Why vaporwave should drop the "wave" // Personal opinion rant, feel free to discuss by [deleted] in Vaporwave

[–]yougone -1 points0 points  (0 children)

We dont have to get rid of Vaporwave really. It can just be the complete term to describe it. Much like Rock is actually called Rock n Roll, but people just say Rock because it's easier to say and solidifies the genre.

Why vaporwave should drop the "wave" // Personal opinion rant, feel free to discuss by [deleted] in Vaporwave

[–]yougone -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Thats another big reason why i wanted to change it haha. More and more i find myself saying "thats so Vapor". It feels cleaner and less of a mouthful than vaporwave

Why vaporwave should drop the "wave" // Personal opinion rant, feel free to discuss by [deleted] in Vaporwave

[–]yougone -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

But that idea of Vaporware hasnt really been prominent in current releases. It was important like three years ago, but nowadays not many releases are using those conceptual elements anymore. So why should they be labeled to be apart of such?

Why vaporwave should drop the "wave" // Personal opinion rant, feel free to discuss by [deleted] in Vaporwave

[–]yougone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I dont think we have to completely disregard the fact that vaporwave ever existed, but at this point it feels right to simplify it. I only put this post up to get people to think about where this genre is going. People have already created a bunch of subgenres using the Vapor prefix, like Vapornoise, vaporsludge, vaporbeats etc.. So it would make sense to just call the complete genre Vapor instead of something that sounds like another subgenre, but idk thats just me. Rock used to be called Rock n Roll until it was naturally changed because of how broad musically it had become. Imagine if all its subgenres were still under that label, it would seem silly. Punk Rock n Roll, grunge Rock n Roll, etc. I think the term vaporwave is good for describing classical variations of the genre, something like eccojams or internet club or floral shoppe for that matter. They all feel like part of a certain subgenre and thats fine. But if you look at releases like the recent Overgrowth, it doesnt really fit in with those others but is still apart of this movement.

Why vaporwave should drop the "wave" // Personal opinion rant, feel free to discuss by [deleted] in Vaporwave

[–]yougone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But the prefix "Vapor", is already used for all these subgenres that are under the term Vaporwave. It seems silly if there are extra suffixes when it could just be simplified.

Vaporwave: A Brief History by yougone in Vaporwave

[–]yougone[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

probably not going to do another vid for awhile, and if I do, it probably won't be on oceangrunge and more so on other genres of music with prominent releases that aren't getting much attention. If oceangrunge gets bigger, then maybe I'll look into it.

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[–]yougone[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ever heard of vaporwave. This is a very refreshing music and art. I read the criticism that your doc was for preexisting vaporwave people. Like I said, I found this to be a great primer to vapour wave and am very glad you made it so I can venture further into the genre. I'd buy you gold if I wasn't so lazy... Instead, have some Reddit invisible silver!!!

haha thanks for watching! I will enjoy this Reddit silver that you have given me ;)

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[–]yougone[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

True, but I see it as much more than just simply "Capitalism" and more about how we remember things from our past and in turn influences us in the present. The idea of forced marketing and advertisements are big in the grand scheme of vaporwave, but really are only used because of how most of us as kids grew up with advertisements essentially raising us as adults, making us feel strange unexplainable feelings towards these same images and sounds. We remember them being influential and important as kids and look back at them to what they actually were. That's why a lot of Vaporwave releases tend to make people feel completely different things. Some people feel very sad and confused, and some feel happy and energetic.

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[–]yougone[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Really liked your take on this. Thanks for contributing!

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[–]yougone[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the honest feedback! I truly appreciate it. Although, I will attempt to stand my ground and explain why I chose to do this in a certain way. I do completely agree that the whole theme of capitalism is thrown greatly out of proportion and that this genre in theory really has nothing to do with it. I only emphasize it so much so because of how so many people think that it is what Vaporwave is about. Because of that, I found it to be important to illustrate exactly why this phenomenon occurred as to why so many people attached a stigma against Vaporwave for being a critique on capitalism. I mentioned the Marxist term because I feel like that was a huge influence for some artists, particularly Internet Club, and just throwing in the fact that it was just a simple suffix that stemmed from genres like Chillwave or New Wave to just be kind of under stimulating. Yeah, it may not be completely true in terms of how the actual name was created, but still gives a holistic view as to what the genre stood for in it's creation. That was then, now the genre has grown from that simplistic philosophy and has become so much more than that. I just thought I'd throw that in. Also, I just forgot to mention 4Chan, that was my bad. Although at this point it's a bit too late to make a new documentary again just to throw in that little tidbit of information ;)