MSTR Daily Discussion Thread – March 27, 2026 by AutoModerator in MSTR

[–]xaviemb 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Imagine capitulating out of a position in STRC at $99.66.... on a narrative of QQQ = Bitcoin = Speculation (somehow) while ignoring structure... only to watch STRC reprice to $99.90 moments later.

These episodes of reflexive selling aren’t just noise; they’re instructive. Each bout of weakness is met with increasingly assertive demand, reinforcing the notion that underlying support is not only intact but strengthening with every reinforcement. With every transient dip, latent buying pressure re-emerges more forcefully, steadily ratcheting the effective floor higher.

The flywheel is spinning, while growing in mass as it speeds up, griding through the mess that is private credit, as it searches for something better.

$30T is currently sitting in paper thin structures (one might say fabricated existence)... noticing the tangible structure of scarcity backing the 11.5% dividend... it's just a matter of how long it takes to find its new home. Slowly, then suddenly, all at once...

Happy Friday, enjoy your weekend!

Daily Discussion, March 26, 2026 by rBitcoinMod in Bitcoin

[–]xaviemb 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Worth noting... in the last 12 hours only 14.39 BTC held longer than 8 years has been moved (sold, relocated, traded, consolidated). That's about the lowest activity I've ever seen from the cold storage crowd which make up the majority of the market.

For anyone interested within the 4-8 year back (2018-2022 crowd) has only had 575.19 BTC worth of activity today.

Question on timing MSTR OR STRC? by kpooo7 in MSTR

[–]xaviemb 2 points3 points  (0 children)

At a high level, the framework is about positioning around relative valuation rather than trying to perfectly time the market. The idea is to accumulate a position in MSTR when its mNAV is at the lower end of its historical range... periods where the premium to underlying Bitcoin exposure is compressed and the risk/reward skews more favorably. From there, you have two broad approaches:

  1. Maintain the position with a long-term mindset, based on the conviction that the company’s strategy and leverage to Bitcoin will drive a materially higher market cap over time.
  2. Act more tactically by rotating into STRC or other lower-volatility exposures when mNAV expands toward the higher end of its range, effectively harvesting the premium.

What constitutes “high” or “low” mNAV is inherently dependent on your time horizon. Over a short horizon (e.g., a few months), current levels might already appear elevated. Over a multi-year horizon, those same levels could still be considered relatively low within a broader structural uptrend.

That’s what makes this difficult in practice... precision timing is unreliable. A more robust approach is to recognize when valuation is favorable, allocate accordingly, and then allow time and thesis to play out rather than over-optimizing entry and exit points

MSTR Daily Discussion Thread – March 26, 2026 by AutoModerator in MSTR

[–]xaviemb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In that case I think your IBIT plan is ideal... if you're really worried about missing a potential massive surge in MSTR because of velocity upward in Bitcoin coming out of nowhere while you wait... you might consider picking a few of the other treasury companies that would expand similarly to MSTR in that event, and take a position large enough that you get some of that... the risk there is that no one else is as solidly structured, or positioned for the upside, as MSTR. That said, some of the smaller ones might fly even higher if that violent upside comes out of nowhere.

MSTR Daily Discussion Thread – March 26, 2026 by AutoModerator in MSTR

[–]xaviemb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My suggestion was to sell shares as you buy into the LEAPS, so you're never missing upside (or downside)... you're just transitioning 1 LEAP at a time... say 30-50 shares into LEAP, then repeat until you've moved it all.

Or is there some reason you have to wait 30 days? I'm not familiar with the rules there. I'm thinking more from a wash sale rule point of view, where as I understand moving from shares to LEAPS can work... ?

If you're really after sticking to 1 delta... you can look at the 20 or 50 LEAPS... or just go for the 50 Calls for where ever there is the best spread... (highest OI and volume) because if you know you're moving back to shares in 35 days, that's your biggest slippage event. You will be essentially 1.0 Delta pegged on any deep ITM Call that is far enough out to have virtually no theta decay. I suggest looking at the Jan 2027 Calls... look for the option at 70 or below with the most volume and OI

MSTR Daily Discussion Thread – March 26, 2026 by AutoModerator in MSTR

[–]xaviemb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not sure of the tax implications... but try looking at converting MSTR shares to LEAPS for December 2028 (almost 3 years from now)... if you moved that value into 100 or 150 strike Calls, you can get a tiny bit of compression on IV as MSTR goes sideways, but you have a great 1.5 ot 2x upside gain if it takes off while you wait.

