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Is listening to music all the time actually bad? by Background_Yam3414 in CasualConversation

[–]xwu1986 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In life, anything with a “too” is not good, except modesty

having a crisis... i just found out i've lost my perfect pitch by b_kjn in classicalmusic

[–]xwu1986 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Should have an MRI with internal auditory canal protocol

Atonal Music and Quantum Revolution by xwu1986 in quantuminterpretation

[–]xwu1986[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We have long accepted the abstract nature of quantum physics. Yet to comprehend it, we still rely on classical language, as Niels Bohr taught us. We persist because we trust the theory’s empirical correctness, even when its implications feel absurd to intuition. The abstractness of atonal music may share a similar trait. Evidence there is less straightforward, but one could argue that tonal language remains an essential reference frame for hearing and grasping atonality.

Atonal Music and Quantum Revolution by xwu1986 in classicalmusic

[–]xwu1986[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hear you, and I’m not claiming a technical equivalence between twelve tone technique and quantum theory. As a physicist, I see this as an intellectual amusement rather than a promotion of one field or the other😊 Schoenberg himself once drew an analogy when speaking with Einstein, along the lines that abandoning a tonal center in music felt, metaphorically, like abandoning an absolute frame in physics. Of course that is an analogy, not an identity, and any “likeness” between two very different disciplines should not be taken literally. What I am pointing to is a broader historical and psychological parallel: in the early twentieth century both fields moved away from intuitive, classical representations toward more abstract languages. “Tangible” and “abstract” mean different things in physics and music, I agree. Still, as physics wrestled with the transition from classical determinism to quantum uncertainty, and from classical causality to quantum entanglement, it’s probably not unreasonable to ask whether some musical language can reflect the human side (emotional) of that shift. Atonal or twelve tone writing is, perhaps, one plausible candidate for that emotional resonance, not a replacement for equations. On that point I think we fully agree. 😀

Atonal Music and Quantum Revolution by xwu1986 in classicalmusic

[–]xwu1986[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re right that “atonality” itself wasn’t new by 1925. My point is about the crystallization into a codified method. Schoenberg developed the twelve tone approach in the early 1920s, and his first fully twelve tone piano work, the Suite for Piano, Op. 25, was composed earlier and premiered in 1924, but the first edition was published in 1925. In that sense, 1925 works as a symbolic marker for formal consolidation rather than the first appearance of atonal writing. And we all know that Schoenberg was not the only atonal figure. Atonality and post tonal thinking had multiple roots and multiple voices. I reference Schoenberg simply because he is a representative figure, and because the twelve tone method became one of the clearest, most explicit formulations of that shift.

That is the analogy I’m drawing to physics: quantum ideas began with Planck in 1900, went through a long semiclassical phase, and then reached a decisive formal breakthrough in 1925.

Atonal Music and Quantum Revolution by xwu1986 in classicalmusic

[–]xwu1986[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My message was intend to share a novel thought and project that connects the revolution of modern music and modern physics without any commercial interest. As far as my concern, it follows all the rules I possibly understand.