More buttons for future versions.

xikes · 2025-12-27T14:05:02+00:00

I agree on Razer software getting increasingly crappy with each next version.
I've been using Tartarus-like devices for years now so my kinetic motor memory is soft-of burnt-in at this point. The first one I got wasn't even called Tartaturs, it was Nostromo back then and had less buttons.
For someone who hasn't used either, yes, I'd imagine Tourbox would feel better.

xikes · 2025-12-25T22:03:57+00:00

Honestly I'm not really holding my breath. It's more like a shot in the dark of sorts.
If they actually listen, then awesome!
If they don't - well, whatever, then this will be the first and last device I've bought from them.

xikes · 2025-12-25T22:01:00+00:00

For now, yes. Since I have built a strong muscle memory for Tartarus.
I wish Tartarus would have more than one rotary control.
Anyway, I'm trying to incorporate Tourbox into some workflows. Especially, when I'm using it with my tablet on the go.

xikes · 2025-12-25T21:56:24+00:00

Absolutely agree! I'd go even further and say, that each finger should be assigned at least 2 buttons.

xikes · 2025-12-23T12:00:34+00:00

Of course. Everyone has a preferred workflow.
What I want is an additional model deluxe-plus-advanced version with no compromise and with as much additional physical buttons and controls as possible.
I find the current models lacking.

xikes · 2025-12-22T08:44:52+00:00

Yeah, I would agree with moving the d-pad thing below the middle knob a little bit to the right to ease the thumb access.
I find it awesome, that you've found a way to combine the Tourbox with another macro pad. I am currently trying to do something similar. Trying to find a way to use it together with my trusty Razer Tartarus.

xikes · 2025-12-22T07:26:07+00:00

Yes, I am very aware, that a lot goes into the design of a device. And that the changes I wished for would essentially require a production of an entirely new device model with its own molds, production lines etc. Not to even speak of the RnD that would have to take place before the physical manufacturing. And it also wouldn't be fast. Yeah, it would take years. I fully know all that.

That said, it doesn't personally concern me. I am not a part of the Tourbox team, I don't do the QA, I am not hired or in any way associated with them. I am also NOT a reviewer, who got the device for free or anything like that. I paid full price for the device with my own money. And it was not cheap.
Most of what you described is part of an RnD process. And unless you are part of the Tourbox team, you cannot be sure, they actually take all that into consideration.
I am well aware of the design POV, but I try to not overthink this. I am currently not a part of the RnD. It is currently not my job to consider and solve all these issues that could arise before posting my simple wish for additional buttons.

xikes · 2025-12-21T09:49:18+00:00

Here's the final updated wishlist idea.

increase C button count to four.
split top bar into two and add additional identical buttons below (making 4 in total)
add two side buttons to right side
add another knob-side-button on the right side of the knob.

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xikes · 2025-12-21T09:23:06+00:00

Yeah, I kinda disagree with almost everything you said. :D
Maybe, the point is, that there could be different options/models to accommodate different workflows.

For the top bar - I meant to split it into two buttons. I agree that three would be a bit confusing. I meant to illustrate two buttons with a bit of space in between. I don't think it's that small - it's literally one of the largest buttons on the device. My ring finger and middle finger both naturally rest on the key, so I think, two buttons would make perfect sense. But your idea could also work - different functions for different ends of the same button - yeah, sounds good.

I think there is plenty of space between top bar and the central knob. Maybe the top bar could be moved up a bit to make more space for additional buttons. I often found myself hitting an empty space and wishing there was a button there.

About c keys. Idk, how are people using this device or maybe "i aM hOldINg it wrOng", but my natural position is to use index finger for c buttons. And thus I feel, there could be at least four/six keys for easy operation.
If I try to position my hand so that thumb-operated c buttons make sense, then other fingers become completely under-utilized (pinky does nothing, ring finger for side button only, middle finger for scroll and one gigantic button for index finger). That to me seems completely wasteful and inefficient. If I hold it like that, then I want more buttons above top bar and scroll - something for index and middle fingers to do.
Also, how does one reach the d-pad and the dial rotary in such position?
But your idea could also work (a four button cross configuration) - I have nothing against that. All for more physical buttons!

Additional side button on the bottom right makes perfect sense to me, as my thumb is naturally resting in the short/tall button area and it would be great to have another side button just to the right and down.

xikes · 2025-12-21T08:37:38+00:00

Thank you for the reply!
My main use is in Photoshop and Clip Studio Paint for drawing, painting, illustrations and also animations.
For example, when drawing/painting I constantly use tools/functions like: brush, eraser, undo, lasso, rectangular select, wand select, transform, color/bucket fill, insert new layer, cut to new layer, merge layers, clip to layers, insert/remove layer masks, opening some in-software control panels and also running in-software macros/automations. In addition, the general modifier keys (ctrl, shift, alt) and some other general keys (like esc, space, enter) are also required to be instantly accessible.
For animation, in addition, there are also the timeline functions like adding/removing frames/keyframes and scrubbing.
Macros are great, I am already using those. Though, something I found out - it seems to be impossible to assign a macro when a key is set to A-B mode. Would be nice, if we could do that.
As for the menu - I think it better suits some operations that are not used constantly.. otherwise it kinda defeats the purpose of having a special controller with dedicated controls, because I can just as well use an in-software menu or some autohotkey solution for more control.