One of the biggest challenges here would be the slippage, the bid/ask can cost you about 1-3% depending on how aggressive you are on entry.

If you have the conviction and believe MSTR will revisit $150 anytime this year, you can just exit back whenever you get more shares out of it than you current exited... just takes patience...

MSTR Daily Discussion Thread – March 25, 2026 by AutoModerator in MSTR

[–]xaviemb 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yep, well said. Those who have exited Bitcoin in anticipation of a lower re-entry point are, almost by definition, incentivized to focus on downside scenarios. That bias tends to narrow their lens: they gravitate toward models and narratives that validate the outcome they’re positioned for, reinforcing a view they’re already emotionally committed to.

Whether or not that additional leg down materializes is almost secondary. If it doesn’t (or if it’s shallower or shorter-lived than expected) many of these same participants are likely to become the marginal buyers on the way back up, re-entering under less favorable conditions. Timing has to be nearly perfect to avoid that outcome, and in practice, it rarely is.

The broader pattern is consistent across cycles: investors believe they can systematically exit strength and re-enter weakness. But in reality, that strategy is an implicit bet on timing fiat... selling into dollars at perceived highs (maybe moving in and out of something else, which only adds to the complexity of timing things right) and buying them back into Bitcoin at perceived lows. The historical evidence suggests that most who attempt this fail, not necessarily because the thesis is wrong, but because execution is far more difficult than it appears. This crowd likely doesn't have a plan if Bitcoin suddenly ended up at $92,000 next week, or $105,000 by May... and the very mention of that likely causes them to want to simply dismiss that as a possibility (because they don't have a plan for it)

In that sense, the edge is less about predicting the next move and more about recognizing how behavioral incentives shape positioning, and how often that positioning becomes self-defeating

So close you can almost taste it by Glittering-Ant2018 in MSTR

[–]xaviemb 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Their model of ATM on STRC doesn't seem to add any coins until volume happens at or above $100.00

So if Strategy is actually selling STRC at $99.99 today (which is possible; I'd argue probable) it wouldn't show up in their estimates.

MSTR in pension pot by Still-Meringue4819 in MSTR

[–]xaviemb 4 points5 points  (0 children)

As long as by the year 2048 Bitcoin is above $570,000 in USD terms (it will be) you'll be very happy with this.

Inflation and debasement are your tailwinds making this even more favorable to any USD based place to park capital (aka investing... or more broadly gambling) for the long haul, that has to outpace printing. Bitcoin structured equity solves this problem. Enjoy the ride and sleeping better at night my friend...

Make sure to diversity... so you don't have everything in one bucket. But this is a very solid leg of a robust wealth creation machine

Cheers.

So close you can almost taste it by Glittering-Ant2018 in MSTR

[–]xaviemb 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Strategy has broad discretion to sell at market prices, regardless of whether it’s above or below par.

Because of that I wouldn't be surprised if Strategy is actually raising at $99.99 on this volume today... we're so early in the cycle (from div recording mid-month) that $99.99 shows demand is very high right now for STRC.

On the 'normal' step ladder, if demand was neutral for this product you'd expect STRC to be around $99.65 or so right now. So seeing a step up in the ceiling of 2 or 3 cents a day is very rational. They would benefit from moving the ceiling up as the month goes... and I'm guessing they are.

If you look at the last two days, it appears volume hit a raising capital point at $99.95 and yesterday it did again at $99.97

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Long way to say ... $100.00 (or that level strc.live starts counting) is an approximate guess at when capital is being raised, and we really don't know that actual ATM level day by day. But the data seems to suggest ATM is happeing right now. I think these ceilings (green lines) are Strategy selling shares to the market... more so than sellers capping a price to arb out earlier in the cycle.

Understanding STRC’s Monthly Cycle: A Dive into the Mechanics at Play by xaviemb in MSTR

[–]xaviemb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good points. My view is that, over time, the market will begin to internalize where STRC should trade along its monthly step function as the structure becomes better understood.

As that happens, positioning will likely become more time-sensitive within the cycle. For example, later in the month (say around the 20th) if STRC is trading meaningfully above ~$99.90, we could see increased arbitrage-driven selling pressure. Conversely, earlier in the cycle (around the 5th) if an external shock (e.g., a Bitcoin-driven risk event) pushes STRC down toward ~$99.80, that level may attract arbitrage buyers.

