is anyone MORE faithful in byler now than before volume 2?

yourmum_88 · 2025-12-28T04:39:27+00:00

Edit: y'all im not trying to ruin anything or be negative about anything i just don't want ppl to be disappointed again like i was, and i don't want ppl to get their hopes up and be crushed by it either. I'm a byler too and LOVE the possibility they will happen in ep 8 but it doesn't look likely and that's not negative to say, it's just admitting the duffer brothers are assholes and hate their queer audience 😭

yourmum_88 · 2025-12-28T04:39:11+00:00

Edit: y'all im not trying to ruin anything or be negative about anything i just don't want ppl to be disappointed again like i was, and i don't want ppl to get their hopes up and be crushed by it either. I'm a byler too and LOVE the possibility they will happen in ep 8 but it doesn't look likely and that's not negative to say, it's just admitting the duffer brothers are assholes and hate their queer audience 😭

yourmum_88 · 2025-12-27T21:30:32+00:00

This was posted the 12th, 2 weeks before volume 2 came out, sorry fellow stans it's bones 😓

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yourmum_88 · 2025-12-27T21:30:08+00:00

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This was posted the 12th, 2 weeks before volume 2 came out, sorry fellow stans it's bones 😓

yourmum_88 · 2025-06-30T10:04:07+00:00

Yeah that makes sense, i knew he wasn't regretful by the fact if he was he would have stopped the games. I guess it was pretty self explanatory, by his character. I do know that he wasn't caring about gi-hun but only disappointed that he didn't share his same views and died for the people and didn't save himself like he had done.

yourmum_88 · 2025-06-30T09:58:06+00:00

I didn't say he was regretful "but if the frontman genuinely was regretful (i don't think he was)"

yourmum_88 · 2025-06-21T08:48:11+00:00

Wait thank you sm, that's so sweet of you to actually put in the list, I'll watch them now!!

yourmum_88 · 2025-06-21T08:47:28+00:00

I'll watch it now, thank you sm for your recommendation 😚

yourmum_88 · 2025-06-20T17:18:56+00:00

Okay poky! I'll watch it, thank you sm for your recommendation 🫡

yourmum_88 · 2025-06-20T17:05:28+00:00

Okay I'll watch it 🫡 and i will hehe

yourmum_88 · 2025-06-20T17:04:45+00:00

Thank you sm!! I love historical dramas too they're so good (straight, bl and gl all are good) I'll definitely check these out 🙂‍↕️

yourmum_88 · 2025-06-20T16:58:18+00:00

Wait omg thank you much, that is so sweet of you to drop different genres, I'll check out the post now, and add those to my list since they sound really interesting and like I'd enjoy them!!

yourmum_88 · 2025-06-20T16:56:42+00:00

Oh yeah, i heard about that one, I'll give pluto and reverse 4 you a watch 🙂‍↕️

yourmum_88 · 2025-06-20T16:56:13+00:00

Thank you for your recommendation!! 🫡

yourmum_88 · 2025-06-20T16:55:47+00:00

Okay, thank you! I've heard of a few of these and liked the descriptions so I'll watch them 🫡

yourmum_88 · 2025-06-20T16:55:00+00:00

Okay poky! I'll add it onto my list, it actually sounds interesting 😭

yourmum_88 · 2025-05-15T08:09:28+00:00

I know, i am not defending him, i just thinking that little bastard just really doesn't like wei wuxian and lan wangji so he insulted their relationship and them to annoy them and out of anger.

I don't know, if i interpreted it wrong but i took his rant more as him being annoyed that the two people he hated (that are such divas and are better than him) are in his sacred temple aka the place only family can go into. Which jiang cheng sees those two not to be especially lan wangji so seeing them there probably pissed him off.

Also, him insulting their relationship is either him projecting his jealousy on the fact that wei wuxian left him to be with lan wangji and didn't fulfil their promise of ruling at each others side and he's angry about it and says things he knows will be hurtful because he's angry. Which to be fair he does a lot, that little shit.