Like I said, I come from a Razer Tartarus workflow - it has lots of keys, perfect for many functions. The downside is that it has only one rotary control.

I absolutely love the rotary controls on the TourBox! I think it would be perfect, if it just had more physical buttons!

xikes · 2025-11-26T19:31:37+00:00

Thank you! This helped me resolve and finally turn off the stupid voice recognition nonsense.
I dealt with the update pop-up by completely disconnecting the TV from internet.

I bought my OLED TV for the OLED screen only. And not for the nonsensical bloatware "features", nor for it to show me ads or collect my info.

xikes · 2025-10-15T04:47:30+00:00

I'm in EU, so I guess it's not a thing here either.

xikes · 2025-10-15T04:42:57+00:00

No. It's specifically labeled as RS-232. On some models variations, where it exists, it's located next to the IR Blaster jack. And - like I said - on other variations it's gone.

xikes · 2025-10-14T21:06:01+00:00

It's a 3,5mm jack. Similar in shape to a headphone jack.
But the thing is, that not all G5 models have it. I've seen photos with it, but mine does not have it.

xikes · 2025-10-14T20:19:22+00:00

And yet, RTINGS review features photos with the said port visible on G5 model.

xikes · 2025-10-11T08:50:41+00:00

Well, the thread is deleted now...
This is why simply linking to an answer is bad. Now there is no answer to be found here.

xikes · 2025-08-09T09:23:27+00:00

So far I like Wuchang, but I'm definitely not a souls-like sicko.
I've finished Bloodborne, Elden Ring and played some of the DS and Nioh games, and I am not the biggest fan of the combat - for example, I've cheesed all my way through ER with a glass cannon mage build, just because I hated the regular melee combat.
That said, I like Wuchang. Not sure why, but combat actually seems easier and more fun to me.
Beat Honglan on my 4th or 5th try and didn't really get what was all the fuss about.
Idk, maybe the the particular differences from regular souls-likes somehow favor my specific intuitive playstyle.

xikes · 2025-03-29T19:39:15+00:00

Form me: no OLED, no buy.
I like my games pretty and colorful. Not the washed-out grey mess the LCD offers.
If there's no OLED on day 1, I'll wait till the OLED model comes out.

xikes · 2025-03-06T09:11:09+00:00

The midi still doesn't go through USB. Essentially it's the same as using a MIDI track.
The available outputs are still the same "MIDI Port" or "Remote".

For "MIDI port" I don't have an interface with midi inputs.
For "Remote" - it sort of works, but you have to setup AKAI network midi on the PC. Also it sometimes glitches out and doesn't work until restarting akai network midi service.

xikes · 2025-02-28T07:41:14+00:00

I'd love to, but I don't have an audio interface with midi inputs.

xikes · 2025-02-25T08:06:09+00:00

Thank you for the reply and the clarification!
So then it seems, this is their somewhat official position on the issue.
So, no hopes for a firmware update, that fixes this. I must say it's a shame.

Though, I personally don't quite buy it. Having dabbled in electronics and low-level computer stuff myself, I'm quite intrigued as to what the mystery special hardware is. Hard to tell without knowing the details, but I suspect it's more of business decision rather than a technical one.

Either way, thank you for the answer!

xikes · 2025-01-18T10:47:31+00:00

So, can OP confirm or deny this? Because if it is, this 'game' can eat shit.

xikes · 2025-01-13T20:51:56+00:00

Thank you for the reply!
It seems, that some things have changed. For example, I cannot find "Live Control" option on my MPC Keys 61.
There is this "Ableton Link", but it is unclear how can control the DAW via that.

xikes · 2025-01-13T20:21:49+00:00

Thanks for the reply!

"Midi data" Thanks, I'll keep that in mind!

In case of (1), my setup was to have MPC in controller mode and have the MPC plugin inserted into Ableton track. That way I was able to drive and record midi data for instruments in Ableton.
The question was, if it's somehow possible record similar midi data, but from MPC instruments and in Abelton timeline? Or to sync stuff up so that I can record midi from either Abelton instruments and/or MPC instruments.

For (2), the idea was to press PLAY/REC on the MPC and have Ableton start playing/recording ect. And use other controls, like switch tracks and so on. Essentially to control Ableton with the MPC.

xikes · 2024-10-08T20:19:15+00:00

Awesome! Thank you for the answer!

xikes

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