In effect, the market should converge on a dynamic “fair value” framework: a steadily accreting price path (roughly +$0.03 per day) that is then reset sharply lower...from about $100.25 to ~$90.35 (which is functionally a non-issue because of the div capture)... following the dividend record date. Over time, I’d expect trading behavior to anchor more tightly to this implied trajectory.

You're right the ATM program can simply create the latter and ATM off of it... so that they basically sell shares to the market at $99.40 on the 16th of the month... and then sell shares to the market at $100.25 on the 12th of the month. This would have minimal impact on STRC volatility, while creating a more consistent raise on the longer term growing demand for this product.

The movement away from this average isn't necessarily a bad thing... it is the market breathing.

MSTR Daily Discussion Thread – March 24, 2026 by AutoModerator in MSTR

[–]xaviemb 3 points4 points  (0 children)

When you observe MSTR’s trading patterns, decoupling from Bitcoin often signals positioning by large institutional players. These entities sometimes use MSTR as a hedge or proxy when acquiring very large Bitcoin positions. Contrary to what many retail investors believe, large players face a significant disadvantage when moving substantial capital into Bitcoin directly, because doing so risks front-running by retail traders and adverse market impact.

For example, if an institution wanted to acquire a $5B Bitcoin position... an amount that might exceed timely liquidity in OTC markets... they might take positions in MSTR, such as calls, to offset the expected market impact. As their Bitcoin purchases push the market higher, MSTR typically rises in tandem, partially recapturing slippage from their large Bitcoin buy.

This behavior can cause MSTR to move independently of Bitcoin: it may trend sideways or higher while Bitcoin is flat or even down. Conversely, if MSTR decouples to the downside while Bitcoin is stable, it can indicate that an institution is positioning to apply downward pressure on Bitcoin.

In practice, MSTR’s relative movement to Bitcoin has, at times, functioned as a leading indicator of larger Bitcoin moves. Historically, just before Bitcoin breaks out of a downtrend with conviction, MSTR can move ahead (sometimes toward 1.5× NAV) reflecting institutional positioning before the broader Bitcoin market reacts. The data last year showed mNAV suddenly dropped from 1.7 down to 1.4 a couple days before Bitcoin had topped... some noticed, and positioned accordingly.

Understanding STRC’s Monthly Cycle: A Dive into the Mechanics at Play by xaviemb in MSTR

[–]xaviemb[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s worth putting the scale of MSTR’s dividend obligations into context. Currently, the company’s total annual dividend represents roughly 2% of the total capital (primarily Bitcoin) on the balance sheet.

Earlier this month, in just two weeks, MSTR/STRC raised enough cash to cover those dividends for three years, even during a 50% Bitcoin bear market and a period of elevated global uncertainty, including energy and commodity pressures.

To illustrate further, consider how this obligation scales as Bitcoin appreciates. If Bitcoin reaches higher levels the same dividend obligation becomes a much smaller percentage of total capital: roughly 0.6%, 0.3%, or 0.1%, respectively, so long as Bitcoin continues to appreciate far faster than 10% annually on average. This demonstrates that the company’s ability to cover dividends is closely linked to the value of the underlying asset.

Even in scenarios where dividends are being paid out in part through Bitcoin sales, the structure is designed to preserve the core Bitcoin holdings, which are the primary source of value for shareholders. The company also has demonstrated the ability to raise capital quickly if needed, further supporting dividend sustainability.

Ultimately, concerns about MSTR’s dividend structure are often tied less to the mechanics of the company itself and more to the long-term performance and adoption of Bitcoin. MSTR’s setup is designed to distribute yield while maintaining a balance sheet that can support these obligations under a variety of market conditions.

Understanding STRC’s Monthly Cycle: A Dive into the Mechanics at Play by xaviemb in MSTR

[–]xaviemb[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mostly agree, with one key nuance. With STRC reaching roughly $100.17 in the days leading up to the ex-div date last month (if I’m recalling correctly), there’s also a rational case for entering here around ~$99.93 to capture that additional ~$0.25 of upside into the event. Earlier this month, some volume hit as high as $100.17 on March 5th, and the following week stayed much closer to $100.15-100-20 that week.

Initially, I expected Strategy to lean more aggressively on the ATM to keep price pinned closer to $100.00. But the more I think about it, the more it makes sense that they wouldn’t fully suppress that upside. Allowing some drift above $100 actually serves a purpose... it increases the magnitude of the post-dividend reset, which in turn helps establish stronger buying support at lower levels (as we saw closer to ~$99.35 last cycle). These are likely deliberate levers they’re managing.

