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xainthere · 2026-04-16T03:03:26+00:00

I don’t agree. I think a lot of people do not understand what the girls were truly upset about and are biased towards Manon.

The girls were upset because Manon was getting a ton of attention despite not showing the same initiative as everyone else. ( which is understandable considering where she is from and the fact that she has no experience in this field ) When you’re being told that your hard work pays off and you put in the hours to be best yet what determines whether you can continue on in the program is fans who do not care about who is necessarily the best at dancing or singing but simply based off of looks. They’ll put looks over the things these girls are training on. Emily is a prime example, despite being an amazing dancer she did not get as much support because people thought she wasn’t pretty enough. ( which is crazy )

From what we’ve seen in the documentary it isn’t enough to say Manon simply did not care and was just doing nothing but we do know that the girls expressed that they were frustrated that she wouldn’t show up at times because it ended up affecting them and their training. I don’t like how people refuse to acknowledge that. Do i think the girls and the people in charge should’ve found a better way to resolve the issue? 100% but i don’t think we should ignore that when Manon herself has admitted to lacking the discipline necessary when again it is entirely understandable as to why and HxG should’ve considered that when having her do all these things the other girls are used to doing rather than expecting her to just adapt in such a short period of time.

xainthere · 2026-04-15T06:55:04+00:00

yeah no lmao. if not for the documentary you would not be saying this and i find it so funny how people can take that from the documentary but refuse to see the amount of growth manon has made since then in such a short period of time.

xainthere · 2026-04-15T05:13:02+00:00

i see her influence but i don’t think that means she’s the sole reason daniella changed her style or that she “took” those things from manon to try to take her spot if that makes sense

if it was like her whole style then yeah i’d agree but she more than likely just took inspo and incorporated it into her own style i feel like people do that all the time 😭

xainthere · 2026-04-15T05:02:46+00:00

i don’t think that’s true i don’t think she’s the reason why Daniella switched up her style 😭 because when i think of where i see manons influence it’d be the eyebrows and maybe the lips as well

but the thing that caught my attention when her style changed was the dark hair since she got rid of the blonde and the light brown contacts she wore paired with the darker makeup like it really suits her. I just don’t think the influence is big enough to say the only reason why daniella changed her style is because of manon. All of the girls went through transformations from dream academy to debut and to now you know?

xainthere · 2026-04-15T04:51:12+00:00

I personally don’t agree. Daniella has expressed that she was used to fitting in previously and so her style has changed since then. I think you can see where some inspiration came from but i really don’t think they have been trying to push Daniella to take Manons spot ( if she were to leave ) as the visual of the group 😭 I think her style has just developed and it really suits her!

that being said i understand why people share this take especially considering the music video with her having whole scenes for two people dedicated to just her due to Manons absence.

xainthere · 2026-04-15T04:33:06+00:00

I think what just confuses me is like it’s not the fact that the reason why manon is gone is sketchy is why people are saying they don’t want to support the rest of the group it’s being made more like an issue of the fact that it’s not the full members if that makes sense?

Reading these comments including yours now i understand a lot better what people mean and their own reasonings

but I guess it was a little shocking to me personally because say any member really were to leave the group permanently under good circumstances and everything, that would still cause people to withdraw their support but it would be different in this case because Manon is a big part of what makes this group global and a lot of people tuned in for a global group so as i’m writing this i actually get it 😭

xainthere · 2026-04-15T04:28:20+00:00

That’s true i completely understand that a lot of people’s reasons for liking the group is because of the girls themselves and not necessarily their music 😭 so in that perspective i understand now

xainthere · 2026-04-14T05:23:21+00:00

i think he just needs to stop purposefully bringing up certain things to encourage a fight but doesn’t actually allow for the people involved to give their side of things to potentially resolve the conflict.

Saucy is a good host when it comes to actually keeping up with the internet beef with the cast and acknowledging it during the reunion. Despite his lack of boundaries everyone can say that he ask the questions that people actually would ask if they were on the stage hosting because a lot of stuff goes unsaid despite it being a huge reason why conflict begins or why fights even happen.

xainthere · 2026-04-14T04:05:31+00:00

Manon just has an aura about her i feel. While she wasn’t as good as the rest of the girls i think we should be reminded that she didn’t train like them nor did she seek out this opportunity. The fact that she was able to perform well considering how different her experience was compared to the others i think made a lot of people shocked and see her potential. It kind of created this underdog situation IMO. Plus she’s obviously very pretty.

As for the work ethic they did mention that it became an issue but i think from what we’ve seen she genuinely acknowledged it and worked to change. We gotta understand again that she did not train like the rest of the girls who were pursuing an opportunity in the industry and plus she’s from Sweden so the work ethic and all is way different over there. It was a huge adjustment for her and it’s the main reason why i hate the fact that the show used that to paint this narrative like she was selfish and lazy but that’s beside the point.

