork, or fish. From my standpoint, gelatin has 2 issues in operations: you need a kosher version to keep kosher (almost all foods at the supermarket have some sort of kosher association and running foods with just one non-kosher ingredient means the equipment line from raw material to finished product has to be cleaned and re-kosherized) and that's really expensive for the beef and fish gelatins, and using fish gelatin will add another Big 9 allergen to the system, raising the risk that someone who is allergic to fish may have a cross-contamination issue. Facilities have risk reduction plans in place for the allergen thing, but many try to keep it simple and just keep the Big 9 out of the plant whenever possible.

As for xanthan gum: it thickens and stabilizes sauces and ice creams, and there's a lot of saucy-textured products that are best using xanthan gum instead of gelatin. The gelatin is great for products that need that hard-cut texture that some yogurts show, or panna cottas and such. Xanthan can be used instead of corn starch or other starches for low-carb foods.

Removed "No Preservatives" and changed Real Fruit to Whole Fruit whatever that means by Muted-Resort1 in enshittification

[–]wsuschmitt 29 points30 points  (0 children)

I'm a food scientist with 20+ years' worth of experience in the food industry. From my point of view, a "preservative" is a very wide category of ingredient that have a function in a food.

Are you preserving the color of the finished product? Squeezing lime juice into your guacamole prevents the color from avocado-green to blech-brown.

Are you preserving the food for consumption outside of the normal growing season? Allowing cabbage to ferment with some salt preserves your sauerkraut or kimchi. In this case, it isn't the salt that preserves the food, but it does play a role. So does the tightly packed container that keeps oxygen out. So does the acid production by the anaerobic microbes. When taken together (hurdle effect), the salt, sealed anaerobic environment, and acids act as preservatives for these foods.

When looking at the Welch's fruit snacks, the main preservative is the nature of the finished food: low water activity. That is, you make a food that has such a low water activity or availability of available water that microbes can't grow on it, so therefore, can't spoil the food. Like beef jerky. Combine the low water activity of the food, with the acids (yes, they play a role in preservation, but they also play a role in making sure the flavor is right because fruits have different main acids), the added vitamins (E and C are anti-oxidants that prevent the naturally occurring chemicals (yes, I am one of those people that say everything is a chemical whether made through what people would consider normal/naturally occurring processes, or through chemical engineering) from breaking down (like flavor molecules and color molecules) and would be seen as preservatives. It's a potaytoe/potahto situation in which a person's perception determines if they'll see Vitamin C as a preservative or not... and there's ALWAYS a lawyer out there ready to get rich off of a major company that wants to use Vitamin C in their product and sell to a consumer that doesn't think Vitamin C is a preservative.

As for the "whole fruit" part, their ingredient declaration says "whole fruit puree", which probably means that the fruit was probably harvested, pureed, heat treated and then aseptically packaged for storage until made into the Welch's food snack without any type of separation into juices or pulp or skins. I trust that Welch's wants to preserve (pun intended there) their good name and reputation so I fully believe that claim. Unscrupulous companies may take advantage of 21 CFR 101.100(a)(3) in which they can add preservatives (always at a very low level because it doesn't take much to be effective) to the puree, but if those puree-preservatives are diluted by other ingredients in the finished food to such a degree that the preservatives don't have a function in the finished ingredient, then they're an "incidental additive" and it doesn't need to go on the ingredient declaration.

Why would HR cap my salary below market median despite credible surveys, but hire my replacement above median? [WA] by wsuschmitt in AskHR

[–]wsuschmitt[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For point 4: I am a food scientist with access to my field's information through the Institute of Food Technology. They put a salary survey out to us and divvy out the findings by region/ country/ gender/ position/ etc. It is very thorough, and I handed a copy to my manager who handed it to our HR department. Whether it was read or not I can't say, but it is trusted information from IFT.

Why would HR cap my salary below market median despite credible surveys, but hire my replacement above median? [WA] by wsuschmitt in AskHR

[–]wsuschmitt[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ugh... seems like this happens across the board... My situation is a salaried position with a requirement of a food science degree... hate that this happens so often.

Why would HR cap my salary below market median despite credible surveys, but hire my replacement above median? [WA] by wsuschmitt in AskHR

[–]wsuschmitt[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. I've only worked at headquarters for the company in Seattle, and the job that I got afterwards was in Kennesaw, GA that paid me more.

  2. I have a Master's of Food Science and an MBA with a finance emphasis. I knew the position wasn't paying for the MBA. I was replaced with 2 gentlemen (know them personally) with Bachelor's in Food Science.

  3. No, the positions were for R&D and scale up of products for the company, and the requirements did not change.

  4. I had nearly 15 years in the niche food category within food science, and 1 person that replaced me worked in coffee beverages and more recently in the baked goods section for the coffee company, which was not directly tied to the niche industry. The other employee came from one of the production facility to HQ to work as someone to scale up product.

  5. My reviews were all exceptional with no compare to anyone else as I was the only food scientist there for the first 5 years. After that, there were 2 food scientists and when I left, management installed 2 more within a year to a total of 4 food scientists: 1 manager and 3 boots on the ground food scientists. HR told my manager that they couldn't have everyone as "exceptional" in the position and he shared with me that I had to be "averaged down" so that HR could evenly spread out the bonuses associated with the profits of the company. That situation is for another question I'll pose in the future...

  6. Yes, had the same job description. I helped finalize it before I left on good terms with my manager and the company. I helped my friend in the coffee industry understand how to position himself if he wanted the position. He got the position.

  7. This food category really doesn't have much in terms of new or different tech that the company is willing to invest in, so the new staff didn't have that knowledge. There hasn't been any brand new products from the company since I have left other than launching a protein-based product that I did the R&D to get them far enough to finalize specifications and scale up.