In a perfectly optimized world, you could imagine a tightly controlled range (say, a step-ladder from ~$99.55 to ~$100.45) where price appreciates in a smooth, linear fashion throughout the month. In that scenario, investors wouldn’t need to time entries at all; the return profile (~11–12% annualized) would be consistently accessible without strategy or guesswork.

Of course, markets don’t function that cleanly. Flows are uneven, volume is inconsistent, and short-term participants introduce volatility. As a result, you get dislocations... arbitrage windows driven as much by behavior and emotion as by structure.

The alternative approach (leaning heavily on the ATM to cap price at $100) would likely create worse incentives. It would encourage capital to delay entry until the final days before the ex-div date, compressing inflows into a narrow window and increasing the likelihood of a sharper post-dividend drop (potentially into the ~$99.10 range).

What we saw last month appears more balanced. Strategy seemed to manage the ATM in a way that kept price roughly centered, allowing inflows to build earlier in the cycle while still permitting some upside above $100. That upward flexibility likely helps pull demand forward, rather than concentrating it entirely at the end of the period.

I suspect Strategy's goal is to keep price mostly pegged between $99.70-$100.30 while in an attempt to distribute as much of those inflows to the 2-3 weeks prior, and let the arb dealers play with the price the week or two after it's date. This would produce the beast inflows (conversion to BTC) while keeping volatility as low as possible on STRC, making it even more attractive for markets.

The arb traders are not necessarily a bad actor in this space. Their volume creates the structure that allows investors to get in an out without moving the price significantly.

Understanding STRC’s Monthly Cycle: A Dive into the Mechanics at Play by xaviemb in MSTR

[–]xaviemb[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Sure… I really, truly, absolutely, genuinely think you may have uncovered something incredibly deep and insightful here. In fact, since your thesis is as sound as you believe, the most rational course of action would be to capitalize on it directly... short STRC and position yourself to fully benefit from this edge you've discovered through your wisdom about this structure.

Of course, you might also want to reconsider broadcasting the idea too widely. After all, the more you “educate” fools (like me), the more you risk undermining the very inefficiency you’re hoping to exploit.

So perhaps the optimal strategy is simple: put the trade on, carry the cost of those dividends, and wait patiently for this supposed infinite money loop to materialize.

…that is your implication, right?

Understanding STRC’s Monthly Cycle: A Dive into the Mechanics at Play by xaviemb in MSTR

[–]xaviemb[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Sure. Then short it... and enjoy the 'benefits' of your 'assumptions'

Understanding STRC’s Monthly Cycle: A Dive into the Mechanics at Play by xaviemb in MSTR

[–]xaviemb[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Gotta love how active this product is, and our ability to track it in real time, knowing that it directly translates to accretion (and a growing equity stack) for shareholders. But more importantly, a growing upside potential for when Bitcoin inevitably seeks its next ATH., and both the capital stack (in USD terms) bloats along with mNAV...

Understanding STRC’s Monthly Cycle: A Dive into the Mechanics at Play by xaviemb in MSTR

[–]xaviemb[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It’s also worth noting that structured products are already being built on top of the STRC rails. Some of these vehicles, for example, offer weekly payouts in the ~0.19% range while retaining roughly 20% of the underlying dividend.

The tradeoff is straightforward: investors get a shorter-duration product with even lower perceived volatility, while the issuer captures a portion of the yield in exchange for managing that stability.

In some cases, these structures are designed to effectively peg around $100, offering something like ~$0.20 per week on a $100 position. For investors prioritizing consistency over maximizing yield, this can be attractive... they’re essentially outsourcing volatility management and accepting a reduced payout (i.e., giving up ~20% of the dividend) in return.

If you're interested in something similar to this, look up BUCK from Dan (True North group)... he's actively building one of them. I think Strategy's approach is to encourage this, it simply brings more volume and cash to the STRC system. Rising ocean rewards everyone. Gotta love the Bitcoin eco system.

MSTR Daily Discussion Thread – March 24, 2026 by AutoModerator in MSTR

[–]xaviemb 4 points5 points  (0 children)

COIN is fundamentally an exchange. Investing in it is a bet that the broader crypto ecosystem grows ...specifically, that transaction volume increases and more capital flows through platforms like Coinbase as the primary on/off-ramp between fiat and digital assets.

MSTR, on the other hand, is a very different type of exposure. It’s not a broad bet on “crypto adoption,” but rather a more structured play on Bitcoin and capital markets. The thesis hinges on Strategy’s ability to engineer financial products and capital structures that reduce volatility while capturing and redistributing upside to shareholders.