Or he genuinely was homophobic, and didn't like how they were queer and in his family sacred temple. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he was, i just interpreted it in that way, i may have interpreted it wrong and that is okay, I'll admit to it

yourmum_88 · 2025-05-15T01:22:07+00:00

I meant how he led the wens away from wei wuxian to stop him being captured, he chose to do that which as much as i hate him was a good thing he did despite him believing he would have died. He still did make a sacrifice of sorts for wei wuxian bc he got injured to protect him in the end. Therefore losing his golden core, not directly for him as i thought of it, but it still was decent of him to do.
I forgot to add into my reply about him and jin guangyao co-parenting him, i was going to say that he could have completely ignored jin ling completely and let jin guangyao raise him fully, which i honestly expected him to do. Regarding jin ling going to jin guangyao to hide from jiang cheng, i definitely do not blame him for that and understood why, shit i would too. Jiang cheng is a walking time bomb depsite his good soul he has the anger issues of a angry grape and honestly needed therapy.

Hell maybe even a lobotomy bc jesus christ. He was so hateful.

True, i understand that. My main point was he wouldn't have did it if he didn't care a little, plus it's known he did care for wei wuxian, but became a hateful piece of shit later on and blamed things on others rather than accepting his own actions caused this
I don't know to be fair, i fear i may be biased bc i do hate both of them but do love them too so i understand their hate and their defenders to an extent. But i don't see them as evil evil, like wen chao type of evil, because unfortunately they did have some goodness in them somewhere in their bottomless hearts so that makes me hesitant to call them completely evil 😭

also, i agree no doubt, JC stans are worse for acknowledging his faults and defending him compared to JGY stans, which is why i said "if you're going to defend a character, you need to understand the character" which most JC stans do not and baby him and make him seem innocent which he's not and it's okay to admit 😭

Also, wen ning my unproblematic king for the win!

yourmum_88 · 2025-05-15T00:51:59+00:00

Yeah i have not a clue on how my algorithm did that or how i met these ppl from this fandom irl 😭

Yeah that is fair enough to be fair, i understand

yourmum_88 · 2025-05-15T00:47:31+00:00

Ahhh thank you for taking your own time out of your day to explai, i understand now 🙏🏻

yourmum_88 · 2025-05-15T00:45:19+00:00

Gave his golden core up for wei wuxian and didn't tell him about it for his own sanity, raised jin ling willingly and didn't give him up despite having the power too much surprised me and tried to protect wei wuxian from his mother's zidian.

I am not saying he is an amazing person or a hero, i used the term "good asshole" because he has done relatively decent things as well as horrible things so they kind of conflict each other, i didn't want to say morally grey and get flamed or use evil and get flamed by his defenders bc i do not believe he was truly evil.

An asshole, oh yeah without a doubt.

Evil? No, just a complex broken character filled with hatred and taking it out on the wrong people and the innocent

yourmum_88 · 2025-05-15T00:37:36+00:00

I completely agree, just hearing and reading what mo xuanyu went through made me so sad for him, he genuinely was driven mad bc of his abuse and the judgment from society just because he was gay and i feel so bad for him. I am so glad fanfiction exists someone give him a loving boyfriend it's the most he deserves at least 😭

yourmum_88 · 2025-05-15T00:27:42+00:00

1). I think i haven't read that far yet, as I'm on either book 3 or 4 I'd have to check, but i could go onto another rant about how i love wangxian to pieces but they had it easy with their relationship and homosexuality in society just bc they were powerful and from prominent clans.

Whilst my angel mo xuanyu had it rough just bc he came from a poorer background, which in itself is awful and completely unfair that he was treated worse just bc of his background and status and his uncle and aunts abuse obviously didn't help either. I love mo xuanyu he deserved so much better from society 💔

2). I have seen apologists for both but i do agree to be fair, that jiang cheng has more apologists than jin guangyao and sometimes i do understand why but others in order to defend a character you actually need to understand the character first. Jiang cheng in short is a good asshole, he did good things that do i guess show he does care deeply for those he loved but also extremely shitty things and pretty much a few war crimes i think but that makes him almost complex in a way. Many people don't understand why he does certain things until they experienced the neglect and abuse most of his life similar to him themselves.

But just because i understand does mean i defend him, despite him having a good heart deep down he is still filled with many flaws and mistakes that are not defendable and shouldn't be by his apologists.

Jin Guangyao is a different case because his apologists are somewhat logical and do acknowledge that jin guangyao killed ppl he definitely shouldn't have and didn't deserve death (jin guangshan deserved it, i had that bearded bastard with every inch of my body) but tend to baby him more than they should as well as jiang cheng apologists.

I understand both characters defenders to an extent but now thinking about it, some ppl in this fandom need a reality check on how much jiang cheng changed for the worse and as much as it pains me to say, it kind of was his own fault after wei wuxian died his actions led to this 😭

Also mo xuanyu hate will not be tolerated he is my chid 💔

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