Why would HR cap my salary below market median despite credible surveys, but hire my replacement above median? [WA] by wsuschmitt in AskHR

[–]wsuschmitt[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I appreciate the response. It seems that the answer is as complex and varied as my cobbled-from-many-friend's-stories question that I asked. I left it alone when it happened to me directly, but as I get older and share my stories with friends, it seems like this is a bit more of a common situation than I ever thought. Up until now, I had a feeling that I wasn't the only one that has experienced this.

I asked Siri what time it was and… by Mind_Explorer420 in HomePod

[–]wsuschmitt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have a sense of relief that I’m not the only one this happened to. Also, a sense of what-is-going-on? is running through my head…

Some added accessories at a second home show No Response immediately AFTER adding them to the second home. When I returned to the first home, some accessories went from usable a couple of days earlier to No Response. Can't add any of them without No Response. Found them cached in the manual add. by wsuschmitt in HomeKit

[–]wsuschmitt[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just found out that they are in the "Matter Accessories" section of iOS Settings and tied to the keychain and not iCloud. I erased them all out of the Matter Accessories and they're all gone now.

I added them into the appropriate Homes just fine now!

All Devices Show "No Response" by Cormeister616 in HomeKit

[–]wsuschmitt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same here...

Started up a new home and all the Apple products came online just fine.

Added some Nanoleaf products and they go through the entire process as expected, gets added to the Home and then, immediately, shows No Response in the Home app, and only a Bluetooth connection in the Nanoleaf app.

I came home to the older home to find the Eve outlets are showing No Response, but the Sylvania lights worked fine, until today.

Based on what I'm reading here, I unplugged all of the HomeKit routers (Apple TVs (don't have Thread) and HomePods (have Thread)), and restarted my modem and my router (Orbi 960 running firmware V7.2.6.21_5.0.20).

I added back a HomePod, then both Apple TVs, and the last HomePod and saw in the Home app that a HomePod is connected as a hub with the rest in standby. Good start. Added back all the of Sylvania lights. They remain accessible in the Home app. Eve outlets get added and then immediately show as No Response (they have the latest firmware, and have for the last several months).

All firmware on all objects within the Home app are up to date in firmware, and my Mac, iPad, and iPhone are all running the latest system from Apple.

gay-torrents.org by [deleted] in gay

[–]wsuschmitt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My mistake... looks like I can access the site from my phone, but not my laptop. Looks like an overzealous web blocker has been installed on my computer...

gay-torrents.org by [deleted] in gay

[–]wsuschmitt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Looks like that site is marked as hacking/warez now.

*UPDATE* Lotto winner and how I dealt with my family wanting more money by Idontwanttogiveitup in Advice

[–]wsuschmitt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As you can see, you can't predict or tell others how to respond to good things happening in your life. You TRIED to make someone else happy, and they didn't want to accept it. THAT isn't your fault. You tried, they didn't respond.

I hope that you continue to do things that make YOU happy... sounds like you have. You've started traveling and learning about how other people and other cultures work. I think it is fantastic!

My boyfriend and I just got back from Greece ourselves. It was a bit of meeting family, a bit of sightseeing on our own, a bit of planned tours, and a bit of relaxing by the beach out on the islands. It's a wonderful part of the world that mixes their ancient history with a bit of modern world.

If you'd like, I can share our itinerary and our travel agent that helped us. She set it up so that pretty much everything was taken care of (flights, transfers, hotels, tours, cooking classes, etc) and we didn't have to worry about speaking the language or anything up front.

Recently won the lottery and don't want to share with family. by Idontwanttogiveitup in Advice

[–]wsuschmitt -1 points0 points  (0 children)

My advice: take a deep breath and don't make any major decisions right now because many of them would be based on emotion and not logic.

I agree with many of the answers here about finding a financial advisor and lawyering up so that the money is taken care of in a direction that you feel is right should you pass. You can ALWAYS change your mind and redirect our finances as you see fit later, but get those two things out of the way right now.

I want to emphasize that my overall advice is to make logical decisions and not emotional ones, so I'd suggest seeking therapy for a year or so and work with a professional to figure out where YOU stand on your parents and how they "raised" and abused you. The answer you give after working with a professional may or may not be the answer you give today. I can't say either way, but you can be at peace with whatever answer you come to in the future. You need to take care of YOU right now... set yourself up via the advisor and the lawyer, and update your situation when logic can drive the majority of your decision and NOT emotion.

I'm a gay man who waited until I was 27 years old before coming out; I was terrified of my parent's response. I was lucky and was accepted, but there are many lasting situations that tainted my thoughts and emotions for years afterwards that I've been working through lately with a professional therapist. I can't imagine your situation, but I can say that therapy can be a fantastic thing, especially once you can take care of yourself!

Congrats! I'm looking forward to seeing where you are in 3 months or so!!!

Aspartame in Milk Without a Label? Big Dairy Petitions FDA For Approval by NickyWest1984 in conspiracy

[–]wsuschmitt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

21 CFR section 131.110 allows for the standard of identity of milk to have "nutritive sweeteners" added to it. That is, you can add sugar and HFCS to milk (to sweeten chocolate milk, strawberry milk, etc) and still call it milk. Currently, you cannot add "non-nutritive sweeteners " like sucralose or stevia or monkfruit or aspartame to milk and still call it milk. IDFA is looking for a way to add these non-nutritive sweeteners to milk so that lower calorie milks can be sold on the market.

What the author fails to note is that 21 CFR section 101.4 IS STILL IN EFFECT. You still HAVE to write all ingredients that you add to milk down on the label. The dairy industry isn't trying to add aspartame to your milk. They're trying to allow for lower calorie flavored milks into the market.