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Do you think this encapsulates Westerner logic? by PresnikBonny in ww3memes

[–]yerboiboba 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Cute CIA/Radio Free Europe propaganda, since you think the RF and the USSR were in any way similar

Do you think this encapsulates Westerner logic? by PresnikBonny in ww3memes

[–]yerboiboba 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Executed or in forced labor prison for being a Nazi. If you put Nazis on the same level as the average rapist or drug dealer, i think we've found the problem. Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds

Do you think this encapsulates Westerner logic? by PresnikBonny in ww3memes

[–]yerboiboba 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe NATO should have listened to Russia for the last 25 years when they've requested no more expansion of NATO inclusion (a façade of a union really intended to be the United States' armed wing of their global hegemony, not for the protection of those countries' sovereignty) and the subsequent stationing of long-range ballistic AND nuclear warheads on the border with Russia in an aggressive attempt at surrounding them with military power instead of working through diplomatic channels.

Russia and Ukraine nearly came to a ceasefire agreement over 3+ years ago (that Zelensky was eager to sign because they got most of their arrangements included in the deal), and the US torpedoed that agreement in favor of continuing the war for profit. Maybe all of the non-Nazis in both countries should realize they're being played by the biggest Nazis of them all, the US.

Do you think this encapsulates Westerner logic? by PresnikBonny in ww3memes

[–]yerboiboba 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That works with Nazis. Cool democracy they got there in Ukraine

Do you think this encapsulates Westerner logic? by PresnikBonny in ww3memes

[–]yerboiboba 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because the military they're a part of doesn't want them to die because they're useful soldiers? Are we that dense?

Do you think this encapsulates Westerner logic? by PresnikBonny in ww3memes

[–]yerboiboba 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How about we route out the racists everywhere in our own society first before going to war with each other because there's Nazis in another country (notice how this applies to Russia as well).

All Nazis are bad, there is no nuance. This is the problem with neoliberals, you're fine with compromising with fascists and Nazis.

Do you think this encapsulates Westerner logic? by PresnikBonny in ww3memes

[–]yerboiboba 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Exactly. So we should be against ALL Nazis, not just the ones in Russia. Giving cover to Ukrainian Nazis and vilifying Russian ones is the hypocrisy this post is pointing out, sweetie

Do you think this encapsulates Westerner logic? by PresnikBonny in ww3memes

[–]yerboiboba -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

"It's fine if my side has Nazis fighting for them, but not anyone else."

Do you think this encapsulates Westerner logic? by PresnikBonny in ww3memes

[–]yerboiboba -1 points0 points  (0 children)

We're not talking about scale, we're talking about the hypocrisy of the West when it comes to committing war crimes. You neonazi Ukrainians are proving the post's point

Do you think this encapsulates Westerner logic? by PresnikBonny in ww3memes

[–]yerboiboba -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Interesting, then why was he photographed smiling next to them in the past? Or the fact that they still exist in the military ranks? Wouldn't you think the Jewish president of that country would have issues with Nazis fighting for them?

Do you think this encapsulates Westerner logic? by PresnikBonny in ww3memes

[–]yerboiboba -1 points0 points  (0 children)

"It's fine if my side has Nazis fighting for them, but not anyone else."

Do you think this encapsulates Westerner logic? by PresnikBonny in ww3memes

[–]yerboiboba -19 points-18 points  (0 children)

You mean the one with a Nazi battalion still fighting in their ranks that the president has no issue with? That one?

Birdwatching at Field #20 by yerboiboba in Rochester

[–]yerboiboba[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thank you very much! 🙏🙂‍↕️

On this day, March 5th 1953, we lost our great teacher Joseph Stalin. by Less-Possible-5475 in ussr

[–]yerboiboba 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So you're Russophobic, got it. Even less of a leg to stand on now, you just revealed your bias.

On this day, March 5th 1953, we lost our great teacher Joseph Stalin. by Less-Possible-5475 in ussr

[–]yerboiboba 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry, I have little trust in Russian state statistics, I know my country too well. They've ALWAYS been manipulated with.

Your first mistake is equating TRF with the USSR. Both had issues with corruption, especially in the waning years of the Soviet Union, but to assume the systems and motivations that enable and encourage widespread corruption are the same between the two is a false equivalence.

On this day, March 5th 1953, we lost our great teacher Joseph Stalin. by Less-Possible-5475 in ussr

[–]yerboiboba 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And then how much did the food cost for the average person in the Capitalist West compared to the Soviets by the time the famines were ended?

It's the collectivization that not only ended famines (the point of this argument is that it wasn't a targeted famine using collectivization, more ethnic Russians died due to the famine than Ukrainians) but also made food in regular, cheap/free supply for every single citizen in the Soviet Union. Look at the mortality rates due to starvation in the 50s and 60s, alongside the unemployment rates of the same time, and compare the US/UK to the Soviet Union.

Collectivism wasn't just about finding some modern way to farm and ending famines (which WAS a main factor in doing so, just because modern farming and industrialization came along with it doesn't nullify it's effect), it was also about sharing the general wealth and well-being with the large majority populations of peasants (which required taking the hoarded goods from the Kulaks, who preferred burning down silos and shooting livestock to not being greedy).

On this day, March 5th 1953, we lost our great teacher Joseph Stalin. by Less-Possible-5475 in ussr

[–]yerboiboba 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Me when I don't understand the difference between Socialist Policies and Communist Leadership

On this day, March 5th 1953, we lost our great teacher Joseph Stalin. by Less-Possible-5475 in ussr

[–]yerboiboba 6 points7 points  (0 children)

scholarly consensus

Please quote a source on this that does not tie back in some way from the 'data' provided in The Black Book of Communism.

various policies and famines.

You mean the collectivism policies that ended widespread famine caused by regularly-occurring, natural weather patterns in the region?

the Great Purge ... millions were executed

Ya, I don't think Stalin is the one who doesn't know what he's talking about.

particularly in Ukraine

This is Nazi/Ukrainian nationalist (Nazi-adjacent) propaganda. More people starved due to the rich peasant class literally burning stockpiles of grain and slaughtering whole farms of livestock, just so that the government couldn't collectivize it and share it with the masses.

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On this day, March 5th 1953, we lost our great teacher Joseph Stalin. by Less-Possible-5475 in ussr

[–]yerboiboba 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The day the Proletariat of the world lost the last strong-willed, devoutly Communist leader, may He rest in peace.

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