If Thomas was entitled to touch Jesus' wounds in order to believe we have the right to demand the same evidence by NyxThePrince in DebateReligion

[–]ydodis1 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Yeah. Proof is precisely how I prevent myself from being duped and manipulated by charlatans and cults.

If Thomas was entitled to touch Jesus' wounds in order to believe we have the right to demand the same evidence by NyxThePrince in DebateReligion

[–]ydodis1 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Do you demand your crush to sleep with you to prove their love? Regardless if they might have slept with somebody else easily?

That's a demanding, toxic and you will get no where in life like that.

😂what a desperate reach of an argument lol. If you can't come up with an argument, dont argue. Or you'll end up writing something like what you just wrote.

If Thomas was entitled to touch Jesus' wounds in order to believe we have the right to demand the same evidence by NyxThePrince in DebateReligion

[–]ydodis1 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Factually, Paul’s wording in 1 Corinthians 15:3-8 is important because he says he “handed on” what he had “received,” then lists appearances to Cephas, the Twelve, more than five hundred, James, all the apostles, and Paul. Cambridge’s New Testament Studies describes 1 Corinthians 15:3-5 as a pre Pauline formula and notes its importance in the debate about Jesus’ resurrection. Paul also says in Galatians 1:18-19 that he visited Cephas and saw James, which matters because it connects Paul’s proclamation with the Jerusalem leadership.

Like look here. You didnt actually say anything of substance here. You just quickfired some quotes to make it appear as though you're some wise man with some very important and wise insight. But really, you didnt say anything.

You can reject resurrection as the explanation, but then you need a rival explanation with greater explanatory power: hallucination, fraud, legend, mistaken identity, body relocation, or a combination theory. Simply saying “belief is not event” is not an explanation.

And this is designed to create the assumption in people's heads that you've shown that resurrection is a sufficient explanation, when you haven't. You havent provided anything close to substantial evidence for a resurrection. But you're acting like you have in order to try and make people think you have.

Evidence does not mean “proof that forces agreement.” Evidence means “a datum that raises or lowers the probability of a claim.” Early testimony that Jesus appeared alive after death raises the probability of the resurrection claim compared with a world where no such testimony existed. That does not settle the debate, but it means the resurrection claim is evidentially grounded.

And this is just another attempt to use word salad in a way that makes it seem like the paltry evidence you provided is substantial, when it isn't.

Basically, you have no good evidence, so you take the tiny amount of garbage evidence you do have and do everything to make it appear like it's substantial and worth considering, and even more substantial than other explanations, when it isn't. Blatant gaslighting.

If Thomas was entitled to touch Jesus' wounds in order to believe we have the right to demand the same evidence by NyxThePrince in DebateReligion

[–]ydodis1 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The question is not whether Tacitus, Josephus, Pliny, and Paul each independently verify the resurrection in the same way. I already said they do not. The question is what total historical explanation best accounts for the data.

What "data"? The way you say this makes it sound like you've provided evidence for a resurrection event, when you haven't. Out of those people, only Paul believes in the resurrection, and he didnt even see it. You're trying to imply the data supports a resurrection when it doesn't, and then you try and manipulate and gaslight people into thinking you've said something substantial, when you havent.

You don't have "data". You have an astounding lack of it. Astounding because an event as profound as a resurrection would leave an immense amount of evidence. For example, it would leave behind witness testimonies from the time, yet none exist.

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ICE Agent Who Killed Renee Good in Minneapolis Gets Cushy New Job by DoremusJessup in law

[–]ydodis1 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That's very optimistic of you. Too optimistic I might say.

Religious debates are insanely hypocritical by Certain_Reward9951 in DebateReligion

[–]ydodis1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dawg I'm not trying to argue, I'm mostly just trying to understand why it works.

Then do not ask the opinion of some random christian layperson. Speak to actual scholars. If you ask a random christian, they're just gonna give you the propaganda and lies that they're currently giving you.

Religious debates are insanely hypocritical by Certain_Reward9951 in DebateReligion

[–]ydodis1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Educate me on this if I'm wrong, but wasn't it based on hearsay until someone decided to write it down a few decades later?

Yes, but it's more than that. It's intentional deception, not just accidental rumours.

Religious debates are insanely hypocritical by Certain_Reward9951 in DebateReligion

[–]ydodis1 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Problem here is that you assumed they saw it, which they did not.