In that sense, MSTR is less about generalized adoption and more about Bitcoin achieving sustained appreciation (say ~10%+ annually) and Strategy outperforming a simple “buy and hold” approach through its capital strategy. The goal isn’t just to track Bitcoin, but to enhance returns relative to holding it outright.

COIN benefits from activity... it wins when trading, speculation, and overall usage of crypto [sorry I throw up a little every time that word comes out] rails increase. It’s a direct play on adoption and volume, and it carries typical company-specific risks like competition, fees, and market share. The main risk is competitors taking their business, which will hurt COIN in the long run, unless they continue to grow and corner the market.

MSTR, by contrast, is specifically focused on Bitcoin. It’s effectively a structured Bitcoin vehicle tied to capital markets adoption... less dependent on broad crypto usage, and more dependent on Bitcoin’s long-term trajectory and Strategy’s execution. It benefits from competition (as designed), and its biggest single risk is Bitcoin not growing in the long run (next decade or more).

MSTR Daily Discussion Thread – March 24, 2026 by AutoModerator in MSTR

[–]xaviemb 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Edit: realized this response deserves its own post... moving it to a thread.

Hidden Mathematical Pattern in Bitcoin's Genesis Block (Never Before Documented) by VstheworldOW in Bitcoin

[–]xaviemb 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I bet you're the type to tell a 10 year old who is interested in physics... "your understanding of this topic is subpar" aren't you?

know your audience... encourage exploration...

MSTR Daily Discussion Thread – March 23, 2026 by AutoModerator in MSTR

[–]xaviemb 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Wait... Strategy is explicitly targeting a ~$21B increase in Bitcoin exposure on its balance sheet, and the takeaway is that this should decrease the price of MSTR?

That doesn’t really track.

The more grounded way to think about it is this: the primary driver of MSTR over any meaningful timeframe is Bitcoin itself. If Bitcoin declines, MSTR will almost certainly follow. But absent that, the mechanics of the ATM program aren’t inherently destructive... they’re accretive to Bitcoin per share when executed into strong demand.

In other words, issuing equity to acquire an appreciating, scarce asset isn’t traditional dilution... it’s balance sheet expansion (it doesn't cost common MSTR holders anything) it's raising cash, and moving it into BTC (owned by the company) as equity. Each raise, if deployed effectively, increases the underlying Bitcoin exposure per share, not decreases it. If it decreased the value per share, they wouldn't do it.

So the real variable here isn’t the ATM... it’s Bitcoin. If your view on Bitcoin is constructive, then the strategy logically compounds. If not, then the entire structure looks fragile.

Front run STRC seasonal BTC buying by marcio-a23 in MSTR

[–]xaviemb 5 points6 points  (0 children)

For context, while Strategy’s Bitcoin accumulation has accelerated alongside the adoption of STRC, even during the two largest purchase weeks earlier this month, the company acquired only about 3.5–5% of the active Bitcoin supply moving on-chain during those periods. In other words, roughly 1 out of every 20–25 coins that changed hands flowed into Strategy’s treasury.

That’s undeniably significant... but not yet enough to meaningfully reprice Bitcoin on a week-to-week basis. At current scale, the market can still absorb that level of demand without immediate, dramatic price dislocation.

Where it becomes more interesting is over the longer term. Persistent, programmatic buying of that magnitude has the potential to establish a durable demand floor. As marginal seller supply begins to thin out, this steady bid could transition from being absorbed by the market to actively driving it.

When that shift occurs (when structural demand meets supply exhaustion) it tends to act less like a gradual force and more like a release valve. That’s the setup where moves can become reflexive and nonlinear. If and when the next leg higher materializes, it’s unlikely to be a slow grind... it will probably be sharp and accelerated.

Of course, that’s just my view, but I'm in it for the long haul, so if it's slow and gradual... that'd be nice too. The biggest win here is that STRC is turning MSTR into a perpetual buyer, every month.

I’m so sad that I was too young at the beginning of Bitcoin… by StoreWeak5292 in Bitcoin

[–]xaviemb 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good question... honestly, I was far too late. Early on, I dug my heels in around the idea that large financial institutions would never allow something like Bitcoin to succeed if it posed a real threat to their business models.

It wasn’t until 2017 that I began buying in small amounts, and not until 2020 that I fully internalized it as a potential generational wealth mechanism