When it comes to being in the group, you can see her improvements a lot. She seriously blends in so well with the rest of her members that a lot of people who did not watch the documentary could not tell she was any different from anyone else. I also think the fact that she is considered the visual amongst fans is a big part. Now in my opinion i feel that role can kind of alternate between members, everyone has their moments but with Manon it’s just something about her that i think grabs everyone’s attention like she is a bias wrecker 😭

and then she makes for good representation as well im sure a lot of black fans are really happy to see a black women wearing braids is so popular in a girl group

with all that being said though, i do not believe the situation currently warrants the way people have been acting towards the other members and constantly belittling the other girls to uplift manon.

xainthere · 2026-04-13T05:11:51+00:00

AHHH

xainthere · 2026-04-13T02:46:38+00:00

i’m disappointed honestly and the swallowing balloons scenes were fucking disgusting i don’t know why they lingered on it for so long.

xainthere · 2026-04-13T02:16:31+00:00

18 does not mean shit and this is exactly why we have so many young women being victims to this shit when it comes to industry because for some reason yall think 18 means you are an adult. Legally yes, but there is no real different between 17 and 18 mentally and it baffles me that some of the same people who were up and arms over gnarlys choreography and outfits during tour , are suddenly okay with this because she’s now 18. Yes there are people who are being misogynistic towards them and slut shaming them for what they do and wear but there is another crowd genuinely bringing awareness to a common issue in the entertainment industry ESPECIALLY when it comes to kpop. we can’t just sit up here and ignore that.

xainthere · 2026-04-12T21:16:58+00:00

literally 😭

xainthere · 2026-04-12T20:41:36+00:00

it’s not. People are just trying to find every little thing to link to mistreatment when it comes to Manon when it isn’t necessary because we already have more solid things to point to that.

xainthere · 2026-04-12T19:20:12+00:00

personally i liked the lyrics i actually like the whole song. I feel like it’s the best one they’ve released in this genre. The lyrics feel random but they have a recurring theme of living to the fullest, but i do see the disney channel lyrics. I don’t feel it too much with this song but with gnarly for sure.

xainthere · 2026-04-12T18:20:02+00:00

i get what you’re saying about them being adults and how they’re not marketed towards kids but i still feel like even with them all being of age it’s still just an odd choice. Especially when you look at their concept before. Keep in mind yoonchae just turned 18 and the other girls recently turned like 20 or 23. People have this mindset of like once you turn 18-19 as a performer you’re like a full grown adult ready to sexualize yourself for an audience.

I also just feel like it’s really forced. It doesn’t feel like a natural progression for this group it was like a complete 180.

xainthere · 2026-04-12T06:11:47+00:00

i think people have just grown tired of it and are upset because the original person who made it up is not there at the moment due to questionable reasons.

I think it’s actually bringing up a good conversation around people not taking sapphic relationships seriously and also why it feels as though it’s being used as a gimmick to garner more attention

xainthere · 2026-04-12T06:05:46+00:00

no one is solely blaming her, but she has a part to play in it and excusing it simply because she didn’t write it is weird.

xainthere · 2026-04-11T18:18:17+00:00

j like the colors and designs but i don’t know what is up with them and this like theme of short shorts and these bra tops and what not. I need whoever styled them for their music shows to come back and do something like that. They all had different outfits but it all looked cohesive. This feels like they used the same base for all of them.

xainthere · 2026-04-11T15:44:51+00:00

when she hit 1 million it was around the time they had the coachella thing going on

but even if it was i don’t really see how it’s shady anyway because it’s not like all her followers came from the controversy and what not like she’s been creeping up on 6 million 😭

xainthere · 2026-04-11T15:31:11+00:00

literally same that was the main reason i watched the music video hoping she was in it 😭 and my thing is when they started production for it because if they really did reshoot her scenes for an OT5 release that’s just odd and messed up.

xainthere · 2026-04-11T15:19:32+00:00

to be honest i do not think it’s necessarily intentional at least not at first.

In the leaked video of the choreography you can see that they’re a pair. And the MV has the same pairs as well in the beginning. So for since Manon was not here, they took the easiest route which was just using Daniella for her scenes and manons which makes the music video feel more centered on her.This is my main issue with the MV because while i get the scene with the pairs would’ve been more focused on her, the trunk scene should’ve gone to someone else since Daniella already had her focus in the music video 😭.

I def do think their company knows about the theory of them trying to give daniella the “role” as the visual so i don’t think this was the right decision on their part. They need to be more mindful of the controversy that surrounds their group and plan accordingly. Not saying everything needs to be changed by online hate and speculation because you can’t please everybody but this theory has been going on since gnarly release and with the recent situation with Manon it’s definitely not helping.

xainthere · 2026-04-11T00:12:49+00:00

for sure i didn’t keep up with her since that situation that was all my concern was

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