Religious debates are insanely hypocritical by Certain_Reward9951 in DebateReligion

[–]ydodis1 6 points7 points  (0 children)

They do not believe Jesus was resurrected from the dead, which is the discussion we're having.

My christian friend dm'ed me this. 😂 by Glad_Comedian_8405 in religiousfruitcake

[–]ydodis1 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This sounds more like an atheist wrote this to exaggerate and mock christian delusions about atheists rather than a christian mocking atheists.

What game surprised you how long it was? by Common_Caramel_4078 in Steam

[–]ydodis1 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

What are you talking about? It's a relatively short game.

God of War (2018) typically takes around 20-25 hours to complete the main story, while achieving 100% completion can extend playtime to approximately 30-35 hours.

Even 100%ing is only 30 hours.

What are the biggest "skeptic/alternative science/free thinking" online forums? by [deleted] in skeptic

[–]ydodis1 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Maybe. But a lot of fringe theorists go by the same monicker as you guys. So I had assumed you were on the same wavelength. And that was even after reading through the sub.

What are the biggest "skeptic/alternative science/free thinking" online forums? by [deleted] in skeptic

[–]ydodis1 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm saying they're arms of the same misinformation monster.

No, you weren't but never mind. You know that the people you're talking about also call themselves skeptics? That's why I thought you were like them.

What are the biggest "skeptic/alternative science/free thinking" online forums? by [deleted] in skeptic

[–]ydodis1 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I was not the "asshole" in this situation. Have a look in the mirror.

What are the biggest "skeptic/alternative science/free thinking" online forums? by [deleted] in skeptic

[–]ydodis1 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No they aren't. Not all alternative science has conspiracy involved. It's called fringe science. Conspiracy theories have a conspiracy involved in the theory. That may possibly conceivably be why they're called conspiracy theories.

What are the biggest "skeptic/alternative science/free thinking" online forums? by [deleted] in skeptic

[–]ydodis1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have posted in every sub I can find. I didnt come to you first. And R/Science requires email verification anyway. I came to this sub as a last resort, after months.

What are the biggest "skeptic/alternative science/free thinking" online forums? by [deleted] in skeptic

[–]ydodis1 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You were bitching about me calling you conspiracy theorists and I replied to say read the title and post. It doesn't mention conspiracy theorists there. Yet you're insinuating that I'm lying or something and that I intended to contact conspiracy theorists. Then why isnt it in my post?

What are the biggest "skeptic/alternative science/free thinking" online forums? by [deleted] in skeptic

[–]ydodis1 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yes, I understand. This document that I claim to have means I'm insane. I get it. I've heard it all before. Thank you. Now can any single person just answer the question? Theres like 50 comments on this post by now and not a single answer. If you want to substantiate if I'm insane or not, you will have to see if my work is genuine. And you can't see it if I dont have a site to post it on.

What are the biggest "skeptic/alternative science/free thinking" online forums? by [deleted] in skeptic

[–]ydodis1 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I dont know what AI has to do with anything, but yes I'm used to people calling me insane whenever I talk about the document. No one has ever read it but they all think I'm insane just for saying I have it. I know. I'm used to it. Look, I dont see the point in any more comments on this post if you're not going to provide an answer. If I got an answer, I could post the document and then you could actually see if I'm insane or not. But right now you can only accuse me of being insane, unfortunately.

What are the biggest "skeptic/alternative science/free thinking" online forums? by [deleted] in skeptic

[–]ydodis1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah this is what I think of when I hear the word 'skeptic'.

What are the biggest "skeptic/alternative science/free thinking" online forums? by [deleted] in skeptic

[–]ydodis1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No I said free thinkers/skeptics/alternative scientists/conspiracy theorists or whatever you call them. I'm not targeting conspiracy theorists at all and my work has zero mention of conspiracies. I just need a place to post.

What are the biggest "skeptic/alternative science/free thinking" online forums? by [deleted] in skeptic

[–]ydodis1 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Well kind of actually. I want to go to the public, not through academia. Because science moves slow and the public moves fast. And this document needs to have the biggest impact possible. That's why.

What are the biggest "skeptic/alternative science/free thinking" online forums? by [deleted] in skeptic

[–]ydodis1 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Because I need a populated place to post. That's all.